In my opinion, if you are selling anything, it means you are selling, whether its BTC, or handmade Native American Moccasins, or wooden nickels. But of course, I'm not an admin, and so my opinion doesn't really matter  It's just tough to put into my head "OK, I want to get BTC for something... am I selling something, or buying bitcoins? Or selling bitcoins to buy bitcoins?" No, you are right. Selling 6 bitcoins means you are selling 6 bitcoins, just as selling 6 alpaca socks doesn't mean "buying $25 usd for 6 alpaca socks". It's just the way this forum works. How many BTCs do you want for the socks? |
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Let's suppose what you're saying is true.
Let's suppose you're serious about the concept of BTC.
Let's say I'm you.
"I want to be involved with an unregulated, anonymous, decentralized currency. I want to be involved in community discussions in the same manner. However, I want the moderators to delete posts I don't agree with, and I want to limit what types of businesses can be dealt with."
Do you realize how schizophrenic that sounds?
Now for the next part:
"It's smart to be involved in BTC. Smart people will see the value. However, people will see a trolls first post on this board and be scared away."
If you want the types of businesses limited, and the types of discussion regulated, you really shouldn't be involved in BTC at all; you've missed the entire concept.
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where I'm from, lottery winnings are taxed 50-65%
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LOLOCAUST. +1 for Judge Judy. |
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Let's just have all the trolls hang out here, post to each other, and we can all ignore them.
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17k blocks... somebody got married and bought a house, or divorced and bought a Ferrari over a third of a million USD... maybe both!  Well, probably more like $200k. I'm sure he reported it as a gain and paid the taxes on it. |
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Last thing we need is another negative P.R campaign, to artificially drive the prices up, and make it drop even harder next time. We already have another monkey idiot starting another illegal drug exchange in the forum. Where the fuck are the mods? Excuse my language but this seriously pisses me off.
I have to disagree with you there. While I'm not in the market to buy drugs, especially online, the whole idea of BitCoin is about it being decentralized and not run by authorities. Even negative publicity is publicity. I agree about the trolls though... Part of the problem with free speech is people get to say what they want. Let the trolls have their fun with their tiny penises in their mothers' basements. |
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Why would I get my major websites involved? Why if I am wrong and the govt goes on a federal crackdown on all Internet sites that took the payments (Some Of my ventures I have invested hundreds of man hours and hundreds of dollars into) , why would I want one of the ventures that I have worked so hard for getting caught in a massive crack down. For you to say that a business isn't risking anything by having them up now isn't 100% truthful. Till we get a major company on board, no one is safe when excepting the coins. Thats why the market is so unstable now, there needs to be more positive news from the gov't than what we have been getting. Sure an anarchists dream is for bitcoins to ultimately shut down the government, but hell I like running water, cops when there's a bulgary, and firemen when theres a fire. I really don't get libertarians and anarchist...
But yeah my tee-shirt business, and anything else that i post here will be strictly bitcoin oriented... till we either get more support from the government/ or even the community itself. The community is fighting itself right now, and it was to be expected. 80 percent of the people on these boards don't know about half the shit they talk about. And the other 20 percent are simply overwhelmed with the amount of people that has been coming in since press starting hitting it hard.
Nice dodge. I think Palin is hiring. Selling Bitcoin Awareness tshirts and not accepting BTC is like selling cigarettes to raise lung cancer awareness. Do you really think the US Gov is going to crack down on somebody selling 3 tshirts a year or whatever? C'mon... be realistic. |
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No source, no reality. Article 1 sec 8 states what the US Gov *CAN* do, and specifically it says that it CAN MINT COIN, that it can regulate the value of that coin. It does not give the US Gov *ANY* legal standing to make ANY other form of currency, trade, barter, etc, illegal. Period. Read the constitution. That which is not EXPRESSLY allowed is forbidden -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everything_which_is_not_forbidden_is_allowed it applies specifically to the gov, if they're not EXPLICITY, DIRECTLY allowed something, then it's forbidden. Basically, the most they can try to do is say "bitcoin is worthless here in the US in terms of the dollar" -- they can say that until they're blue in the face, but if private entities accept/trade it, well, nothing they can actually do. Just like now. If he wants to make his sheep HARD so he can make love to them, that is his business. PS, I'm pretty sure the owners of the Star Trek franchise would take exception to you using the name "Tribble" - I'm pretty sure copyright infringment is still illegal. |
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thanks one of the moderators explained it to me. Apparently saying "BTC For Sale" means youre "buying" dollars. Seems odd to me... If I were selling a video card, I wouldn't think of it as "buying money". In my opinion, if you are selling anything, it means you are selling, whether its BTC, or handmade Native American Moccasins, or wooden nickels. But of course, I'm not an admin, and so my opinion doesn't really matter It's just tough to put into my head "OK, I want to get BTC for something... am I selling something, or buying bitcoins? Or selling bitcoins to buy bitcoins?" |
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Because BitCoin is a solution in search of a problem. The only people who are amped about making purchases in absolute secrecy are civil libertarians and people interested in purchasing illegal or illicit goods.
Currency speculators, not people who want to buy bitcoins for use in commerce, are driving the market. You guys are passing around a grenade. Great for everyone until you're holding BTC when the grenade goes off.
That's awful kind of you to be concerned about us like that, I really appreciate it. When I'm snuggling up to my pillow tonight, I'm going to pretend it's your warm body next to mine. You are my little spoon. |
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I READ IT ON THE INTERNETZ, IT MUST BE TRUE!
Make it a REAL article with at least two sources - one of them a facebook post full of spelling errors, and the second a Wiki article you created.
PS, It's Shepherd, like one who HERDs sheep. I don't want to know why you'd want sheep HARD.
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Are PCs for nutjobs?  Yes. Anyone willing to invite a metal box full of tiny gnomes and electricity into their house is surely a nutjob. |
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Let's set aside the obviousness of this troll situation for a minute, and play along.
Let's agree that 99% of shops REALLY ARE survivalists.
Survivalists believe the whole world is going to collapse.
When the Apocalypse comes, who is going to have internet and bitcoins?
So you see, even if we assume this person is correct about the first part, their ultimate conclusion is still nonsense.
Conclusions:
Mild to moderate retardation, and/or Fetal Alcohol Syndrome.
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17k blocks... somebody got married and bought a house, or divorced and bought a Ferrari |
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Whoa dude, you mean I can quickly lose weight by trading bitcoins!? Of course! That should be obvious... |
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Is he still doing this, I dont want to put my websites on blast unless hes still doing this, and if he is, one of my websites can bring huge publicity to bitcoin, but don't wana get into this game unless author is serious.
Wow, you have a website selling bitcoin tshirts, and posting in a BTC thread about getting websites on board, and YOU don't even accept BTC for payment? Seriously? |
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I'm dealing with that one as well speak. Sold then shipped a CPU with absolute proof it was shipped to buyer and I'm on appeal right now. Buyer claims nothing was in the package. I have the original package and proof of the difference in weight. However Paypal would rather blow donkeys than use any logic or reasoning when reviewing a dispute.
I can say I'd much rather observe someone blowing donkeys than use paypal as a seller. Call the police in the local persons town - theft that crosses state lines is a felony. Maybe nothing will happen, but if its some high school or college punk, an in person visit from the local police usually does the trick. But back to the topic... |
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I still have a gut feeling $14-$18 is a good range for now based on previous difficulty increases... Although I put in an order at $25 when it was in the 30s. Cest la vie |
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Right, but what you are selling would be a physical CD or USB stick, which WOULDNT be something digital only.
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