Sorry but thats bullsh*t, if the block halving changed the price would crumble.
Already replied to that. It is a subjective prediction of how "the bitcoiners" would behave. My view of "the bitcoiners" and their motivations is obviously very different from yours. You suggest that the miners could agree on it and everyone who pays their bills (the buyers) would just be like ah okay. Not gonna happen.
Today, the new investors (those who buy or earn coins and hold them for a while) are quite happily paying 900'000 $/day to the miners, plus who-knows-how-much to the earlier investors who are selling; money that will never come back to the system. The new investors cannot be entirely conscious of that. So, if the halving were to be postponed, they would probably not take notice, and continue pouring in the same daily amounts, either way. By the way, don't expect the price to immediately double when the next halving happens. The miners will put 1800 fewer coins per day on the markets, but many earlier investors will start selling their coins once the price rises a little. In other words, there is lots of hidden liquidity in the old hoards, that will readily absorb the 450'000 k$/day that the miners will stop receiving. That's all on the pretence that there will be 21 million coins. I think your living on cloud cuckoo if you think that everyone would just be okay with a change to the amount of coins or the date of the halving. I'd sell mine immediately as would thousands and thousands of others. Bitcoin has no value if it becomes inflationary. New investors are not putting that much money into the system per day. Not all coins are sold and no they would not be happy to continue to once the word is out that bitcoin is broken which it would. Your arguments are valid, and you convey them in a way that makes it difficult to prove right or wrong but I can say with all confidence that a change to the amount of coins or when the halving takes place will destroy Bitcoin and thus the incomes of the people who you suggest would be happy to change it. |
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong but am I seriously seeing someone attempting to say we should try and get unclaimed coins back from poloniex! Is that a joke!
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You speak in what if's with little knowledge of the subject or that mater what "miners" want. No alts for starters... A larger block size would solve transaction limits as was the original intent.
Did you read the posts? Adam wrote that it was so difficult to get consensus on even trivial changes like increasing block size, imagine on postponing the halving. I just pointed out that the miners will have no monetary gain with larger blocks, but would have a huge one with the postponement. Last time I checked, the top 4-6 miners had more than 51% and were all in China. Do we know what they may want? Since that "attack" would not be risk free, the top miners will not want to risk it unless they have much more than 51%. Also, if the price more than doubles before that, say 800 $/BTC by early 2016, they would probably regain a comfortable profit margin and may be happy with it. But with the price at 800 $/BTC, on the other hand, postponing the halving would give them ~500 M$ of extra revenue per year... Sorry but thats bullsh*t, if the block halving changed the price would crumble. So they would have no monetary gain at all. It makes no economical sense, you suggest that the miners could agree on it and everyone who pays their bills (the buyers) would just be like ah okay. Not gonna happen. Edit: Lets also not forget that 51% is where it becomes possible, its still a hard thing to do and to pull off succesfully would likely require much more than that. |
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I'm not trying to spread FUD, but it seems that someone is trying to deceive buyers at bittrex, it is obvious that the market here is beeing manipulated since the first day, Some players are changing the depth of the sales book and also dumping or buying slowly I do not know what is happening ... This coin has huge potential and all looks well until now. I'm out for now, depending on the news tomorrow I'll be buying a bag of crave. Right now its too much risk to keep a bag of crave. Good Luck.  im in but am nervous the way its being played. large wallets are decreasing which putting me off, but i really dont wanna sell my buys i bought at 38k. i could easily sell into the orders but will risk hopefullt i sell in time if it goes south To the top poster You're just describing how a market works. God forbid someone should remove a sales order or even set one in the hope of buying cheaper coins. Its a free market. Its a thin ask side as nobody really wants to sell. Why wouldn't I add to the sale side to make it look stronger so that I can buy the amount of coins I want? To the second poster, why is it a bad thing that the top wallets are distributing? Being distributed wider is a good thing not a bad and aids in the prevention of what you're s worried about... you wouldnt really expect top holders to b selling now without news round the corner. distribution is ok but were here to make money but those large holders are just throwing money away if it all goes well otherwise they took right steps if it all goes pear shaped. Why not? If they got their coins much cheaper or they want to diversify abit? Plus what makes you say they are selling? If your talking about trex wallets then they could be withdrawing and if your talking about the richlist people may want to hide how big their wallet is. I know I was in the top ten and I no longer am due to deciding to split my coins up over a few different addresses. |
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I'm not trying to spread FUD, but it seems that someone is trying to deceive buyers at bittrex, it is obvious that the market here is beeing manipulated since the first day, Some players are changing the depth of the sales book and also dumping or buying slowly I do not know what is happening ... This coin has huge potential and all looks well until now. I'm out for now, depending on the news tomorrow I'll be buying a bag of crave. Right now its too much risk to keep a bag of crave. Good Luck. im in but am nervous the way its being played. large wallets are decreasing which putting me off, but i really dont wanna sell my buys i bought at 38k. i could easily sell into the orders but will risk hopefullt i sell in time if it goes south To the top poster You're just describing how a market works. God forbid someone should remove a sales order or even set one in the hope of buying cheaper coins. Its a free market. Its a thin ask side as nobody really wants to sell. Why wouldn't I add to the sale side to make it look stronger so that I can buy the amount of coins I want? To the second poster, why is it a bad thing that the top wallets are distributing? Being distributed wider is a good thing not a bad and aids in the prevention of what you're s worried about... |
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Is launch at 9 or 10PM GMT?
