How big is the project? If you have a limited budget on 20BTC, we'll need to know how much we are taking on.
What is the project about? You are talking about Java and etc. experience.
It sounds like a big project with not enough money to cover it.
The project will be several megabytes sizewise  It would need to have various implementations of Bitcoin functionality like sending and receiving funds build into it, but it's all open source stuff. The initial set up of a basically functional site for the 3 or 4 functions I need it to do will be fine. After that, upgrades, maintenance, etc. would be negotiated separately, and if it does well, there will be better pay down the line. What the project is about will be covered after the NDA is signed. It's a medium project with not enough money to cover it I'm not cheap, just can't afford to sink that much into it yet. Hope this helps. Anybody else interested, please PM me. |
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If you're talking about a small budget (~$400) and are asking for someone with the kind of experience you're indicating...that's generally considered a red flag for a problem client.
If you're also demanding an NDA for a 'small project', the paranoia indicated is another 'red flag' -- generally people who try to hard to cover their asses always feel like they're getting ripped off.
Top that off with, 'If you post here, I'll know you're illiterate', and seriously...I hope you don't think you're actually going to get a reputable, capable developer.
I'm not trying to troll or flame here, but I think you need to reconsider your approach to getting this project done.
1.) Small budget - yes. It is expected to increase over time once the site gets the basics up and running for maintenance and improvements. If I had more BTC to offer, I would. 2.) PHP and javascript experience is cheap in my experience... it's the knowledge of BTC that adds value for me vs. something like scriptlance/outsourcing to India 3.) In my general line of business practices, NDAs are standard for every part of the work I do for others and they do for me; refusal to sign an NDA is generally a red flag for me as a client 4.) Hoping to get a capable, and literate developer. Reputable is nice, but capable of doing the work and following basic instructions (eg where to contact me) are more important to me. 5.) No worries - appreciate the feedback. |
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Your obvious trolling aside, I have made my points clear. Those who needed to hear them have.
I really cant make my case any stronger so I leave it up to the developers to consider what I have said.
In the end, the customer is always paying the transaction fees. Bitcoin, by it's nature, just makes that explicit. I can't see any way to hide the cost of transactions from the sender anyway. I wouldn't bother moonshadow. This is a person who is interested in a decentralized cryptocurrency who wants to regulate it and have it free of fees, and just have everybody process transactions for free, and provide their electricity and machines to him. I don't know how someone can be so sure about issues of economics, who doesn't understand these basic principles. I guess we're BOTH "trolling" now lol! |
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Serious project with seriously small budget. Will turn into an ongoing arrangement for site maintenance, upgrades, etc. Persons interested should know and have the following: PHP/Java/etc. experience Web design experience Portfolio of sites completed Ability to plan a project; not just a script or code writer Max budget right now is 60BTC which at the moment is around $1200. Please PM me your info if interested, a non disclosure agreement will be necessary for any applicants. If you reply here, I'll know you're illiterate |
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wind power? how are those rare earth metals environmentally concious?
just sayin...
Because they are dug out of the ground using chariots pulled by dolphins! |
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those $300-$500 in fees "you" are paying:
a.) You're soaking up the cost, making you a bad businessman
or
b.) You're passing them along to the consumer, as is intended.
Visa does it back with their rewards - they have customers sign instead of pin entry, which incidentally assesses you as a vendor a higher fee for those vs. debit transactions.
jhansen, I really think nobody here can make you understand the basics of bitcoin until you complete at least a freshman college level Economics course, in all seriousness. Marxism just doesn't work.
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<-- Solar expert. No really, it's what I do for a living.
It's a nice idea. Just remember how much power a mining setup consumes every day though. If you're serious about it, I'd be willing to help with your remewable energy system design. I can help with wiring diagrams, system design, installation recommendations, etc. I have many years of experience putting systems together.
How many BTC for a 1 KW panel setup, inverter, and charging controller? |
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I think instead of block chains for voting, we should twist together beautiful clovers and daisies. I'm certain we could get hundreds of millions of people signed up for this idea, I mean heck, nearly 25% of eligible voters vote already by enduring the complicated action of pulling a lever! SOME districts have even done away with paper ballots ENTIRELY!
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Can you not grow poppies there instead? lol
I don't use drugs, and nobody in my family or circle of friends does, it would be useless for me. And a field of ripe poppy seeds one hour away from my home surrounded by poor peasants that desperately need money to drink so badly they break any laws possible would not be a wise idea. Plus I think they're regulated, civilians can't grow plants with traces of drugs in them, you need a special permit. Sorry, "Lol" is english slang for "I'm not being serious". Nobody who uses opium would have the motivation to plant, harvest, and process poppy plants. |
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I hope you will join me in asking the developers to get rid of this mandatory fee. As a miner, you'll benefit by Bitcoin catching on for more merchants. It'll catch on for more merchants if there isn't a mandatory fee. That's most of the appeal of Bitcoin for merchants: escape from credit card/PayPal fees!
