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521  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2018 USA Mid Terms! Red or Blue Waves?!? on: October 27, 2018, 06:08:25 AM
Its surreal over here politically for everyone except Trumps core.

Are Republicans actually stupid enough to believe Trump when he tweets that Republicans will protect pre-existing conditions and the dems will destroy it?HuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuh

The Republicans had tried like 70 times to repeal the ACA, there are Republican candidates like Kemp claiming they are going to protect pre-existing conditions while his state and HIM are leading a lawsuit to have the ACA repealed.  Lying Ted is now saying he will protect pre-existing conditions when he was filibustering by reading Dr. fucking Zeus not to long ago and Texas is on the lawsuit to repeal the ACA...

It's kind of cute how Americans were sooooo against Obamacare but once they saw the actual benefit to them the last thing in the world they want right now is to get rid of it...  Go figure people like being healthier who could have imagined that?

Your whole political system is completely and utterly corrupt, I don't mean either party I mean the system as set up is flawed.

What I mean by that is your system is set up as a legalized system of bribery... When corporations and rich individuals buy politicians with large and reoccurring donations it is only logical that the politicians will make decisions that are good for their donors often regardless of the outcome to individual constituents.

If Americans would only ask themselves why were/are the Republicans so against a single pay system when its been proven around the world to work.  Not only does it actually work but it also provides universal health care at almost half the price of the American health care system.  Think about that for one second, you could have universal health care for every American citizen and spend roughly half the public health care dollars currently spent, why is no politician talking about this??  The insurance companies donate to the Republican party no matter how much better a single pay system could be they will never go for it because they will lose hundreds of millions in donations...

522  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2018 USA Mid Terms! Red or Blue Waves?!? on: October 27, 2018, 04:04:52 AM
but I will admit the media fucking loathes Trump, and has been riding his coattails to better ratings). What we haven't seen before is this divorce from reality, this embracing of wild conspiracy and falsehoods because they reinforce the narrative we would like to see. The parts of society that truly believed in the batshit weren't encouraged to have a voice. Social media has been a curse in this regard.

I don't personally consider the media calling out Trumps lies as the "media loathing Trump".  If any other POTUS lied THOUSANDS of times the media would have been "riding their coattails" as well...  I also don't consider fact checking the liar in chief as particularly antagonistic.

He literally made up a 10% tax cut on the lawn in front of Marine 1.  He promised the tax cut before the fucking mid terms, I mean this isn't a little stretch it is literally impossible as congress is on the campaign trail and not in session.

He is on tape describing his preferred method of sexual assault, he is an unnamed co-conspirator in a federal case.

Frankly speaking the fact that Trump was elected in the first place and the fact that soooooo many people believe his blatant lies is the reason why most non Americans believe that primates are more intelligent than the average red neck (MAGA bomber was a genius LOL).

I do agree that unfortunately the conspiracy losers have been a fringe group until recently when twitter/FB etc gives them a voice and Trump gives their moronic ideas credence.

At this point as a non American IMO if your countrymen aren't smart enough to check this lying racist retard with Congress and the Senate then you guys deserve everything Trump does to your country.  TBH with the turn out being up to the level of a Presidential year it could go a lot better for Republicans than the Dems might be thinking.
523  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2018 USA Mid Terms! Red or Blue Waves?!? on: October 26, 2018, 05:10:59 PM
So you don't really believe what you say? Nut up and support your words with actions. Put your money where your mouth is.

There is a difference between what I think will happen and what I am willing to wager will happen...  Sometimes I think the Washington Generals will finally pull out a win but I wouldn't wager on it!!!!!!!

30 or I'll pass thanks.

I get it, you don't really believe what you say. Wink

Oh horse shit, it's an unpredictable future event.  Just because I won't bet you on it doesn't mean I don't think it will happen, odds matter.

Give me 2 to 1 odds and I will take the 35 seat bet!!!

Hey, you are the one that made the statement not me. All I did was call your bluff and put money down. I won't give you 2 to 1 odds, but I will raise it to 0.02 if you like Wink

And you've claimed that the left is running in wild numbers to the right, why don't we bet on the republicans keeping control of the house?  Or don't you believe what you say??  Wink
524  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Explosive devices sent to Bill/Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, George Soros, CNN on: October 26, 2018, 05:02:36 PM

How about we start talking about the guy that incited the right? Trump's a symptom of the propaganda machine, but the buck does stop with the President, in my opinion.



