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421  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: July 28, 2023, 11:35:41 PM


Ireland women's team have given a target of 217 runs to Aussies team. Orla Prendergast was the highest run scorer from Ireland side as she scored 71 runs on 109 balls. Ashleigh Gardner and Kim Grath both took 3 wickets. Australians have started batting and so far they have scored 38 runs in 6 overs without losing any wicket. Looks like an easy win for Australia Women.

Australian women did not face any major challenges in this women’s international one day match against Ireland. Australian women won the toss and decided to bowl first. That was a wise decision. From Ireland, only Orla Prendergast was able to score a good amount of runs. She was the only one having a good score beside her name. No one else was actually able to have a good score.

On the other hand, Australian women did not even lose one we get to chase down the target of 218. Both the Australian openers got a century each. A very dominating win for Australian women.
In every match the Australian Women team keeps proving they're the strongest with their performance. In the match against Ireland Women the score isn't big for them and the team had managed to win without losing a wicket. Both the openers Litchfield and Sutherland have scored century and won it for the team in the 36th over. For Ireland it is a better experience and they'll get to know where they need to concentrate more. The team is somehow getting good with batting and now they need to focus much on bowling.
422  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling experience using loan money on: July 28, 2023, 11:30:37 PM
Gambling with loaned funds is outright insanity. You are just digging a grave for yourself because you don't have any guarantees that you will win anything, or even win back what you put in the casino/gambling platform. Better to gamble with something that came from your own money rather than getting it from somewhere else then making a problem out of it.
This gonna lead the gambler towards grave for sure. Maybe one in hundred will be successful whereas the majority end up losing the loan amount, and once again starts struggling to repay the loan as well as the interest. I've personally experienced it and when we've got good wallet balance all we do is wager with high amount. Even when we have made good profit the mind never accepts and makes us go for more and end up losing everything. One could learn from experience and many of them will understand only through experience and we need to leave it to their choice on these things.
423  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Greed can cause a lost bet, (true or false) on: July 26, 2023, 11:58:47 PM
Greed is a negative emotion, hence it's results are always negative. Learn to identify and don't be carried away by it.
Please permit me to reason from the other angle of discussion. How about if a gambler is greedy and such greed leads the gambler into winnings.  Such that the more greedy he becomes, the more he wins. What do we call such a scenario or do we argue that such a scenario doesn't exist.

That's called luck and nothing else. Anyone can be lucky on a certain day and not be lucky on another. The thing is, would this luck be consistent every day, such that being greedy is more rewarding rather than destructive? I don't think so. Luck runs out, and even if you know that something is going to be in your favor, it's best not to get greedy you aren't 100% sure that the outcome won't change.
As said even when you're greedy and if there is luck you'll be able to make big win. The opposite thing could happen if luck is not in favour of you. This is how gambling works, as said it is all about the luck rather than the greed. Greed can be the result of loss when the person have made big money out of small bets and couldn't stop it and ends up losing everything. Here luck had favoured, but the greed washed out everything.
424  Economy / Speculation / Re: Know your time to HOLD on: July 26, 2023, 11:55:09 PM
I think the best thing for success and profit in bitcoin is to understand price trends, if we are used to investing in crypto for at least 4 years then we will understand price trends or charts that occur, as long as we can be patient then we can get profits, the main key is of course don't panic when you see price movements.
I don't know but I feel it's very hard to monitor the price trend since Bitcoin is very volatile although past observation has proven that the market always goes high after the halving and this has been known to happen every fours. But on still all this are still speculation but I will be skeptical and hope to see the uptrend come after this halving that's why stocking BTC would be the best plan for since the bull season is just along the corner.
Based on the cyclic pattern of the market we're close to the days of halving and the same could bring better price in the days before or after halving. Hy this time the focus needs to be on holding bitcoin, apart from this time period we should always have a right time period to hold, which means atleast 3-5 years need to set. During this time period we may experience bounce or decline, and the close observation will let us make use of opportunities and increase the holding volume.
425  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Education and money as the key to Bitcoin adoption. on: July 26, 2023, 11:51:18 PM
...snip...but I also believe it's doing relatively well, because I know stuff like this takes time but we should also not delude ourselves into thinking Bitcoin will be accepted globally anytime soon. We just have to keep playing whatever small part we're playing however insignificant it might seem.

