Provided your doing your due diligence

Keep up the good work.

Too true Chaang.

While the handling of this by Gox is less than stellar I share part of the blame for not backing up my 2FA keys.
Another valuable lessoned learned at a fairly cheap price

I suspect as much myself, but has this been proven and was it a condition of the bet that the recipient provide indisputable proof such as delivery invoice ?

hello, may I suggest that you have a trusted AV Vendor do a report on your clients exe, it will set most users mind to ease.
Also, if you do not already you should have hashes of the client download file so users can confirmed it has not been tampered with.

I love poker, will try and set up an account tonight, was on seals for the first time in 3 months last night

Yes, unfortunately when looking @ the dictionary definition while shipping an item original meant literally "by ship" it now means to deliver.
Im no Judge Judy but LukeJr could go and wait at the receptionists while Soony waddles out with his parcel and hand deliver it to him and it would still be considered "shipped".



Captain Hindsight tells me that

* delivered via courier to a recipient's postal address/place of work/home

should have been one of the bet conditions.

Yes, its part of their history now and all future players need to know how the operators of both sites handled resolving a vague bet.

GOX has the best rates the best for selling btc and sending AUD to an AU bank account, they only charge $10 aud for the transfer (for any amount). Id recommend anyone in Australia to use MTGox for putting funds into their bank account.

Also I love their android app for trading

The other exchanges I also use are:

bitnz.com - AU citizens can have NZ bank accounts, so I built up about 5k NZD just from catching the bounces, keeping that for a nice holiday for myself.
btc-e.com (love the trollbox, registering OKpay to do my withdrawls).

Is this list verified ? last thing we need to be doing is attacking innocent people in all of this.

Simple enough, post the song,music video that puts a smile back on your face:

Monty Python - Always Look on the Bright Side of Life

I mean, what have you got to lose?
You know, you come from nothing
You're going back to nothing
What have you lost? Nothing!

he Proclaimers - I'm On My Way

I do, its very short:

* bitcoin

that is all.

DONT DO IT

The headaches Im seeing recently from the betsofbitco.in and bitbet.us fiasco's is crazy.

Site Operators:
* Start being more responsible if you wish to host these obscure wagers.
* Ensure the bet can be verified without questions being raised.

Players:
* Treat wagers like contract (which they basically are). If unsure of the wording request clarification and that the clarification be attached to the original wager for all to see.
* If you cannot get clarification DONT BET.


How these bets could have been handled better.

Betsofbitco.in should have selected X amount of trusted members who had BFL orders, any of them could able to provide photo and shipping reciept on recieval to confirm the bet.  Also the shipping method should have been specified and it should have required a scanned copy of the shipping invoice to verify it was indeed shipped and not an empty shoebox.

bitbet.us - This site hosts a bet about perfomance specifications and fails to quote them anywhere meaning we have to rely on the most recent figures released by BFL before the bet was made. How easy is it to cite your sources ?, really unprofessional.

Bolded the important part in red those like MrPOO-ER who have obvious reading disabilities.

Addressing the lies in this thread:


Oh really, quote me one time where I lied.

Im quoting one of your lies right now you lying piece of shit.

Nope, its why I striked them out of the list until I felt the matter was resolved after hearing from all parties involved. They now have a permanent asterix next to their name as does bitbet.us.

Lying again, you were caught out ripping off clients on your own site - this is why your spending so much time here trying to fling shit on betsofbitco.in.


Wow, you really are delusional arent you.


Provide quotes or again prove  that you are a liar.

That is a very apt description of yourself, my what a warped twisted mind you have.

Unlike yourself I have been asking for citations the entire time, Im used to dealing with liars like yourself - its why I cant operate on what 1 player claims, I need proof.

Im here for the long haul Keep trying your best to destroy my character by lying about me.


What true facts, where is this summary you claim and links and quotes to back it up.

The decision has already been made, dont like it email me with your reasoned argument.

Quoting that racist scammer MPO-ER is not doing you any favours.

Added bitbet.us and noted the site is potentially a scam.
The site will remain scored out in my list due to being operated by the racist business MPEx.

bitbet.us

฿0.100

฿?

Bet on anything

฿0.100

฿∞

* Admin is an outspoken racistRacism * Site operator potentially involved in bet scam Admin is a turd on the forums MrPOO-ER.

Unscored the betsofbitco.in entry but I shall leave the asterix against its name.
I do not see any scam here, just a very poor decision by the site operator to allow a vague bet description.

So what happens is yes, my orders do get frozen then dropped onto the market.

Fortunately I have confirmed with mtgox that should I have a buy order set at $88 (which I did)
and the current price were say $82, Id start paying for bitcoins at $82 UP TO $88 until my order volume was filled.

Given Im down to the 0.2% trade fees on mtgox this is not going to hurt me nearly as much as I expected.
In fact given my recent luck catching the floor again @ $88 Id safely say I can absorb the small loss if any

Other people that lock themselves out may find this info useful

Yer it worked out better than I hoped, I managed to catch a drop to $88 with the bulk of my funds and resell @ 20% profit

Ignore MrPOO-ER guys and girls, he thinks he can find misery in the forums but doesn't realize it follows him everywhere.   

What Blazen said.

Its true, Ive run several ISP's in my time and also acted as level 3 tech support.
Remember back when everyone was on dialup and you could only stay connected if enough lines were free ? Thats when I got started.

Anyway, if you rang up one of my level 1s or me and was extremely rude (ie yelling and swearing about disconnections) over the phone Id quietly add you to my "shitlist". My shitlist was part of my home made auto disconnection script, it would always ensure your account was booted at the earliest possibility when the modem banks were full and if you were a real shit you went to the 2nd shit list in which Id trigger the cisco to randomly hang up your modem and log false line errors for your connection

I can just picture Josh doing a "pressed ham" on every bitchy customers invoice slip, be warned.

Hello Josh, thank you for weighing in here.

So they rejected a bet where the power was specified as part of (or not part of) the performance in favour of a misleading bet that would potentially confuse users. Sounds like a scam to me.


Not surprising in the least, when arrogant racism is one of your core defining traits like MPEx then you cant expect many good (if any) personal traits.

bitbet.us should have followed betsofbitco.in's example and rulled the bet invalid.
Its my firm opinion if the result is open to interpretation then it should automatically be ruled a draw.
Site operators like MPEx should spend less time typing up their racist rants and more time ensuring the quality of their sites bets.

Please PM me with any further details, I shall also be monitoring this  thread periodically.