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5001  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: We have been told: Invest only Extra money in bitcoin on: January 02, 2023, 09:42:31 AM
So the truth is that for middle class and poor class, if you don't invest in bitcoin, you don't have any other worthful methods to invest or save your money.

You do have other options, I'm a big fan of Bitcoin but lets to make it seem like Bitcoin is the only way to go and when people don't get what they came for due to the promising things we say online they become disappointed. You can invest your spare money into a personal business. It must not be something big but anything that brings an extra income into your pocket. Investing in Bitcoin should be for long term purpose.
Therefore if you know you'll be in need of the money you want to put Into Bitcoin anytime soon even though they're extras don't invest in Bitcoin as that'll make you to be inpatient and might lead to you withdrawing your investment early while missing out on better gains. You shouldn't only put all your focus on investing extra money in Bitcoin but also consider how urgent will that extra money be needed in future.  You can call money extra now as you have enough but in future when you don't have enough will you be in need of those extra you have invested earlier.
All this should be considered before investing so it doesn't make you pull out of an awesome opportunity that would had change your financial status.
5002  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: December 31 Soccer predictions on: December 31, 2022, 06:47:09 PM
I actually don't pay much attention to taking my time in making  predictions because to be frank, I find it very difficult  and most of my time doing soccer bettings, I mostly trust a friend to doing the betting for me because I trust my friend so much and I feel he is already good at such field.
Some other time, I always use a copy trading feature on my betting app and it also helps me alot because the accuracy and winning rates of a bettor you want to copy from is been analysed and displayed on their profile.
But let me give it a trial this time.

I see arsenal winning or possibly a goal-goal
That's the most I can predict.
5003  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Responsible gambling on: December 31, 2022, 04:19:13 PM
I recently had to go check the responsible gambling feature and I think it's really a very nice idea and concept to help safe more losses and I think if we'll implored one wouldn't have to make more of losses.
I'm also on the opinion that people shouldn't ever chase their losses no matter how painful the  losses  could be.
One of the reasons I think that leads people into chasing of their losses is using money one can't afford to lose and when the result isn't the case with what was expected, at the end one begins to chase loses and end up blowing accounts and making regrets
5004  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Casino bonus is it worth it? on: December 31, 2022, 03:41:04 PM
It is very possible to complete gambling bonuses and also to claim them provided you meet the requirements which just as OP said, it isn't easy and most times it also seems impossible especially when the player is already making so much losses.
Talking about profitability, I reallu don't see it as been profitable especially with regards to the time and effort that would be invested in claiming the bonuses as well as tye emotional entanglement that possibly might be involved because of the consciousness to meet up some certain requirements to claiming the bonus prices.
I personally wouldn't advice anyone to go after trying to claim bonuses unless is a welcome bonus or a Cashback or possibly a deposit bonus but I will be certain to also advice to check the terms associated with those bonuses.
5005  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling For Fun - What Does This Mean To You? on: December 31, 2022, 03:18:02 PM
I thought I was the only one on board this ship and perspective of view towards gambling for fun.
Lately I've read and come across a thread when a poster said something about people just spending more and loving reckless life but I guess that's  only possible after you make a win.
I have always told people that no matter what your intentions are towards gambling, the upmost priority is to make profits and there is always a feeling associated with winning expecially in from either gambling or whatever business one does.
I'm on the affirmative side of OP and I stand with him to agree that, making profit unconsciously without paying attention to your losses is actually gambling for fun.
5006  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What would be an ideal KYC solution? on: December 31, 2022, 02:37:13 PM
Hey guys,

With all the KYC talk lately I wanted to open up a thread and ask about your opinion.

The side of the user:
- Prefers no KYC
- Prefers anon coins as a payment platform
- If a KYC is triggered, they want to trust the brand with their documents

The side of the casino:
- Regulators are asking them to do KYC, but they need to find a balance on when it's triggered. E.g. to keep a portion of the user happy, they can rise the trigger to a certain amount.
- They are tied to a payment provider, either because of the license or CMS, and can offer only a certain portion of cryptocurrency.
- Users are abusing them if there's absolutely no KYC matrix in the system.

What would, in your opinion, be the best balance here?

Efialtis from BTCGosu mentioned that some of the casino managers make exceptions, and I can imagine how that's possible, but I'm curious in what you would like to see there.



Regarding KYC: Their management confirmed with me personally that they would not enforce KYC. (Same old story, we could of course argue about that just like with any curacao licensed crypto casino) - the good news is when I have personal confirmation of such a statement, then I am putting a "No" and if they break their word at any point of time, I would take action. That is how I have always been handling this topic and how I will continue doing it.