In addition to many people's illusion that bitcoin will soon be accepted globally. Many people are still delusional and spreading false information about bitcoin like it is a tool to help alleviate poverty, reduce unemployment or will help the world economy prosper...too much exaggerated news is unnecessarily being spread. I think this also contributes to the fact that many people understand bitcoin well but still hate it because they are realists and like the truth. We spread misinformation like we are turning bitcoin into a Ponzi scheme that makes many people dislike bitcoin, dislike bitcoin community.
In one part of the world things were taking place with the positive news about bitcoin getting shared whereas in the other side the negative thing is happening around. As said this can be kept in control only through the proper awareness and education that lets people to understand the real purpose for which bitcoin existed and how good it is getting used around.
426  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: July 25, 2023, 11:51:04 PM
Of course, Pakistan is a favorite in this game. But unfortunately, nobody can control the weather except for the Almighty. We have to wait for day three to see if the weather improves to see some cricket.
Sad to see so many interesting tests end like this, but this isn't anything new to be honest. All of this could be avoided if ICC constructed closed roof stadiums in important locations around the world.

However, none of this will ever change since all cricket boards are busy filling their pockets whenever possible.

Well no one has control over the weather and the matches are decided months ahead and no one can forecast the rain on any particular day with 100% accuracy.

As far as Pakistan Srilanka, match is concerned, we still have 3 days left in the match and this should be enough time for the Pakistan team to win this match. They are 12 runs ahead in the first innings and they would want the rain to stay away for the next 3 days, Pakistan still have 8 wickets in hand so we know they are here to take a big lead in this match.
In recent weeks all the test matches played around have got interrupted by rain. The major one being the 4th test match between England and Australia which favoured Australia, but it was a winning match of England and ended in a draw. Similar way game ended with India against West Indies, however India was able to win the series as the first match was won by them. This time it is between Pakistan and Sri Lanka. Hope the three days left will help Pakistan team win the match, still we can't be sure as the weather is completely unpredictable as our bitcoin.
427  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Women's Cricket Prediction & Discussion - T20 & ODI on: July 25, 2023, 11:46:43 PM
Ireland Women vs Australia Women, 2nd ODI Match Ireland Women decided to bowl the opening ball. Currently Australia women team is batting their batting performance is excellent today. Australia women's team is much stronger than Ireland women's team in the match. Although it is difficult to say which team will win today's match, the team that can perform well will have a chance. The Australian women batsmen had already lost a wicket which made it very difficult for their team and put Australia under pressure. Although the Australia women's team can produce good pairs later on, they certainly have enough wickets to increase the runs. at the moment Australia women's team has 22 runs and lost 1 wicket after finishing 5 overs, they seem to be doing well at the moment.
The first match of the series got cancelled without a ball being bowled. Second match of the series got over and Australia women team have made it a massive win. Being the strongest among the women teams, it is the expected result. As usual Australia Women team players Ellyse, Ashleigh and Mooney had awesome innings and the same helped Australia Women team reach the score 321/7. Following this Ireland women started the innings and ended scoring 168 runs with the top score coming from Amy Hunter(50 runs).
428  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: As a gambler do you have a potential winning amount limit? on: July 25, 2023, 11:33:48 PM
I used to have such mindset at times. In that occasion I need to see little winning added to the previous balance. Even $1 added to the balance makes me happy as the previous balance will be around $30. However this doesn't happen all the time. Being unlucky the balance keeps falling and at some point the mind wants back what is available in the wallet. Here we start risking to go behind the losses and the same empties the wallet. Setting potential win amount is always risky in my view, but the mind always prefer those kind of practice.
429  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What if salaries were paid in BTC on: July 25, 2023, 11:29:12 PM
A friend of mine in our discussion today about Bitcoin was insisting that salaries and wages be paid in Bitcoin in some countries.
I was of the opinion that the government will not allow fiat to be replaced by Bitcoin .so what is your take on this will it be a positive move on the Bitcoin ecosystem or not
When bitcoin became legal tender on a global scale, this type of discussion about bitcoin being used to pay salaries and wages would have made sense to have. At that point, we could have started to consider whether it would be appropriate for the government to offer its citizens the option of receiving salaries and wages in bitcoin or not.