There still isn't a mandatory fee. Repeating that there is doesn't make it true. As far as escaping fees or adding merchants, etc. I have to confess, I'm a capitalist and not a marxist. I'm not doing this for the Proletariat Masses or for the betterment of society, I'm doing it because I want my computer to make me money while I'm at another job making more money, so I can afford to buy a bigger, newer TV that I don't need. Fees allow the transactions to process faster, because more people want to make BTC processing transactions as mining winds down. You can't go to starbucks, pay with bitcoins, and tell the barista "Ok, those BTC should clear in 1-4 hours once there are 120 free confirmations". As mining produces less coins, and at higher difficulty, processing transactions is where the architecture is headed to make more money. If you want to buy a server, and let the whole world use all your servers for free to instantly get 1 of the 120 confirmations needed, so be it. Just convince 119 of your friends to buy servers, and pay for internet, electricity, and hardware out of their own pockets, and process these transactions for the whole Revolution of the Proletariat Masses for free. I'd say you could get a decent server for about $5k with software, and probably $300 a month for colocation on a fast backbone. So for you and your friends, about $600k for the hardware and software, about another $300k for someone to set them up, and then $300 a month times 120 is $36,000. For just under a million you could build an entire network to process free transactions, and for only $36,000 a month plus maintenance and IT staff, you could keep the whole thing running. I think you're on to something here, and I really appreciate you volunteering all of this. I'd be willing to help you with the equipment - I can get you servers for 10% above cost, and $100 an hour for remote labor to set it up. Or, you could pay the fucking 20 cents. |
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Can you not grow poppies there instead? lol
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I may be alone in this, but anybody upset about a 20 cent fee on a transaction doesn't interest me in the slightest, either buying from or selling to, with bitcoins.
So I guess that's it for microtransactions? You're right, though. Imagine what a failure bittorrent would have been if they hadn't required 20 cent transaction fees for every download. They're not required. I haven't used them but once since I started mining, and it was to get coins out quicker. If they're unable to change the text in the box on the standard bitcoin client (as I was) from "0.01" to "0.00" for the transaction fee, they're idiots. We have no shortage of idiots in here already. If they can't do the above, what are they doing getting involved with an electronic cryptocurrency for micro-transactions? I know you're passionate about this belief of yours that it's mandatory, but it's simply not true. To re-pose your torrent question, imagine how the music industry would be doing if they had caught on to $0.99 per song instead of $20 for a shitty album with one good song on it 10 years ago... |
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This is true, but some of the expected fees are 'soft', and should not force the sender to include them. If the fee is not paid on a low priority transaction, then the transaction is simply ignored by the miners until it's old enough that it's priority is above the minimum. I've done this many times when not under time pressure. This fee must be required by his client for some reason.
Again, the main bitcoin.org client imposes a transaction fee (currently 0.0005 BTC) based on the type of transaction (see above). You can recompile the code to make your version of the client have zero fee, if you choose (your milage may vary). Change, in main.h: static const int64 MIN_TX_FEE = 50000; To: static const int64 MIN_TX_FEE = 0; The reason is improved acceptance of the client / concept of Bitcoins, not because it's required. If you don't want to include a fee on a transaction and you're willing to wait, then use a client that doesn't enforce a fee. My current version of the official client (under OSX) will allow me to set the transaction fee to 0.00. However, I believe if I tried to turn-around and send coins I had just received, and was sending a sufficiently small amount, it would deny the transaction without the fee (though I haven't tested this). Another client may accept it. I want to point out that by having this option available through re-compiling, but not through an options menu, we are effectively placing an unfair tax on users who do not have the skill (or desire) to mess with source code. If we want Bitcoin to catch on, we can't afford something like this. I may be alone in this, but anybody upset about a 20 cent fee on a transaction doesn't interest me in the slightest, either buying from or selling to, with bitcoins. |
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Seems like the trades happen slower, but prices are cheaper... maybe I should buy on one and sell on the other?
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For what it's worth, there's a little more than a dollar desparity between Mt Gox and Tradehill - could be some nice day trading to be had |
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I just got off the phone with NASA, they are working with the aliens to take down Mt. Gox. Mt Gox is being watched, by the others.
I spoke with Xenu, and the Church of Scientology has confirmed he has attacked. |
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The site say that if you use the referal code TH-R181, you get a 10% discount, not 5% ! (see fees and commissions)
Used your referral code. Props to you. |
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time for me to switch to TradeHill I guess. A chain is only as strong as its weakest link... will be good for diversifying I think. Tradehill is showing $16.00 and change
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When trying to buy or sell getting this:
Another trade is still in progress, please retry in a few seconds
I have nothing listed in open orders. Anybody else?
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what a crazy market this bitcoin business is.
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