What countries have already banned bitcoin if any. Is it mainly banks that there is a issue with. I can imagine that if someone was to cash in alot of bitcoin and ended up with a large sum of money in their account it may raise some questions
I think it is not totally bitcoin has been banned in some countries maybe there are some sites that are not yet accessible for the people who are trying to surf on it. And then thats why in some areas bitcoin is not yet introduced or accepted but sooner or later government will see potential in this. ecuador, bolivia, kyrgizstan, saudi arabia, this countries declared* BTC illegal and many others like Iceland, Vietnam, Bangladesh, India, Thailand. |
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it's not about "legalizes". it was legal if you had a financial license in past too. that means "legalize". it's nothing new all the exchangers must have a financial license(doesn't matter the country) and this is the future. ask Kraken, Poloniex, BTC-e and others if they have one (only 6 exchangers own a license) .  |
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seems chicago has the best understanding of the reality of whats happening with all the drama right now. that gif explains easily. now people just need to get passed the drama and actually look at the future REALITY of ACTUAL growth expectations and solutions glad to see that there are people who still think. so many sheep here, brainwashed, shills and kids... during the years, i saw that nobody is interested about truth. |
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everyone take youre funds of the exchange, i just did a complaint to the sec and tomorrow ill do FBI, you should all complaint if you got stolen funds from them; as for the others you should wake up, this will close them for sure ; so take your funds while you can , look at my video for proof, its the post before heres link for FBI complaint https://www.ic3.gov/complaint/splash.aspx?https://youtu.be/otdc-AvV1OYread description to understand video well, as I said in my previous posts... this is happening when "you" are using fishy exchangers(without financial license). Poloniex and many others like them, are just "websites" with nothing behind. they can disappear overnight, they have no insurance, nothing... |
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Expensive is a relative word. What's expensive for others might just be peanuts for some. And if we talk about investments, it is usually the ones who have money to spare that are able to afford to buy bitcoins even at such a high price. The lower income people can still invest by buying in fractions and if they are patient enough, one whole bitcoin isn't too hard to achieve.
patient enough? years? BTC won't exists as it is in years and it's a high risk investment. this should be a fast return investment. how long will someone earn if he invest 200 usd today? LOL to invest 200 usd worth of BTC, he has to send a bank wire(fee around of 40 usd) and then, IF he make any profit, he will have to pay another wire fee for withdrawal. |
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I used Bitstamp when it was young. Verification was pain in the ass, but no other problems. But later I read some bad reviews and don't like how Bitstamp is acting worse than a bank. Search on the Internet for: - Bitstamp new KYC. This is what it actually ment when they became "first nationally licensed BTC exchange"
- Bitstamp will not process withdrawal unless you prove the source of every coin you've ever traded on their exchange.
- Bitstamp wants to get to know me a bit more than I'm comfortable with
- Bitstamp asking intrusive questions before they allow any more USD wire withdrawals
Also I am worried that I will need another verification and it may cost me hundreds of dollars to prepare a recent certified/notarized copies of my company's documents. well, that means to be financial licensed. you get verified and you can deal without any problem. it's the same with any online FOREX company. remember, that they have to be sure that YOU are YOU and not someone else (same as the banks). in the end, it's MORE comfortable to deal with a financial licensed company than with a shit one like BTC-e(today is registered in UK and tomorrow in Cyprus and after tomorrow in Russia) |
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Nothing extra could be done in this matter except creating awareness among the people that bitcoin is further divisible into 8 units called satoshis.So no need to get worried about the high price of bitcoin.Just they could even buy 0.00000001 btc which is one satoshi.Even i faced the same problem with my friends when i introduced them bitcoins.Then i explained them that they could even buy 0.1 btc or 0.01 btc and then they got convinced.
why would you buy 0.1? what for? trading? you would better spend time with some girls instead  how would you buy 0.1 BTC? bank wire? the bank wire fee is more than the amount you send. so, it's useless to buy few BTC cents |
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Well, I am fucked. My offshore bank has US based banks for USD transfers.
Is there a way to buy some bitcoins with wire transfer from corporate bank account without verification and using US banks as intermediaries (correspondent banks)?
