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581  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: 105 Gh/s ASIC miner: Redhash by TAV. IN STOCK NOW! on: October 08, 2013, 08:46:16 PM
Got my Redhash unit yesterday. I chose to use my own power supply and was in shock that my Trusty Antec 850 watt was inadequate to power the unit clocked at 328mhz per chip. It would shut down. At 300mhz or below it was fine. I swapped in my main rigs TR 1200 watt and no problems. Kill-A-Watt EZ Plug Power Meter shows 979 watts

How have your redhash units behaved with your own supplied power supplies?

Interesting... I measured mine at the wall at 953 watt with the default clocking. I wondered how an 850 watt power supply could do that???

The rating is for DC power delivered.  The supply itself consumes power as unavoidable losses, and the wall power is the sum of the two.
582  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon 55nm ASIC open source design contest on: October 08, 2013, 05:23:38 PM
Why anyone would support their efforts for an open source design contest after they pretty much ruined the momentum with fraudulent behaviour is beyond me. Close the thread and stop giving Avalon cover and a means to rehabilitate their brand. Let them clean up the mess the right way. REPAY those DIYers they screwed with some free 2nd Gen chips. Sorry but there are still people pretty screwed up financially because of what they have done. It is really in bad form to even entertain their offer. They have not properly explained why those chips never made it to the right owners on time and to be honest it ruined the mood of community for future DIY projects. Suggest we ignore them entirely. They got 3 pretty good designs from 3 pretty good designers and they crapped on them. Sorry they don't deserve support from the DIY community at all.



When I bought my Batch #2 Avalon, the delivery was estimated for mid March, and the earnings were projected to be $16,000 the first month.  My wife has Alzheimer's, that anticipated money played a large role in my plans;  I have a personal familiarity with the failed hopes surrounding Avalon.

If the continuing negative posts discourage everyone else from entering the contest, I stand to win the contest as the only entrant, but it is dishonorable for me to pursue that approach and I ask you not to bash Avalon in this thread.  With a lot of free chips, I can sell miners that will make break-even for my customers.  If I fail to win, I still have the design.  I have done a previous DIY microprocessor design.  I did it without asking anyone what they would want it to do.  This time I thought I would ask first.

You have the option to be so angry with Avalon that you wouldn't take a life jacket from them if you were drowning.  I think my karate training tells me to approach every attack with an empty mind, and to find where it gives the advantage to me.

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Again, if you could ask for certain things in a design based on a small number of chips, what would it be?

WiFi?
LAN?
USB?

Fan or No moving parts?

Separate assemblies for chip and voltage regulator, to allow stacking?

Daughter board for TP-Link 703n style controller, or custom CPU & system?

583  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon ASIC users thread on: October 08, 2013, 04:53:50 PM

i would have thought this impossible...

how much did u pay for your b2 module?

also where did you source your sensor/s?

I bought the b2 module as damaged, not working, for BTC 2.5.  It has 5 of 8 sub-assemblies working.   Two capacitors and almost all chips in the first sub-assembly are destroyed, and the 1st plug on the header strip seems to be dead.

I don't actually have a sensor in place.  I need to know the connector part number that connects it to the controller, or find a vendor.  I bought an AC desk fan and have it plugged in, and I am hashing at 256 MHz, to avoid overheating.



584  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon 55nm ASIC open source design contest on: October 08, 2013, 04:44:05 PM
I dont even understand why OP make this thread.

I lost respect if he indeed support Avalon in ANYWAY.

Time for US to learn how Chinese work. Eventually they will fuck all the western countries. Yeah keep pushing production over China....


I am prepared to put my own time into a design.  It is entirely at my own risk.  This thread is an opportunity for people to say what they would like.  The design concepts can be carried to other chips, and are not Avalon specific.

Do you want a small, 1 chip, affordable unit?
Do you want the units to be expandable?
Do you think the ability to directly mine bitcoins is valuable, in case it becomes very difficult to buy them?

If I do make a successful design, you will not be buying from Avalon, but from me. 

585  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon ASIC users thread on: October 08, 2013, 11:03:06 AM

Where can I order some already made up?
586  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon ASIC users thread on: October 08, 2013, 05:34:28 AM
awesome!

i had not considered the extra temp sensor requirements. do the b2s even have the space for extra sensor/s?

what PSU are using to power the 4 modules as i assume your rigs came with the 850

i currently o/c mine to 355Mhz but without upgrading the PSU i would have to u/c them to prevent any damage.

as much as i want to upgrade its looking like a totally cost ineffective endeavour.

perhaps teh lulz/science will have to be enough of a reason...

I did not consider the extra temp sensor requirements either.  The fans won't spin up without them.  It turns out that the wires go into a glob of silicone on the heat sink.