Considering that Bitcoin hasn't been widely used. This makes it difficult for something like that to start happening or for us to reason why the government should have our salaries and wages paid in bitcoin. 


It isn't too early to discuss. Similar discussion will surely make some of the small scale firms encourage paying the salaries in terms of BTC. Same time people will also get awareness of similar possibilities. Legality of bitcoin is much needed for such things to happen around. The usage of bitcoin is limited, but it have multiple access which is the best part. At any point the governments won't show interest as they fear of making money out of taxation.
430  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: July 24, 2023, 11:57:21 PM
This draw is going to hurt the Indian campaign. It was considered an easy away series and sure 24 points but now they have to keep only 4 points (for 2nd test).

The next away series is against South Africa (2 tests) and Australia (5 tests) so it won't be easy. Draw series in SA is a possibility, an Aussie tour would be tough.
Atleast India was able to lead the series as the team have won the first test match. With the England team it was very pity, because they had got a big opportunity to level the series and keep the series winning probability alive. Now they've missed the chance and at their best now the choice available is to level the series. India could perform well against teams like West Indies an the real cricket can be seen on the upcoming away series.
431  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you quit that's when you lose! on: July 24, 2023, 11:44:19 PM
Moreover, there is no sense in chasing what is already lost because gambling itself doesn't guarantee you that you can really get it back and let's not forget that in the first place, our chances of winning is much lower compared to our chances of losing. Even before we started our bet, even if we thought about it careful, our chances will be the same and the upper hand will not belong to us because that is the reality of gambling.
Yeah aside from luck there's nothing that we can have that upper hand, chasing your loses will only result to another one, that's how it is most of the time, either you'll be lucky and you will continue to proceed instead of quitting or you will experience another loss and you will add more money to your bankroll., If you want to be safe or if you want not to experience more loses better to accept your defeat and forget about chasing your money, there's no assurance that you'll be able to recover it, consider things as part of that hard learning from your gambling experienced.

gambling is gambling, so chasing losses is not the option to get back your money. if you want to change your path, better start thinking of quitting. let go of those losses you had, you will get it back by earning it from your job.
but if decide not to stop, this will only be a cycle of losing and winning, and you won't really get the amount that you want.
Not everyone have the mindset. We shouldn't consider gambling as a source to make money. This is where the real problem arises. We can state this in words, but we find it hard while making use of it in realtime. We just gamble for fun and our mind finds good if we were able to win something. This is how gambling makes people to chase what they've lost.

The statment that is being used around the region of the OP is something misleading, because gambling is not the place where one have to be strong to fight and win. It is a place where we need to enjoy with what we can afford to loss and move on.
432  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Being Knowledgeable before Bitcoin investment is very Good on: July 24, 2023, 11:29:42 PM
Well, investing in Bitcoin is not far different from any other form of investment. Regardless if it was Bitcoin or not, we still think about earning a profit as our main goal and we can't get 100% assurance from any of them but we can make it possible as long as we know what we have to do - and this is how important to have knowledge before doing anything. We can say that it was a pre-requisite in any form or investment and we must if we aim for success otherwise, never expect it anymore.

I think investing in Bitcoin is different from other forms of investing because bitcoin is a high risk investment and the market is unstable. The profit you get from investing in Bitcoin is high and worth the risk of trusting Bitcoin. You need knowledge on this things to profit from Bitcoin.

I think it is still the same.  The basic knowledge we need about investment plays an important part.  Those who do not understand Bitcoin may say that Bitcoin is a high risk investment but if we happen to know the Bitcoin market pattern, Bitcoin is a sure profit investment.  We only need patience and wait for the price to surge or for the cycle to reach the peak market price and sell then wait for the bottom to buy.  We all know that  Bitcoin market history had proven these events.