The president is not responsible for this wackos actions, however he is responsible IMO for embracing and encouraging an environment which would give a mentally unstable person the idea that what he was doing was wanted and helpful to America.

Paraphrasing from Les Mis:  The real problem is not the criminal that takes advantage of the darkness but the autocrat who creates the darkness in which the criminal thrives!

Trump is the problem.
525  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2018 USA Mid Terms! Red or Blue Waves?!? on: October 26, 2018, 04:53:47 PM
So you don't really believe what you say? Nut up and support your words with actions. Put your money where your mouth is.

There is a difference between what I think will happen and what I am willing to wager will happen...  Sometimes I think the Washington Generals will finally pull out a win but I wouldn't wager on it!!!!!!!

30 or I'll pass thanks.

I get it, you don't really believe what you say. Wink

Oh horse shit, it's an unpredictable future event.  Just because I won't bet you on it doesn't mean I don't think it will happen, odds matter.

Give me 2 to 1 odds and I will take the 35 seat bet!!!
526  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Explosive devices sent to Bill/Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, George Soros, CNN on: October 26, 2018, 04:26:27 PM
No, of course not! This certainly doesn't turn every conservative into a potential suspect or elicit sympathy for the left casting them as victims as their own REAL violence is increasingly exposed, so very conveniently before mid terms. This doesn't serve the left AT ALL!

I guess this guy was smart enough to carry out a nationwide coordinated attack, all without blowing himself or anyone else up, but he is not smart enough to know that none of these people open their own mail, or that attacking Democrats just before midterms would have a contradictory affect to the ideology he supposedly holds.

It all makes perfect sense! He would have got away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids!  

He definitely isn't smart. Sending a package without getting caught is pretty much impossible, particularly for someone already known to the authorities. He seems to be a registered Republican though and has a history of being a conspiracy nutjob.

Why would he help Democrats?

Did you see his ride?  It was fucking pimped out to the max!  Big surprise a stupid right wing crazy, I wonder if he early voted in the mid terms for "Trump" already LOL!

Can't wait for the alex jones crowd to refute the DNA evidence that is 100% coming LOL.
527  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2018 USA Mid Terms! Red or Blue Waves?!? on: October 26, 2018, 04:21:27 PM
So you don't really believe what you say? Nut up and support your words with actions. Put your money where your mouth is.

There is a difference between what I think will happen and what I am willing to wager will happen...  Sometimes I think the Washington Generals will finally pull out a win but I wouldn't wager on it!!!!!!!

30 or I'll pass thanks.
528  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Explosive devices sent to Bill/Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, George Soros, CNN on: October 26, 2018, 03:46:08 PM
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I don't understand they say they arrested someone but then later in the article say they have 24 teams looking for the culprit?
That is probably because they edited the article in a hurry to report on the news. This has been reported by multiple major news organizations.

Ya everyone is picking it up and reporting on it now, thanks.
529  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2018 USA Mid Terms! Red or Blue Waves?!? on: October 26, 2018, 03:43:17 PM
Early voting is setting records in all kinds of states.  Early voting numbers are basically the same as the 2016 presidential election....

Does that help the dems or republicans?!

Traditionally early voting benefits Democrats, but every thing I have been reading is suggesting is there is potentially record turnout for Republican early voting, so we will see.

People are starting to get wise to the voter shenanigans and want to leave as little potential for fraud as possible by voting early (and more importantly first).

BTW, I will give you one last chance to put money on that "blue wave" Wink

Ya traditionally early and heavy turnout is a good sign for the dems in mid terms.

With the turn out so far being equal to that of a presidential year I don't think it's as good a sign for dems as it would be traditionally.  I think the early turn out isn't really going to tell us much other than people are voting LOL.

I didn't know a wager was on offer!  Define a blue wave, or IOW define the wager and I may be interested.  I'm not interested in a large wager, nothing more than .01BTC but the terms would ultimately dictate how much or if I would wager.

Lets use your own terms.

Dems are picking up 35 seats in the house dude, like it or not!!!  Even if they don't get 35 they will take control of the house!



For reference: Republicans control the U.S. House of Representatives. As of October 2018, the Republican Party was in the majority, holding 235 seats to Democrats' 193 seats, with seven seats being vacant. Democrats will have to take 228 house seats or more for you to win.

I am willing to wager the Democrats will not take 35 additional seats, or more in the house. 0.01 BTC is a reasonable amount. I am willing to leave it to either party to fulfill the wager based on trust if you are, no escrow needed. Do you accept these terms?