I used the 850 for several weeks, on --avalon-auto.  The frequency stabilized about 355.  It drew about 1030 W from the wall.  I recently replaced it with an ocz zx 1250 and now it only draws 1000 W.  This power supply is a little taller when installed, and the mounting screw for the top plate above the power supply won't fit.  The phrase "whisper quiet" really fits this power supply.

No one knows the future.  Some investors may liquidate their mining farm when it is only making 20% annualized ROI, or people may move end-of-profitable equipment to mine Bytecoin.  I figure I can sell the OCZ for a good price on eBay a year from now.  It also gets -20°F here, so the waste heat has monetary value.  I almost held onto my BTC for HashFast or that startup in Austin, but I thought having a nice, upscale 4 module batch 4 would be cool.  Or FinCEN may start busting unregistered miners next week.



587  Other / Meta / Re: Is the Government Done Hacking the Forums? on: October 08, 2013, 02:44:33 AM
DDoS on exchanges may be in their MO, as evidenced by a cluster of (DDoS, bank account closings, and legal action, calendar time) against unlicensed BTC exchanges.

DDoS doesn't really fit either. The ultimate goal from a LE point of view is enforce laws and make arrests, just pissing at a sight doesn't really satisfy these.

When one service goes down from an attack I'd immediately look at the competing services in that market space.

I pretty much agree with you about the LE focus.  However, I don't see an explanation for the DDoS attacks on Mt. Gox & bitfloor the week before bitfloor got notification from their bank and Mt. Gox ran into complications with USD transfers.  Was there a 3rd DDoS attack in early April?
588  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If they do, when will the FBI announce to sell their alledged 600k BTC stash? on: October 08, 2013, 02:15:35 AM
The protective order obligates them to hold them until the civil complaint has been determined.  In real terms, that means until it's been established - either by trial or by a plea - that any of the offences which allow confiscation of the assets (including the BTC) have been committed.

The spokesperson said that they would "probably" liquidate the seized BTC.  They could, of course, fake the sale and hold onto all of them for use in future law enforcement operations.

If they are sold, it will likely be by public auction and not some method which allows purchasers to remain anonymous.

Perhaps they would like for an exchange to be legal and operational. 
589  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon ASIC users thread on: October 08, 2013, 02:04:52 AM

i recall a thread where someone combined a broken avalon with a 3 module rig to make a 4 module rig, anyone recall this?


Several people have done this.

do you have any of he links, professor?



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=253861.msg2703403#msg2703403

I have configured one machine as a 3 module Batch #2 unit with a 4th module from batch #3 and a custom ribbon cable.  It has been operational this way for weeks.
I bought Luke Stokes's Batch #3 case, controller, and TP-Link, and 1 damaged module, then bought a batch #2 PDU and controller, and I am running it with an external fan and partial capability on the damaged module.

This week, I bought a Batch #2 upgrade module.  When it and the temperature sensors arrive, I will have a 4 module all Avalon batch #2 machine, and a Frankenstein batch #3 machine.
590  Other / Meta / Re: Is the Government Done Hacking the Forums? on: October 08, 2013, 01:28:32 AM
99% chance this was a Gov op . There is no such thing as coincidences,,Fairy farts or Unicorns ...... Have you guys been living under a rock for the past year? Have you seen or read what our government has been doing lately? This Forum held a treasure trove of information about Bitcoin users and what they are up to. This is just the beginning of the Governments New War on BitCoin and Crypto. The "Hole Seekers" are just another NSA asset.

It isn't their MO.  Their MO is what they did on SR.  The logged in as a user under cover, they copied the whole thing so they could analyze it in their own lab, and when they were ready they seized the site.  There was never a defacement & inconvenience phase.

DDoS on exchanges may be in their MO, as evidenced by a cluster of (DDoS, bank account closings, and legal action, calendar time) against unlicensed BTC exchanges.

591  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: YIFU IS AUCTIONNING? on: October 08, 2013, 01:20:38 AM
I bought a 4th module for my Batch #2 Avalon yesterday.  I have a DHL tracking number at this time.


how did you manage that?

Not speaking for ProfMac, but you can order them here, apparently:

http://avalon-asics.com/shop/


Yes, there, at BTC 4.2.

I am assuming that the 55 nm chips will directly replace the 110 nm chips, at significantly less power draw and significantly more hashing power.  I don't know if it is feasible to swap the chips out on the existing miners,
but that is influencing my decision. 

This calculator says I will not make breakeven.   I don't really know what parameters are realistic to put into it.


Now that Avalon has released the specifications for the new chip we know that it is not pin compatible.
No chance of directly replacing the old chips with the new ones. I don't understand why they didn't make it pin compatible.
   

I haven't audited the pin-outs.  I do note that one of the voltages is 0.9 V, and I assume that can be handled rather easily with the specification of a few resistors in a voltage divider.  Is there a pin with a deeper incompatibility?

592  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon 55nm ASIC open source design contest on: October 08, 2013, 12:41:43 AM
I would think that burnin could submit a slightly modified version of his design and win quit easily.
The Bitburner XX design is a good one and it's all ready done.
 