Basic understanding about bitcoin, its market, the growth pattern, time required for the growth, how market manipulation takes place, what is the time period required to profit everything need to be known in a wider perspective. Through this only the person himself can stay calm amidst the unexpected market movements happening around. When we don't have the real understanding automatically the people who had come with big expectation will find it wrong and the same gets conveyed through them. This shouldn't happen.
433  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Don't expect everyone to embrace Bitcoin on: July 24, 2023, 11:13:15 PM
Everyone aren't like minded, even now people find it hard to believe that a number have got value and there is no physical presence of bitcoin similar to the paper currency. This is how our people, and to make them understand the technicalities is really a tough task. There are people who always look for a better investment choice and finds bitcoin. Going through the chart itself enough for them to choose it to be the right one for investment. More change needs to happen and this doesn't happen all of the sudden. It takes time for the common man to understand and get adopted to it, then only bitcoin is being believed strongly and recommended.
434  Economy / Economics / Re: Population: Economic strength or weakness on: July 23, 2023, 11:59:14 PM
The population is added strength when they contribute economically to nation building in individual quota. It becomes a weakness if hunger, unemployment, and other vices has become upheld.

With this current technological innovations in crypto, AI, Web3 worldwide, we are already witnesses to a population rise and a generation of android/smartphone babies who live more online and with earning skills online too.
Population is a strength to the country's economy, but the population needs to be the younger generation. The governments participation is much needed in creating jobs and fulfilling the basic needs of the population. When the government isn't able to do the needful automatically people will look for opportunities away from the country and settles down.

The dependence on online is much, however without the manufacturing sector we can't make an economy more stronger. The usage of online services were just to manage things in a better way whereas the manufacturing industry is the economy uplifting framework.
435  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why do 90% of Bettors Lose in Sports Betting in the Long-term? on: July 23, 2023, 10:58:01 PM
With casino this happens. Sports betting is much on the information available and how we predict the outcome of the match. Here also luck is necessary, but it is a factor in very few matches. With casino games it is all about choice and luck is much needed to be successful. Sports betting loses happen out of over confidence, which means they choose the odds without much analysis as well as go for big money spending.
436  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: July 23, 2023, 10:51:05 PM
After India won the toss and decided to bowl, I didn't expect to see them bowl so badly. Pakistani batsmen were batting very well from the beginning of the innings. Their run rate was more than 6. And since Pakistan's run rate was pretty good from the start, they were able to set a huge target of 353. And batting at 353 lakhs I was sure that India would not win. But I thought India would be able to score like 300 runs. But the performance of the Indian batsmen was very poor. They lost all the wickets in 40 overs. And collected only 224 runs. India conceded a humiliating defeat by 128 runs in the final.

The game was dominated by Pakistan from the very first ball to very last ball. 352 runs is a massive total and credit goes to Pakistani batting lineup specially Tayyab Tahir. After aggressive batting, Pakistan bowlers didn't have to work too hard to get wickets. India keep losing wickets in regular intervals which cost them the match. Tayyab Tahir has already played 3 T20I and may be he can get a call for ODI squad because of his great innings in final.
Pakistan A came with the plan and India A team gave the opportunity to execute it. If they've batted first match could've been different. Anyhow big disappointment for India A team, because it won a tough semifinals against Bangladesh A. While chasing the big target standing wickets is very important. At the beginning runs came good for India A, but the same didn't continued and there were fast wicket fall which made India end the innings at 224 runs.
Such type of situations often happen in cricket world. India was considered to be the favorite but in the end India did not get the expected result. But I won't see it differently because if we follow the 12th match, India beat Pakistan by 8 wickets. At that moment, Pakistan set a target of 205 runs, which India collected for just two wickets. But they could not make any advantage in the final match. Now It is natural that India's bowling line-up will be criticized.
We need to see the difference in the target between 352 runs and 205 runs. When the score is low automatically there won't be much of pressure chasing the Target whereas the same when the target is high automatically the pressure will build up and the losing of wickets can be seen throughout. This is how low targets were chased depending on the runs scored by the opponent.
437  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamblers Belief on: July 23, 2023, 10:46:34 PM
The never give up attitude towards gambling can be seen with limited number of gamblers whereas the majority of the gamblers have known well about the situation and makes an exit/break. When it comes to gambling the never give up won't work as we all depending on luck for sinner, lunch. Never give up attitude should be carried when you follow your dreams or follow your passion.
438  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: July 23, 2023, 08:53:53 PM
After India won the toss and decided to bowl, I didn't expect to see them bowl so badly. Pakistani batsmen were batting very well from the beginning of the innings. Their run rate was more than 6. And since Pakistan's run rate was pretty good from the start, they were able to set a huge target of 353. And batting at 353 lakhs I was sure that India would not win. But I thought India would be able to score like 300 runs. But the performance of the Indian batsmen was very poor. They lost all the wickets in 40 overs. And collected only 224 runs. India conceded a humiliating defeat by 128 runs in the final.