I sent docs to BTC-E (via theri xbte.com website) 6 days ago and no response since then.
use a financial licensed exchanger and you won't have any problem. your wire will be received, you will not be scammed, you will have the peace of the mind. why do you want to use an shit exchanger from "nowhere" with bank account in Mongolia? do you want to test your pain tolerance?  |
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Just email them directly, don't take my word for it. I'm guessing all states
it's a fake information. Kraken is not registered as MSB in any state. |
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i recommend everybody to search for real FOREX companies who accept BTC. This is one of them but you can surely find others too: http://www.avatrade.com/trading-info/range-of-markets/cryptocurrencies/bitcoinyou will NEVER have any problems with deposits, withdrawals or other orders execution, shits that happen very often with exchangers. you will never have reasons to complain. i see tons of complaints (indeed, the most of them for unlicensed exchangers like Kraken, BTC-e, Bitfinex, Poloniex, etc) and I wondering why these people are not looking "sonewhere" to make the "business". example: real forex companies who accept BTC. it's so simple. |
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I am afraid price of bitcoin may get struck below $2500 by end of July as there will be mixed sentiment may persist among traders till scalability issue will get resolved completely. Only after gaining big confident on there will be no more scalability problems like higher fees and longer waiting time for confirmation with nominal fees, we can see prices surging up again.
Still bitcoin may hit new ATH before aug 1st, but doubt it may not sustain above $3000 levels as of now as many whales may start utilizing those prices to book profits.
why are you afraid? BTC is already a bubble. everybody wants to rise up. rising based on what? you can make money by trading even the btc is going down. |
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Anyways, I don't really think this is Bitcoin discussion or that it will have an effect on Bitcoin...
I think it is relevant. Even though they're a lot quieter than they once were, and wisely so, they must still be driving a fair amount of BTC volume. Somewhere like Alphabay must've had several hundred thousand users and that means Bitcoin users. Looking at the daily trading volumes of bitcoin on the exchanges I would say that the darkweb would account for a very small percentage of it. Considering most of the shut down sites are renamed and up and running shortly after, I would say the total affect on the bitcoin price would be negligible. the volumes are fake. they are pump by using the "willy" bot in order to appear that they have many orders and to manipulate the price. so, do not believe what you see on their websites. |
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it is simple. two gangs are fighting for supremacy. |
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Yeah, well I say there's not enough bullshit tokens made on the Ethereum blockchain, so we need a decentralised dark net market on it. We should raise about $100 million dollars for the ICO, then mysteriously disappear under the guise of being taken down by law enforcement. Anyways, I don't really think this is Bitcoin discussion or that it will have an effect on Bitcoin...
A large amount of BTC adoption is on dark net markets. It's not all of BTC's adoption, but that's the only major place I can think of where everyone accepts BTC and no one accepts fiat.
The "war on drugs" doesn't work anyway. All this means is that more people move over to Dream Market or something. Then if Dream Market gets taken down, they'll go somewhere else. If the situation for dark net market users becomes so dire that they have to leap between markets ten times a day, that's when a decentralised market will pop up. I'm sure it's possible if people are desperate enough. In the meantime, dark net markets will just be losing credibility because of states seizing everyone's coins. BTC value would worth around of 10 usd without the black market. the so called "traders", are "few". |
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Ok, I got the actual deal from Kraken (you can email them).
They ARE a registered MSB.
However they AREN'T insured, either for fiat or BTC.
I understand that insurance for BTC might not be easy, but it's seriously lame that there's no insurance for USD stored - it can't be that hard. Anyone who is thinking about opening up a competing exchange in the US, you should do it because that is a dealbreaker (and insure for USD obviously).