 

Burnin has done an outstanding job, and it would be very satisfying if he won the chips.

However, there must be at least 3 ways that his, or anyone's, design concept could be improved. 
593  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon ASIC users thread on: October 07, 2013, 10:32:40 PM

i recall a thread where someone combined a broken avalon with a 3 module rig to make a 4 module rig, anyone recall this?


Several people have done this.
594  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon 55nm ASIC open source design contest on: October 07, 2013, 09:43:09 PM
Avalon has announced a design contest.

The timeline is very compressed.  I thought this would be a good place to gather any thoughts that potential customers have for design elements, and any comments that other designers / contestants have to make.

The break-even time matters as well.  More cool features cost design delay and component cost.  A URL for a pre-populated calculator might help the designers decide whether to push an adequate design out now, or spend more time cutting costs.

The only design element that is fixed is the 55 nm Avalon ASIC chip.  Everything else is designer's discretion.

This is a self-moderated thread.  Please stay civil and on topic.

The chip is specified as 1 GH/s @ 2.05 W with 128 Hash units on the chip.

I have not noticed any pricing information.  You might want to submit a URL for a profit calculator that will suggest the time to break even that you consider realistic.


Even with a 5,000 x 55nm chip prize I think Avalon will have issues attracting participants.  Why?   Because they are not honorable business people.  They have been negligent and dishonest.  If I could design PCB, I might do this...but I am looking this from a 3rd person perspective.

I have applied to be a participant, and I have been accepted.  This puts me into a conflict of interest situation if I trash talk Avalon and actively discourage other entrants.  So again, please, stay on topic in this thread.


595  Bitcoin / Hardware / Avalon 55nm ASIC open source design contest on: October 07, 2013, 09:30:25 PM
Avalon has announced a design contest.

The timeline is very compressed.  I thought this would be a good place to gather any thoughts that potential customers have for design elements, and any comments that other designers / contestants have to make.

The break-even time matters as well.  More cool features cost design delay and component cost.  A URL for a pre-populated calculator might help the designers decide whether to push an adequate design out now, or spend more time cutting costs.

The only design element that is fixed is the 55 nm Avalon ASIC chip.  Everything else is designer's discretion.

This is a self-moderated thread.  Please stay civil and on topic.

The chip is specified as 1 GH/s @ 2.05 W with 128 Hash units on the chip.

I have not noticed any pricing information.  You might want to submit a URL for a profit calculator that will suggest the time to break even that you consider realistic.
596  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: YIFU IS AUCTIONNING? on: October 07, 2013, 07:55:20 PM
I bought a 4th module for my Batch #2 Avalon yesterday.  I have a DHL tracking number at this time.


how did you manage that?

Not speaking for ProfMac, but you can order them here, apparently:

http://avalon-asics.com/shop/


Yes, there, at BTC 4.2.

I am assuming that the 55 nm chips will directly replace the 110 nm chips, at significantly less power draw and significantly more hashing power.  I don't know if it is feasible to swap the chips out on the existing miners,
but that is influencing my decision. 

This calculator says I will not make breakeven.   I don't really know what parameters are realistic to put into it.

597  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: YIFU IS AUCTIONNING? on: October 07, 2013, 05:55:21 PM
I bought a 4th module for my Batch #2 Avalon yesterday.  I have a DHL tracking number at this time.
598  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon ASIC users thread on: October 07, 2013, 11:46:43 AM
Anyone more than me that took the hassle of signing up at tradehill?
avalon, what a joke, b3 4 90GH units for 16btc, and avalon mini 2 board (oc'd to 375mhz) 60GH unit 9btc.
Luckily , they have hundreds of units. so far i can only see one mini that has the 9btc bid.
If they put up some reasonable prices ok..

As long as the units are on hand that's not too bad. ButterFly 60GH units that people have on hand generally go bout 2k to 2.5k or about 14BTC here in Toronto, ON, Canada. If they aren't on hand units and you have to wait 8 months to a year to receive them then yes your right! Smiley



They are all in stock on hand. to be shipped 24hrs after auction end on the 10th of october. but overpriced imo..

Auctions have a paradox.  Items that have a lower starting bid fetch higher prices.  He started too high.  He should have started with no minimum bid.

599  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon ASIC users thread on: October 07, 2013, 11:30:01 AM
Anyone more than me that took the hassle of signing up at tradehill?
avalon, what a joke, b3 4 90GH units for 16btc, and avalon mini 2 board (oc'd to 375mhz) 60GH unit 9btc.
Luckily , they have hundreds of units. so far i can only see one mini that has the 9btc bid.
If they put up some reasonable prices ok..

I signed up.
600  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: Avalon ASIC Batch #2 Income Sharing; arrived and hashing on: October 02, 2013, 11:24:33 PM
Thunderstorm with hail & lightening.
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