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401  Economy / Exchanges / Re: BTC-e hacked ?? on: July 29, 2017, 06:46:40 PM
 BTC-e website is dead and all the funds will disappear in a way or other.  

those who used this shit exchanger must learn to use financial licensed exchangers next time.
402  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC-e.com down ! Police detains the owner . on: July 29, 2017, 06:38:39 PM
Sad Sad Sad Cry guys are there any way to get those money back  ? my years hard earned money is there  Cry Cry , all my freelancing projects , all sleepless night's fees gone  Sad Sad what to do now ? I kept there all bitcoin for trading to increase them  Cry Cry .. now i am lost , crying 


NO. there is no way.

The question is : why did you use a such exchanger instead of a licensed one? Smiley
403  Economy / Exchanges / Re: BTC-e.com on: July 29, 2017, 06:40:20 AM
It seems that the domain has indeed been sized -- reddit is literally exploding right now. I see the difference in the btc-e's whois, but it doesn't yet translate to me seeing that message. As mayax pointed out, it doesn't make any sense to make use of unlicensed exchanges. I feel stupid that I have taken such risks without actually thinking it through properly -- result is me losing the 1 BTC I had in my account there. I have accounts at Bitstamp and Kraken as well, but will not make use of Kraken anymore. I'll happily stick with Bitstamp from now on.

smart choice
404  Economy / Exchanges / Re: BTC-e.com on: July 28, 2017, 11:24:18 PM
I have $200k on btce and I just need to laugh at people who say for the millionth fucking time that having money on an exchange is stupid. The parrot. Only because USA is saying now, after 6 years, it is illegal, I must believe it? Why it is illegal to trade and exchange bitcoin and other crypto currencies? For what exactly is needed a license and why it cannot be a financial company in let's say New Zealand? Because USA say so? Because criminals are using it? Is a joke, correct, because everything is used by criminals, even corn syrup.

What about btce is the only real Russian site with Russian support? Where do all the Russians go? Do you think they are going to believe some European or USA website?

A Russian in Greece with Cyprus company and Bulgaria/Ukraine hosting has nothing to do with USA. They say otherwise because the world knees down to their unjust bullying.

Next really funny thing: Mtgox user will NEVER get ANYTHING from btce situation. If, and there is 0,0% proof that it happened, the USA kidnapped any of btce's money, the very last thing what is going to happen is to send it to Japan to Karpeles.

An individual is accused of stealing gox money but not the entity btce, well, accused means nothing and this WizSec breaking fake news article is just what it is, some random fake news statement.

If USA is able to kidnap the money, which I very highly doubt, they would auction it off in probably 5 to 10 years. Forget your wet dreams about cheap coins - you call me delusional thinking btce is going to make it back and I call you delusional for thinking gox will get any.

Yes, it is illegal to run a financial company(who accept and send fiat) without a proper license/MSB/whatever....

You can get a financial license in any country you want but you need a financial license in all the states you want to make business if that country requires that. USA requires that Smiley

BTC accepted US customers. It's simple. That means they made business "within" USA.

The question is why you have put 200K in a shaddy exchanger instead of using a real forex company who deal with BTC. There are quite few big real FOREX companies who accept BTC. YES, there are forex companies who accept BTC and you can trade there all day/night long.

 I bet you won't have any problem by using them. Nobody will seize you funds, delay the withdrawals and so on. Also, they don't have bank accounts in Mongolia (BTC-e had)  LOL

I really don't understand YOU and others like you. You have really good companies (licensed) but you are using a shit like BTC-e ? why? Smiley

405  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC-e.com down ! Police detains the owner . on: July 28, 2017, 01:33:11 PM
they will be back in 5-10 days according to their latest tweet, i don't think they will be coming back. rip btce.

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Update2: На данный момент ведутся работы по восстановлению работы сервиса. Примерные сроки от 5 до 10 дней. Спасибо за понимание #btce

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At the moment, work is underway to restore the service. Approximate time of 5 to 10 days. Thank you for understanding #btce

I wonder if they want down on purpose to keep all BTC there so they can withdraw the BCC under their own addresses.

Because if they let everyone take their BTCout now they wouldn't make as much BCCfrom taking everyones.