I'm not sure I would wager on 35 seats tbh.  I will do +30 seats for the dems so 223 seats for dems or more I win 222 seats or less for dems you win.

No escrow needed bro, lmk if you like my change
530  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Explosive devices sent to Bill/Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, George Soros, CNN on: October 26, 2018, 03:21:13 PM

I don't understand they say they arrested someone but then later in the article say they have 24 teams looking for the culprit?
531  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Explosive devices sent to Bill/Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, George Soros, CNN on: October 26, 2018, 03:11:55 PM
who is playing with the top figures head now ? because to me i see it as another game or conspiracy to be able to get the better part of the country audience, distract and perform the real deal!! so for me am not really focused on what was sent but why was such a display done when its sure to get public awareness!! my Question remains what is the next play card?

The individual has gotten the first result
next!! should be what every security agencies should be anticipating

You make a very good point. In the security field this kind of behavior could be characterized as "probing" or eliciting a false alarm. It usually serves 2 main functions. To desensitize the targets/security forces for an actual attack in the hope that they will treat it carelessly next time, and to observe the response of the security forces to the act. Again the narrative is not yet clear, but this could be some type of probing here. That would suggest that there are bigger things to come.

They found 2 more packages today.

With 12 devices intact and at Quantico there is a treasure trove of evidence for the FBI to asses.  Electrical tape is a fucking magnet for DNA lol.  

By mailing these things and the devices not going off there is going to be soooooo much evidence that they are going to catch this guy/s.

When they do catch him/them they will face 30 years in prison for each package sent if convicted.  IOW when they get these nut jobs and convict them they will spend the rest of their lives in jail.

Authorities have made an arrest in relation to this.

We will probably find out his political affiliations soon and potentially his motives.

Sauce??
532  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2018 USA Mid Terms! Red or Blue Waves?!? on: October 26, 2018, 02:58:29 PM
Early voting is setting records in all kinds of states.  Early voting numbers are basically the same as the 2016 presidential election....

Does that help the dems or republicans?!

Traditionally early voting benefits Democrats, but every thing I have been reading is suggesting is there is potentially record turnout for Republican early voting, so we will see.

People are starting to get wise to the voter shenanigans and want to leave as little potential for fraud as possible by voting early (and more importantly first).

BTW, I will give you one last chance to put money on that "blue wave" Wink

Ya traditionally early and heavy turnout is a good sign for the dems in mid terms.

With the turn out so far being equal to that of a presidential year I don't think it's as good a sign for dems as it would be traditionally.  I think the early turn out isn't really going to tell us much other than people are voting LOL.

I didn't know a wager was on offer!  Define a blue wave, or IOW define the wager and I may be interested.  I'm not interested in a large wager, nothing more than .01BTC but the terms would ultimately dictate how much or if I would wager.
533  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2018 USA Mid Terms! Red or Blue Waves?!? on: October 26, 2018, 12:41:06 PM
Early voting is setting records in all kinds of states.  Early voting numbers are basically the same as the 2016 presidential election....

Does that help the dems or republicans?!
534  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Should UBI Replace all Welfare Systems? on: October 26, 2018, 12:37:21 PM
Let me break down in some very simple terms why UBI is bad.

With the government being in charge of handing out the resources that people would need to live under UBI, you immediately create a conflict of interest. The people will always vote for more "free" stuff, and the politicians, not being the ones to personally foot the bill pander to them and hand out more free stuff. A cycle of dependence is created on both sides as people vote for more free stuff and politicians hand out more and more to buy votes using our own money. Also what happens if they decide you aren't worthy of being supported any more? Now the government has the power to cut off your income. Furthermore money for nothing will pervert market signaling and create inflation and scarcity of the most in demand products, essentially bringing us full circle right back to where we started with haves and have nots.

UBI is simply just rebranded Socialism/Communism. There is no such thing as a free lunch. Don't ever forget it.

I almost fell over when I read this... because I agree with it LOL.

The VAST majority of able bodied people want to work, society needs to look at shaping the environment to incentivize working.  I don't see how UBI accomplishes that.  Wage disparity is the problem currently, blue collar wages are not competitive anymore and UBI doesn't address that in any way.
535  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Explosive devices sent to Bill/Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, George Soros, CNN on: October 25, 2018, 12:37:12 PM
I would say shame on those in this thread who are attempting to politicize this act of terrorism.  

You should tell that to your pussy grabbing megalomaniac who doubled down on his attack on the media today on twitter.