could you please share with us where they are registered as MSB? what state(s)? |
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ALL the big exchangers are using the bot(Willy) in order to fake the trading volumes. The volumes are not real ( see the chinesse exchanges, BTC-e, Bitfinex, Poloniex and many others). It's not only me who is saying and knowing that, kid Yet you use an account name on MtGox as "proof" that something is wrong. Where is your acutal proof? If it's not only you, which other credible sources are claiming this and what's their concrete evidence? do you want me to "audit" their shit fake volume? it's something of common sense. the Chinese exchanges didn't accept deposits for months. they had BIG volumes. Now, Bitfinex do not have any bank account and they have big volumes. It is a NON SENSE you must be blind if don't see that... what's so hard to admit that BTC market is an unregulated shit and almost all the exchangers are doing what they want(for their own benefit)? even, Bobby Lee, CEO of BTCC, has also stated that his competitors, Okcoin and Huobi, are known for inflating trading volumes artificially, a market manipulation technique called "wash trading." you may read these: http://www.bitcoinfuturesguide.com/bitcoin-blog/reminder-chinese-bitcoin-spot-exchanges-okcoin-and-huobi-are-faking-a-majority-of-their-trading-volumehttp://www.coindesk.com/real-volumes-revealed-bitcoin-reacting-new-age-trading-fees/http://www.coindesk.com/chinese-bitcoin-exchange-okcoin-accused-faking-trading-data/ |
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then, how they can have a such volume? of course, it is a FAKE volume like many others. they have no bank accounts, they cannot receive and send money. an exchanger without bank accounts, it's a dead exchanger. Bitfinex doesn't look like a dead exchange And it doesn't look that it is going to die any time soon either. At first, Bitcoin traded there at a premium of roughly 150 dollars (when cash deposits as well as withdrawals had been suspended), but then prices leveled out eventually, and right now the exchange has basically the same prices as any other major exchange out there. Aside from that, fiat withdrawals are still possible (if I'm not mistaken), though it requires opening a support ticket, and they are processed on a case by case basis. Somehow, I don't see a lot of people running away from this exchange fiat withdrawals and deposits are not possible for "everybody". obvious, they have fake volumes(as usual). why would you choose an exchanger without fiat deposit and fiat withdrawals when there others without any problem? Actually your claims are baseless. You are also clearly a troll backed by one of their competitors. chill ! I am saying the facts. if you read my posts, I say the same things about other exchangers as well (Kraken, BTC-e, Poloniex, Bitfinex and many others); that they are running illegal business not being financial licenses. No, you don't. so, cut the crap that I am a troll. yes you are. how can they have a such volume? yes, the Willy bot is at work...this is the answer they have many customers who trade large volumes. There is high volatility. The fact that you are referencing a 'willy bot' is further evidence that you are a troll. it seems that you are either an ignorant, a brainwashed or a shill if after so many years, you come and say that there is no Willy bot on the market and that the exchangers are "clean".... it's without comments ALL the big exchangers are using the bot(Willy) in order to fake the trading volumes. The volumes are not real ( see the chinesse exchanges, BTC-e, Bitfinex, Poloniex and many others). It's not only me who is saying and knowing that, kid |
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37 days since poloniex stole my btc , still no news , no refund
this is happening when you are using exchangers without a financial license(MSB, etc). there are only few who have one but be sure that they won't "scam" : Gemini, Coinbase, Circle, Itbit, Bitstamp |
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then, how they can have a such volume? of course, it is a FAKE volume like many others. they have no bank accounts, they cannot receive and send money. an exchanger without bank accounts, it's a dead exchanger. Bitfinex doesn't look like a dead exchange And it doesn't look that it is going to die any time soon either. At first, Bitcoin traded there at a premium of roughly 150 dollars (when cash deposits as well as withdrawals had been suspended), but then prices leveled out eventually, and right now the exchange has basically the same prices as any other major exchange out there. Aside from that, fiat withdrawals are still possible (if I'm not mistaken), though it requires opening a support ticket, and they are processed on a case by case basis. Somehow, I don't see a lot of people running away from this exchange fiat withdrawals and deposits are not possible for "everybody". obvious, they have fake volumes(as usual). why would you choose an exchanger without fiat deposit and fiat withdrawals when there others without any problem? Actually your claims are baseless. You are also clearly a troll backed by one of their competitors. chill ! I am saying the facts. if you read my posts, I say the same things about other exchangers as well (Kraken, BTC-e, Poloniex, Bitfinex and many others); that they are running illegal business not being financial licenses. so, cut the crap that I am a troll. Bitfinex do not accept and send fiat. it's a fact. my question is : how can they have a such volume? yes, the Willy bot is at work...this is the answer |
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