The game was dominated by Pakistan from the very first ball to very last ball. 352 runs is a massive total and credit goes to Pakistani batting lineup specially Tayyab Tahir. After aggressive batting, Pakistan bowlers didn't have to work too hard to get wickets. India keep losing wickets in regular intervals which cost them the match. Tayyab Tahir has already played 3 T20I and may be he can get a call for ODI squad because of his great innings in final.
Pakistan A came with the plan and India A team gave the opportunity to execute it. If they've batted first match could've been different. Anyhow big disappointment for India A team, because it won a tough semifinals against Bangladesh A. While chasing the big target standing wickets is very important. At the beginning runs came good for India A, but the same didn't continued and there were fast wicket fall which made India end the innings at 224 runs.
439  Economy / Economics / Re: Can your passion lead to an increase in your net worth? on: July 22, 2023, 11:59:47 PM
Most of people who are successful in life and holds good networth have followed their passion. Now we follow them and gets inspired, but we don't have the courage to follow our passion. For many people it is the family situation that never lets them to follow their passion, because they need to earn and uplift the family. Following the passion will make you high, but it needs time. Some have all the facilities, but they have the fear in their mind. To come out of it is not an easy thing.

Whether you follow your passion or make yourself to have an on the go choice there must be proper identification. You need to find yourself good in something. When we weren't able to identify it following passion or on the go doesn't lead to success.
440  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who is to be blamed, the gambler or the betting agent on: July 22, 2023, 11:56:03 PM
online casinos will never provide loan facilities to their customers because that will be very risky because so many customers come from countries that prohibit gambling, so even if they provide credit card guarantees or KYC it is very risky for online casinos.

Even though the online casino has the KYC of the users, yet it is very easy for scammers to create an account, do the KYC, and apply for a loan.
Some can say that casinos can safeguard the return of the loans by not allowing the withdrawal until the loan is cleared. How about anyone getting the loan, losing all in the gambling, and quitting the site forever without returning the loan?

it's different from land-based casinos, in that the country or city certainly allows the gambling business, so it's only natural that land-based casinos provide loans to their customers. and I'm not sure if gamblers would avoid the casino if offered a betting loan because we know that not all gamblers are sane minds but many gamblers will accept such an offer.

In physical casinos, it is easier to recover the loans, but it is worth it for the gambling casino to give the loan service and face all these hassles from the gamblers not returning or delaying the return of loans, as they will usually lose all the loan money in the gambling.
It is a debatable situation, why the casino agent has such an opportunity to give loans to gamblers on a physical gambling place.
If he loans, it means management and awareness of gambling problems are not the case there.
Quitting has never been easy, so it is understandable why the "victim" will continue to play even if someone pays his loan back, IMHO.
Agreed, quitting is not an easy thing. Whether it is gambling or something else. The owner shouldn't have given money, just because he gave money the victim continued spending. If not, he could've left with what he had lost from his pocket. The trouble maker is the casino owner who knows well about the reality of gambling that it is not easy to recover the losses.
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