Why did you only quote the shameful politicizing by those of us on the left?  I guess calling it a false flag isn't politicizing it because it helps Trump, LOL fucking hypocrite.

Even Trump had the self-awareness to not go full retard before all facts are known.

Well that lasted only a few hours LOL, Trump is back and blaming this now on the media!
536  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Explosive devices sent to Bill/Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, George Soros, CNN on: October 24, 2018, 06:05:14 PM
This just hit the news all over the place

Explosive Devices Sent to Clintons, Obama and CNN
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/24/nyregion/clinton-obama-explosive-device.html

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Explosive devices were sent to former President Barack Obama and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, as well as to CNN’s offices in New York, sparking an intense investigation on Wednesday into whether a bomber is going after targets that have often been the subject of right-wing ire.

A law enforcement official said the three devices were similar to one found Monday at the home of George Soros, the billionaire philanthropist and liberal donor who has come under fierce criticism from conservatives and conspiracy theorists.

None of the devices harmed anyone. Law enforcement officials said they were investigating whether all the devices were sent by the same person or persons.

Mrs. Clinton, Mr. Obama, Mr. Soros and CNN have all figured prominently in the pantheon of conservative political attacks — many of which have been led by President Trump. He has often referred to major news organizations as “the enemy of the people,” and has had a particular animus for CNN.

The right wing is just doing what Trump wants, the mob and journalists are the enemy of the people and they must be terrorized by Trumps base!

It's more now, CNN got one and I thought I just heard Holder got one as well...  Looks like it's more than that even, I just heard a report of 7 packages delivered to people that Trump has attacked on Twitter and in his rallies...

Fucking right wing nut jobs or IOW Trump NATIONALISTS!!!!!!!!!!!

Republicans produce terrorists, democrats produce affordable health care!
537  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Shoot The Shit About American Politics on: October 23, 2018, 04:40:03 PM
Congratulations middle class Americans you guys are getting a 10% tax cut before the mid terms.  That means within the next 2 weeks Trump is going to get new tax legislation through the house (the house isn't even in session until after the mid terms...).

More unprecedented lies from your pussy grabbing megalomaniac!!
538  Economy / Services / Re: KROGOTHMANHATTAN ESCROW SERVICE on: October 23, 2018, 12:52:44 AM
Love the signature bro.  Good luck with your service, I'm sure your customers will be happy and safe!
539  Other / Meta / Re: Gag Order? Trump's a Russian Agent on: October 23, 2018, 12:30:34 AM




One liners and a link are acceptable topic starters in politics and off topic but with serious discussion and Ivory tower more is expected.



One liners and a link are not generally acceptable topic starters in P&S.  The OP also has several Trump/GOP/Conspiracy threads already along with even more threads discussing Trump and American Politics specifically, including a "shoot the shit" mega thread.

If a thread like that is reported I will evaluate it and remove, leave or move it if necessary case by case.  P&S isn't twitter...

I don't always see every post or every thread.

As mentioned I am an equal opportunity troll censor!!!!!!!!
540  Other / Meta / Re: Gag Order? Trump's a Russian Agent on: October 22, 2018, 10:05:01 PM
._.

I mean, if that sort of subject doesn't belong in society/politics, where does it go? obviously not the other two places, which you'd think "president of a nation committing treason = pretty serious stuff", but 'LOLOLOL, DIS JUST TRUMP BROOOO!' trolls kinda derail the conversation.

Trump is a Russian agent
LINK

The above is a shit thread and does not belong in the P&S board. The above is more of an advertisement also I don't need you to point out every fucking link on the web I can search them myself.  


There's plenty of evidence to be collaborated and such, really, a self-moderated topic would probably be more effective, but it's kinda annoying having to be a fair moderator.

Self moderating threads isn't a free pass to post whatever you want.  A self moderated shit thread is still getting deleted by me.  Self moderated threads don't have to have fair moderation either.

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I suppose fixing this shit would be just remaking a post, including several links, which I believe I've done in ivory tower (but were deleted, so my work was gone, so I said fuck it all for a while for 'freedom of speech on private platforms').

It's just annoying overall having to retype paragraphs paraphrasing other sources. I might as well just publish to my own platform.

You think it isn't annoying having to respond to snowflakes who cry conspiracy theory and censorship like mental midgets?

If putting effort into your posts in annoying then perhaps a forum isn't the best venue for you?  If you just want to throw around links head on over to twitter or facebook and interact with a bunch of other like minded individuals and pass around links till your have your fill of them.  There is no 140 character limit here for a reason!
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