Interesting!

i got like 3ETHlocked up there... not much, but I hope i get it back.


their clients will see no funds back. let's cut the shit with sci-fi scenarios that BTC-e will be back and so on Smiley
  
the owners that are still free, will take the pot and they will live the rest of their lives without doing nothing (only eat, drink, girls and vacations)
406  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bittrex will support BCC - All BTC holders will get BCC on: July 28, 2017, 01:28:53 PM
Don't see the reason why would they do that, this is just another altcoin, doesn't have anything to do with Bitcoin. Anyway, I got the feeling that majority of exchangers, at least those bigest and most important ones, will not support BCC. Could be a lot of confunsions before and shortly after August 1 until everything gets back to normal.

all the chinese exchangers will support BCC + Bitfinex + Kraken + many others.
407  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC-e.com down ! Police detains the owner . on: July 28, 2017, 12:58:02 PM
If BTC blockchain was like XMR blockchain...

BTC should not worry about stupid scaling, but about privacy. A hardfork to a privacy layer is what's needed. Wink


Exactly,
Privacy is the next must step in Bitcoin improvements.

It is allready enough VISA to show all my cup of coffees and cheese cakes in monthly overview.

Again same shit with BTC?

No. Thanks.

Do we need a hardfork to implement CT (confidential transactions) to Bitcoin or Segwit alone is fine?


do not use VISA if you don't like it. Smiley
408  Economy / Exchanges / Re: BTC-e.com on: July 28, 2017, 08:58:55 AM
Dear everyone,

im holding atleast 500,000$ in my btc-e wallet what looks like gone for now.
im holding like 1700 ETH, 35k coins of NVC and 100k coins of NMC.

I heard good and bad news from the Russian side, but i dont know what to believe.
If there another peoples who control the BTC-e website the best for him is to go live back instead of stealing our money what will bring them to a criminal case.

I've also made a verification to BTC-E into XBTCE but they dont take any responsibility for now.

Anyone here also have more then 100K$ into the exchange please inform me so we can act together in any cases.

I hope to get a good news soon. Sad

you must be either stupid or ignorant (sorry, dude for this is the truth and you must face it.)  How can you put 500K USD in an UNLICENSED exchanger? that means you can afford to lose the money and done. don't come on forums to complain about that.

I said for tens of times that BTC-e is shady, shitty and it will be closed soon.

Again, you afford to lose this amount if you used this exchanger.

Stay away of Bitfinex, Kraken, Poloniex. They will have the same end...soon. Smiley

409  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Exchanges that will not support 'Bitcoin Cash" on: July 28, 2017, 07:35:01 AM
Supporting Bitcoin Cash: Bitfinex, Kraken, Bittrex, Huobi, Livecoin, BTCC, Bithumb, Viabtc, OkCoin

Not Supporting Bitcoin Cash: Poloniex, Coindash, GDAX, Itbit, Bitmex, Bitstamp

the big ones support the Bitcoin Cash  Smiley
410  Economy / Exchanges / Re: BTC-e hacked ?? on: July 27, 2017, 09:02:30 PM
and people must understand that he is NOT suspected for being behind the mtGox hack - he is suspected for laundering  money that came from the mtGox wallets. nothing else. analysis shows a moneyflow into btc-e, this is a fact. and this is why he is arrested. not for being behind the mtGox hack.

Laundering money through unlicensed exchange makes him accomplice with that hacker unless he can prove that he was not aware that he was used for that but since WizSec found his name long before then it seems that "WME" was keeping this issue unsolved for long time.

Check http://archive.is/6cFcY (at skype capture https://archive.is/6cFcY/1d5539131aad6491174158318495560bf91dd784.png you can find Alexander Vinnik name posted by WME user, 5 years ago).


Only 5-6 exchangers are licensed. I am wondering why the people are using shit ones like BTC-e. I said for so many times that unlicensed exchangers will be closed.

Kraken, Poloniex, Bittrex‏ (based in USA). None of them are MSB. Again, it doesn't matter that they are registered with FINCEN. It means NOTHING. Smiley

They must be MSB prior to that. These ones will be closed, funds seized and so on.
411  Economy / Exchanges / Re: POLONIEX FRAUD SCAM on: July 27, 2017, 08:47:27 PM
what bank is Poloniex using?
412  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC-e.com down ! Police detains the owner . on: July 27, 2017, 08:09:01 PM
If the news is true, then all btc-e assets will be taken, this will be the second case after mt.gox. Btc-e becomes a law target because of the case of movable securities assets that should be reported as a fixed tax for the government. Maybe it's time we think of DEX or many other markets.

yes, the news are true. i think the losses are tens of millions Smiley
413  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC-e.com down ! Police detains the owner . on: July 27, 2017, 04:38:02 PM
what people should think about it's that many other exchangers are in the same position as BTC-e .

do not use unlicensed exchangers or use them and don't complain if your funds will be lost or seized Smiley

few of these exchangers are based in USA. they are next.
414  Economy / Exchanges / Re: BTC-e hacked ?? on: July 27, 2017, 10:03:17 AM
All other unlicensed exchanges are now facing the same danger as it is happening to BTC-e.

