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How many coins can I earn on your pool with about 30 KH/s?
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So we have to pay $100 for a single coin that we won't be able to spend anywhere? Or am I missing something?
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they do make a diff. Namely, the 2GB would consume more power.
That is a very good point. Does anybody have an idea of how much more power that extra GB consumes? |
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Yes, I realize the numbers we're throwing around here aren't very precise. One quarter worth of sales, sure. 9TH worth of hashing power at the moment, down from around 16TH earlier last year.
Wait a sec, I just realized something: None of this is relevant to anything. I'm still wanting news about Fermi.
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This. In Q4 2010 AMD sold 7.5 million discrete GPUs (physical cards). 7.5 million discrete GPU in one QUARTER. When you include laptop GPUs, integrated GPU, and GPUs on CPU (APU) it is more like 60 million units annually.
The Bitcoin network is ~9 TH. Even if we exclude all NVidia cards, botnets, CPU miners, and FPGAs that is only 20,000 to 50,000 "average" GPUs. Tens of thousands vs 60 million. Say the network grew 1000% (90TH) we still represent <1% of units sold. I dunno, DaT. I think there's some confusion in those big numbers. Nobody really mines on laptops or with integrated GPUs in any significant numbers or hash rates, so we can discount the additional 60 million units (although it does make for a sensational number!). Furthermore, I think you're lumping together AMD's commercial and business units to arrive at that 7.5 million figure. For the sake of simplicity let's just say it's 50/50 for the ratio of consumer to business units. So that further pares the number down to 3.75 million. Now out of the 3.75 million discrete cards (a pool where most miners reside in), how many of those are considered gaming cards? I'm talking about 57XX, 58XX, and 5970 cards where a large portion of network hashing power comes from. I'm guessing maybe 10% of those 3.75 million consumer cards were actually 57xx/58XX/5970s. But let's be generous and call it 30%... That's still 1.125 million 57XX, 58XX and 5970 units. If your estimation of 20k-50k units are correct for the number of miners, we can go with the lower end of the scale to discount the non-57XX/58XX/5970 cards. Doing a quick number crunch that comes out to 1.78% of all of ATI's gaming GPUs being bought up for mining. That's quite a significant number and anything but a "drop in the ocean". |
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I think you've overestimated the size of the mining community. We're a drop of water in the ocean compared to cards bought for gaming.
I do hope we eventually matter enough to AMD so that they'll spend a few hours and fix their drivers, though. I think you underestimate the number of cards bought for mining, and the number of cards that were bought for gaming which also happen to be used for mining. Otherwise AMD wouldn't have put us miners as a bullet item in their product announcement if we were just a drop in the ocean: http://www.amd.com/US/PRODUCTS/DESKTOP/GRAPHICS/7000/7950/Pages/radeon-7950.aspx (5th bullet down). |
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1GB and 2GB makes no diff for mining lol Wrd. Still that's really tempting to pick up a couple to play BF3 with. I already have a 5970 for that though, so I dunno. Hmm... |
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I'm guessing gaming performance will have 100x more impact than mining performance on market pricing.
I don't think either has any relation to market pricing. That's set by the bean-counters. AMD's competing models have more influence on nVidia pricing (and vise versa) than anything else. |
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they went up from $140
Fixed it for you  Edit: Nvm, the $140 ones were only 1GB. These new ones are 2GB. |
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Has anybody heard anything about the new nVidia cards? Are they any good at hashing? At the very least I hope they seriously undercut the top end 79XXs so that AMD is forced to lower their prices to remain competitive  |
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Ok I read that thread, and from what I gather it's some kind of contest inspired by the glut of reality-TV programs out there right now. Is this something that's going to be broadcast on Youtube, or how exactly does this work?
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Just got out of class on my way to gym (on my phone) will send repayment when I get home. Cheers
What happened? Are you still at the gym?  Payments?   Probably had to go tanning and do laundry bro. |
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Ok, this is probably a long shot, but I'm selling new and unopened Mac LipGlass in Oyster Girl and Nymphette. I bought these last year to replace ones I thought I had lost, but now it's too late to return them. My loss is your gain! Both tubes retail for around $14-15/ea but I will let both go for 3 BTC shipped. OR do a straight trade -- both tubes for MAC Viva Glam Gaga (discontinued).
Or will trade for a couple PCIe extenders I guess.
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The prices are per card, FYI.
Good save. |
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...you have just said "razor blades" in an Australian accent |
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Well the double GPU are never double performance. They are scaled back in VRM, chip quality, and clock speeds. 5870 aggressively clocked can hit 430 MH/W. 5970 aggressively clocked can hit 760 MH/W. Still even at 1.0GH/s for $850 is $0.85 per MH which isn't comparable. Granted 7970/7990 have higher MH/W but 5970 still reigns (as long as you can still find them ) on the MH/$. 760 MH/S @ $400 = $0.52 per MH. 760 MH/S @ $300 (used) = $0.39 per MH. Oh wrd, aggressively clocked, the 5970 is still king of the MH/$ title. I was thinking more about how I run my 5970 during the day, at 550 MH/s (887mv, 605/200MHz). So comparing that to a theoretical 7990 doing 1.1GH/s, the MH/$ are more similar, especially given the current market price of a new 5970. |
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The list price is $849.
If a undervolted 7970 does 550 MH/s, a dialed-back 7990 should probably hit 1.1 GH/s and be even more efficient. That would put it into 5970 territory for MH/$  |
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From the article (translated), CeBIT starts 6th of March, 2012. I guess that gives me more time to save up |
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I want to be able to run BF3 in Ultra settings across 3 screens at 200fps! When do these things come out???
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Maybe they actually meant "fourty-six weeks"?
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