I had to quote your entire topic because I do understand whatost of this casinos grow through just to please their customers who most times seem to be really inconsiderate and that isn't always fair.
Most times we the users prefer to beied to rather than accepting tye truth and trying to cop with it, we rather prefer to take short cuts that looks so promising but ends up to failure or destruction.
The moment I see a casino being licensed and duely registered, I always understand that they're automatically under a whole lot of rules and regulations themselves while still trying to please we the users.
Most times I always have to blame the users as people responsible for making this gs difficult for ourselves giving room for criminality in the gambling industry
5007  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏀Sportsbet.io🏀 NBA Predictions and Discussions on: December 30, 2022, 03:18:13 PM
I don't think it's necessary if we have main discussion about NBA sports betting here (I think most predictions posted here are from Sportsbet, stake, Rollbit, Roobet): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5091185.0. Well, it's for the mods to decide if this thread is accepted or not, but should be good thread if it's moderated and can only post predictions here rather than generic responses. Having separate thread for every casinos for sports betting is totally unnecessary.
I strongly agree with you mate because we already have a main discussion thread but from reading OPs post, I guess or see that OP want a thread for discussion of possible gambling and bets on NBA, which is a very nice one and if it's well moderated, to avoid possible spamming of the thread then it's acceptable by me.
But basically, I hardly hear people talk about NBA bettings which I guess is as a result of my locality and the fact that NBA isn't really widely appreciated over herein my local community
5008  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Attributing wins or loses during gambling/betting to Ego or Simply Intuition. on: December 30, 2022, 03:11:46 PM
Regardless of whatever the case might be, there is one thing I try not to do which is staking a bet when I'm not in the right state of mind either too excited or sad or even angry, I always make sure I don't make any bet when I'm in either of this moods.
To answer yur question, I would want to say that I mostly follow predictions and speculations while staking a bet especially when it has to do with soccer betting and this is because I always have to follow more of analysis and ratings and whole lot of other factors has to be put into consideration while making a bet in soccer bettings.
5009  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Betting strategy question on: December 30, 2022, 02:34:22 PM
Personally I will definitely take the bet because I know that betting is risk and the moment I'm out to bet, it's either a win or loss and watching my losses has always been one of my greatest strategy to not chasing my losses.
Most times, the only reason why people get so carried away in betting and later on seem to be addicted is the quest to recover all their losses at a time and that will lead to a greeedy approach and possible loss of funds and blowing of accounts.
Well, the percentage of my capital I would risk in the bet all depends on how much capital I would be having as at the time and one thing I'm certain of is that no matter how much my capital might seem, I will never bet of gamble with money I'm not willing to lose.
So Ir also depends on how much my mind approves of the game.
5010  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit gambling today and lesson i learnt (lost 2000 usd today) on: December 29, 2022, 03:26:21 PM
I think this post is more of a brag rather than even a sympathy because I see no reasons why you should be taking so much pride in winnings.
I really don't like this concept of celebration and this thread also made me remember a thread with a topic that bad advice can also been gotten here and this I feel are also one of the bad advices please psrdon me but I really had to speak up my heart and mind.
The figures you mentioned here are really much and I don't even see myself toying or playing with such amount of money and beside I basically love to gamble with more caution rather than pleasure and I always have a mindset of making money rather than just fun.
5011  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: BANKMAN-FRIED PANIC GAMBLES TO REPAY DEBT on: December 29, 2022, 02:48:46 PM
I wouldn't really say or think of this as a compulsive gambling because nonome is a baby not even SBF  but I think and also agree with you that he has a really bad and negative companies around him because I see no reason why someone in possession of the hard earned money of customers even think of going into gambling if not the friends he has around him.
One thing I've learnt in a very hard way in gambling and also thabof trading is the fact that I will never use money that's not mine or money I can't afford to lose to gamble or even trade because I know of the risk involved and gambling which most times is a game of luck shouldn't be attempted with money one can't afford to lose.
5012  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cashless Gambling, your thought? on: December 29, 2022, 02:32:32 PM
I really don't think this is a nice motion or motive for the regular gamblers but this law will mostly favour tye government and leaving the players and casinos been stranded and scared.
One of the major reasons we have to push for tye use of crypto in casnos and gambling is the fact that government shouldn't be involved in the activities of a common man and if a gambling casino should be cashless, then it should be crypto inspired which would be decentralized with the involvement of a third-party and I think the crypto casinos are already pushing the fiat casinos out of market and I think the government wouldn't easily have a say in the gambling industry.
5013  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Responsible gambling on: December 29, 2022, 02:22:19 PM
I tried talking about this responsible gambling feature but haven't gotten something tangible maybe I guess I wasn't following the thread properly my bad.
I haven't seen anyone accepted to be an addicted gambler not even myself and most times we think we're conscious nof the things we're doing but at the end, we loss money and blow up accounts and just from what you said in the second paragraph, wit all due respect senior, I think it's as a result of greed and most people forget that every win is a win and not necessarily making all the money at a time.
I haven't used the responsible gambling feature but I think it's a really nice feature.
5014  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Betting Types Newbies Should know About on: December 29, 2022, 02:14:43 PM
This is really interesting and you really took your time to explain almost everything to us and the newbies as well.
I recently came across a thread talking about parlay betting and to be frank, that was my first time coming across such type of betting and it was last week from this date.
From my little understanding and research, I think despite the higher odd presented by parlay type of betting, I think there are awhole lots of challenges associated with it and I personally wouldn't want to risk anything that will be determined by another seperate game all together.