US can issue arrest warrant to any of exchanges and their operators (owners and employees) will be arrested when they step into any country that have signed a treaty I have mentioned above.

Lets just hope that BTC-e owners considered this possibility and that they have a way to get out of this. If not, all unlicensed exchanges might close their businesses, at least for US citizens.


i am saying that since years ago...

Kraken, Poloniex and Bitfinex are next.
415  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Is Kraken government-backed in the US? on: July 27, 2017, 08:16:37 AM
Most states require money services businesses operating within their territory to be licensed with the state banking department.
So, you can be MSB without a license in some states, huh?

being registered as MSB = financial license
https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndca/press-release/file/984661/download
Check allegation number 6.

check count 1.  : Operation of an unlicensed Money Service.
allegation number 6 is referring to the fact that BTC-e had no AML process in place. it's something extra Smiley
416  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC-e.com down ! Police detains the owner . on: July 26, 2017, 10:48:16 PM
this doesn't say anything specifically about BTC-E. It does say they laundered billions of dollars over the years, but that is probably more likely to be Virwox. That shit is shady as hell and makes no sense. u ever go to that one?


http://www.dailythess.gr/h-megali-klopi-bitcoins-dark-web-ke-chlidati-zoi-tou-rosou-pou-entopise-fbi-sti-chalkidiki/


IT'S ABOUT BTC-E, wake up ! Smiley
417  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC-e.com down ! Police detains the owner . on: July 26, 2017, 10:44:47 PM
BTC-e shit is down     LOL  

I warned about BTC-e(and many like them) since years ago... Smiley    

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-greece-russia-arrest-idUSKBN1AB1OP

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-greece-russia-arrest-suspect-idUSKBN1AB1VR


BTC value will drop for sure  Smiley

I just heard that they tried to run away with approximately 66k bitcoin. It's good that police were able to track them down. But I am sure the legitimate bitcoin owners will never get back their amount and it will be seized by the government to fill up their treasury as unclaimed funds.

It is really a sad news because due to these kind of scammers, the reputation of bitcoin is in danger and general people will think that bitcoin users are mostly scammers because they don't get to look at the bigger pictures.

and it's almost true. 80% from the BTC market is coming from the black market... 

BTC will become a real asset when ALL the exchangers will be regulated(financial license).
418  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC-e.com down ! Police detains the owner . on: July 26, 2017, 08:12:30 PM
they will be back in 5-10 days according to their latest tweet, i don't think they will be coming back. rip btce.

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Update2: На данный момент ведутся работы по восстановлению работы сервиса. Примерные сроки от 5 до 10 дней. Спасибо за понимание #btce

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At the moment, work is underway to restore the service. Approximate time of 5 to 10 days. Thank you for understanding #btce

Let's hope that's simply the time it takes for the Feds to snapshot their data and return the servers... My altcoins there have nothing to do with their shenanigans.


you are joking, right? Smiley
419  Economy / Exchanges / Re: BTC-E down all day? on: July 26, 2017, 08:08:59 PM
We're screwed... Undecided

well, those who used BTC-e...you are one of them Smiley
420  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC-e.com down ! Police detains the owner . on: July 26, 2017, 07:06:14 PM
This is ridiculous. The Americans have detained a Russian citizen in Greece, for running a Bitcoin operation from Bulgaria. Now they want him deported to the United States. WTF? Why the Americans can't mind their own business.

Most states require money services businesses operating within their territory to be licensed with the state banking department.  Note that many states also require registration of foreign MSBs(finacial company) that transact with their residents.  For example, money transmitters with no physical presence in Texas that transact with residents of Texas must be licensed in the State of Texas; same with all the other states.

So, if your company is registered in EU or any in other country and  it makes financial transactions(you are an exchanger) with US residents, you MUST be MSB in all the States.

US considers that once you deal with US residents, you must respect their law. See the casinos too; same shit Smiley  The casinos(even they are registered in EU) are not allowed to deal with US citizens.
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