Because the countdown on supernova indicates 3 hours to launch and it's 7 PM atm.
9:00 PM Tuesday, Greenwich Mean Time (GMT) is 11:00 PM Tuesday, in Germany 9:00 PM Tuesday, Greenwich Mean Time (GMT) is 5:00 PM Tuesday, Eastern Time (ET) 9:00 PM Tuesday, Greenwich Mean Time (GMT) is 2:00 PM Tuesday, Pacific Time (PT) 9:00 PM Tuesday, Greenwich Mean Time (GMT) is 5:00 AM Wednesday, in China I'm on GMT actually. Don't even need any conversions lol. Just the countdown on the suprnova pool is confusing; it's counting down till 22 GMT. It is counting down to 9 pm gmt as stated directly IN the Countdown... It's 20:19 atm (I'm on GMT). And it says 1h 41m left. Its because of daylight savings. The uk is currently GMT +1 |
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Course its obvious, what do you think the rolling eyes were for... Any idiot who didnt get it and just dumped at 0.00029 just LOL.
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I guess sarcasm is lost on some people...
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before I buy more craves I wish these questions were answered by someone from devteam.
It is the second time I'm posting:
how we can be sure that these coins will be burned and not dumped on market?
Is there a way that we can check this?
Is there an exchange for escrow?
Because its an unspendable address. That answers point one and two. Exchange for escrow of what? If you mean crave to blur the blur is sent to the address that you sent the crave to be burned from. Edit: UNSPENDABLE_MAINNET = 'Bs8Haw3nAsWf5hmLfKzc6PMEzcxUGSYjxf' yes that is a burn address. since the hex is 1B 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 i can trust that. but people who are new might not trust it. you could have made a proper burn address like BurnBurnBurnBurnBurnBurnBurnEku2FS Great job anyway! Looks good  |
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I understand that PoW has ended, however, is there a multipool up that'll reward in Crave?
were trying to find a trusted host like the peeps who is mia I might be interested in setting one up too, currently looking which coins are how rentable and checking some algos for conversion. Probably mining DASH and paying out in CRAVE etc.. Would be great if you got this up and running. |
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 Congratulations to idiots. Top wallet now are holding a lot more Crave now, top 25 are holding 76%! Great stakeout Nice, I'm in the richlist  I'm gonna be burning a lot for some Blur, my own market sounds like a great idea |
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Just curious dev, when you port the Masternodes will it be like Dark where it requires a X number of coins to operate one?
Yes. And we will probably make it relatively expensive so it represents a real commitment...maybe 500 CRAVE...still thinking of a good #. Also thinking it will be restricted to only work over TOR. Really liking this! |
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BIT is live. No shareholders are desperate to sell even for $315. Bullish?
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People are getting in early, there's not a lot to go around |
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Obvious bear flag was well... obvious
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Monero is trending up nicely. IMO monero is currently the number one anon coin. I'm just scared of zerocash...
Why are you scared of it? I have even not heard about it. What is its marketcap? The rise of DRK coin is a serious threath to Monero (yes, it has been argued it is insta/fastmine - but honestly people do not care about it - only us who are geeks are caring about it). I do not own any DRK (unfortunately) and I am not planning to hold it as the train has left the station in this coin IMO (marketcap is ~ 5 times higher than XMR and DRK is approaching LTC). Should we start a war agains DRK (perhaps shorting it to the bottomless pit...?). I guess in Bitfinex it is possible to short DRK if I am not mistaken...? Is it a smart thing to do? Yes and No. On the one hand DarkDash can only go up so much. I mean you have to consider the network strength (POS as it relates to POW). "Investors" are going to look at LTC and such, what it attained (.04 or .05 ratio to BTC) during the "boom", the volume at the time and then look at DarkDash and think, how much more? It is already almost halfway there and when things go up this straight it is both limited and extremely suspicious. On the other hand, those that look a bit deeper are going to come across all the questions about DarkDash and then look at Monero and if they do their DD (with mediocre technical understanding), probably find it is quite a bit above DarkDash. So, the upside is higher with Monero and limited (to a degree) with Dark. It is a gamble either way and even though I'd like to somewhat hedge my bet of Monero with some DarkDash, I can't morally do that. Just like I won't buy cRipple, albeit for a somewhat different reason. It's about sharing Comparing to ltc is a moot point. With over 1/3 of the available supply tied up in masternodes there are only around 3.5 million coins out. Some of the big whales such as otoh have tens of thousands of coins. It is likely there are only around (at a complete guess) 2 million coins out of the hands of masternodes and big whales who aren't looking to sell. This is a tiny number of coins left in comparison to ltc, it can and likely will go much higher imo. |
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Uptrend from the 'bottom' broken, cy'all at the 160 double bottom.
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Any reason why my coins that are over 8 hours old aren't staking?
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