There is also a type of gambling and sportbetting that allows a player cashout if the game remains just one and the player isn't sure of the outcome of the match.
Isn't that also a type of gambling
5015  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Responsible gambling on: December 28, 2022, 06:01:46 PM
I haven't come across the responsible gambling feature not even for once and I would want to know what casino do you use and how does this feature really work ?
From the way you said@OP, I think the responsible gambling feature will be a very nice feature and a very helpful one to combact addiction in gambling and to help monitor the spending habit of a player or gambler at a time.
There are lots of things I try as much as possible to combat while gambling and one of them is chasing my loss and what I simply do when ever I begin losing so much, I just take a break and not let my losses get into my head.
5016  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If your friend would tell you this... on: December 28, 2022, 05:54:39 PM
If your friend would tell you hey bud I have 10k in BTC lets try to make it 65k. You play on the casino for me.
How would you play? what would be your game pattren?

Id probably do 1 game of black (20k win) then one game of roullete with 10 numbers = $65k profit.



what would you do

I basically don't know what to say because I will have to know the terms involved and associated with the funds first before making any attempt as we all know that gambling is risky and nothing is assured In the industry.

With that been said, I think staking morenon soccer and possibly just a single match with more odd and be at peace.
I will do more of soccer betting and that's a win win for me because I feel it might be more safer and less risky as compared to every other ones
5017  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Max match & odd in Parlay/Multi on: December 28, 2022, 05:35:55 PM
I haven't had any winningsnon parlay but I've got a friend who won over 9 odds and that was the first time i got so interested in parlay and wanted to give it a trial but I always try to be contented and not get swept off my feet over an enticing win because I know it might get to fabour me or be my field.
How interesting I do see people going doing parlay and I sometimes wonder if I have a wrong conception of parlay which actually implies having more than one wagers and the winnings has to recorded if all the wagers win
5018  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Betting strategy question on: December 28, 2022, 05:03:02 PM
Most times it's not about how much you're losing but rather how much one is expected to win and that's one thing that is fixed on most minds of gamblers.
Answering your first question, I think I will take the bet and I also do believe every gambler would also take the same bet regardless of the risk percentage involved.

And secondly the percentage of my capital to out inside will definitely depend on the available capital I have and one thing I try never to do as a gambler is putting all my gambling capital into just one game, so therefore for every game I go into, I use mostly 30 percentage of my available balance after a win.
5019  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: OneShot Golf on gambling casinos? on: December 28, 2022, 01:32:18 PM
I tried clicking on the link and it's not also available in my country and I had to take my time to watch some videos from their YouTube channel and I find them very interesting but I think the idea and concept behind this game is that of the play to earn but I think if this sportbetting companies can consider adding golf to their platforms, it will be a really nice idea and a welcoming one where players will have to bet on a final score or possibly bet on a winninh player after a match and how well a player plays.
I also noticed it's still a new software game and they're still working on the reach and country acceptance and I hope people would test it out and flgive some feedback
5020  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cock fight game on: December 27, 2022, 10:44:21 PM
Why not call it a ram fight games rather than cock fight games?
Lol just bursting balls. I've watched most of this things online and it isn't strange to me but it's not common in my country if at all it is even present.
I mostly watch this very aggressive cock fights in Vietnamese movies and some Chinese movies and I also had to conclude that those cocks used for those fights and gambling were or are specially trained and most have gone through a whole of training to be trusted by people for a good fight and possibly wins.
I know those environments are not safe and I wouldn't want to stay over at such place for long.
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