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701  Other / Meta / Re: AI writing messages on Bitcointalk.org on: July 19, 2020, 03:42:21 PM
Brave new world, indeed. AI writing here? I still think it can be detected, nobody can write perfect sentences even if a post is intended to be written by a 12 year old.

Waste of technology anyway.

But for a couple of sentences in the article it wrote that was linked I wouldn't have known it was AI. It'll no doubt rapidly get smarter. The GPT-2 posts I've read were empty, moronic shit even if they were coherent. That article was a bit bland but vastly more convincing.

Every time something like this is upgraded it takes a major leap. Looks like this is no exception.
702  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why The FBI Aren’t That Big On Bitcoin on: July 19, 2020, 03:35:14 PM
This sentence stood out - 'Overall, we think the FBI might be being a little naive with these comments.'

They've been gifted with a public and eternal record of every transaction that will ever take place. That makes their job rather easier.

People will point to Monero but we see right now that many dark market types value the convenience of Bitcoin over proper anonymity. Properly private coins will be pushed out of all legit exchanges eventually so will become even more fringe.
703  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic situation declining and famous celebs not paying workers on: July 19, 2020, 03:31:47 PM
This is just sad. My grandmother usually tell me that rich people would be richer and poor people would be poorer, I never thought that I would be even seeing that happening in this world. They are trampling down these people since they have the power to do so.

They have number one to look after just like everyone else. It is poor business sense to let productive contractors wither but the companies know many of them will be back as they don't have any better options, that's if the companies that employ them survive. Everyone has taken a massive hit from the top to the bottom.
704  Other / Meta / Re: AI writing messages on Bitcointalk.org on: July 19, 2020, 01:41:32 PM
The weak spot in this, like with word spinners, is that just a single suspicion can unravel the whole thing. Campaign managers, fellow campaign participants, merit senders etc will eventually notice that something is not quite right with the 10k-post user who streams generic texts without showing any lasting engagement with other users.

OTOH if the AI can beat that then more power to it... them... will it have a preference for certain pronouns I wonder.

Unlike plagarisers there'll never be a smoking gun which makes things a bit harder to execute. I guess you can build up a collective amount of disengagement but the owner of the account will be incentivised to drop in every now and then and act like a reactive community member.

I vote for us to close our eyes and wish for it to go away. The alternative might be a bit hard to take.
705  Other / Meta / Re: AI writing messages on Bitcointalk.org on: July 19, 2020, 01:05:56 PM
Once again another reason for signature vacation time.

I don't really pay attention to them but how many mindless and mediocre posters are left in campaigns at this point? It's not like days of yore where anything could sign up. You have to be pretty convincing to get in one.

Almost all of the crappiest posts are sig free. I presume they'll use something like this in the hope of ranking up to get in one. Not sure how far they'll get.
706  Other / Meta / Re: AI writing messages on Bitcointalk.org on: July 19, 2020, 01:03:00 PM
If the article posted by OP is really written by using AI, then I can only say "Houston, we have a problem".

We already know what the answer is - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5124947.0



Or perhaps everyone will have to read their posts out loud on video, but keep an eye out for deep fake Tom Cruises if they forget to reset it.
707  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic situation declining and famous celebs not paying workers on: July 19, 2020, 12:57:25 PM
Unfortunately,this is how capitalism works.I assume that most of those companies that refuse to pay their employees have enough capital reserves to pay them,but the pretty liberal labor legislation,combined with weak and non-existent unions are allowing those companies to do whatever they want and treat their employees like slaves.

In this case these people aren't their employees. They're the employees of a company in a far off land contracted to work for them. If there's no income there's no reason to contract them and the company probably agreed to it as they're not going to be getting the most generous of terms.

It's not right but it's effectively the same everywhere you go, albeit with less dire consequences.
708  Other / Meta / Re: AI writing messages on Bitcointalk.org on: July 19, 2020, 12:35:32 PM
I haven't seen any AI capable of having an actual opinion, let alone style or personality, and the article hasn't convinced me. But it might be able to fool a signature campaign long enough to get paid so there is definitely a niche here.

It's just getting warmed up. We'll have to wait and see. The opinion bit is the one they'll be looking to refine no doubt.

This was the all AI Reddit sub I referred to - https://www.reddit.com/r/SubSimulatorGPT2/

It's a truly painful read but strangely reminiscent of an awful lot of posts on this very forum.
709  Other / Meta / Re: AI writing messages on Bitcointalk.org on: July 19, 2020, 11:40:33 AM
I assume this a brand new release?

There's a Reddit sub where only GPT bots are allowed to post. That is fucking awful. The sentences are complete and coherent but the whole place echoes with absolute and overwhelming emptiness.

I'm impressed that the linked article was entirely AI. There were a few things that jarred but overall it's a (much) higher standard than most posts here. I can't really see how this can be resisted or identified, especially if it continues to be refined.

The years of google translate or generally empty shitposting has kind of softened us up to be more receptive to this too. I presume there is some gaping hole where this system can be confused or defeated. We'll have to wait for it to be uncovered.


There's simpler & good horrible solution for this problem, which forcing user to solve CAPTCHA every time he made/edit message.

That would be the end of my relationship with this place. But there'll be a bot for that too no doubt.
710  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 19, 2020, 10:43:41 AM
Careful, everybody.

This is clearly a delicate and volatile time with everyone's cards looking to fall.

Look to yourself, not to others.

If mass hysteria descends we end up with THIS

711  Economy / Exchanges / Re: buying cryptocurrencies from Hawaii on: July 19, 2020, 10:36:37 AM
Hawaii is part of the US so you should be able to use any exchange that is available to US residents. The whole buying process happens online so it shouldn't matter whether they have physical locations or offices in Hawaii or not.

Au contraire. Hawaii is toxic apparently. It looks like the authorities there insist anyone who deals with crypto has the full equivalent in cash to back it up so no one is bothering.

Coinbase won't have you, nor will Binance US and those will be the main places to use with cards. Gemini and Bitstamp thinks Hawaiians are horrible too. Kraken does look like a possibility but their USD options are always bad and no cards.

If I were OP the simplest way would be to ask people you trust in other states to buy on your behalf.

There are some ATMs https://coinatmradar.com/state/12/bitcoin-atm-hawai/  but it doesn't look like buying with a card online is possible.
712  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Warning: crypto related twitter accounts (Binance, Bitcoin, TRON, &more) hacked on: July 19, 2020, 10:21:05 AM
So if this is true, I maybe wrong with my impression that the hackers come from a well coordinate group. But according to this article, it was pull by some kid who still lives with their mom and was a teen-ager.

The MO is so stupid and the opportunity it presented was so resoundingly squandered that that makes perfect sense. Someone with more intelligence and motivation could've made much, much more of it.

I presume they'll all claim to be autistic so they didn't understand what they were actually doing and will be too fragile to be extradited to spend the rest of their lives being tortured in a shipping container by Homeland Security. I would too.
713  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: I am concerned about the dangers of KYC, but how do you do business... on: July 19, 2020, 10:17:22 AM
Most people are willing to trade convenience for anonymity, including me. You can smooth that a bit by being picky about who you do business with.

The idea of doing KYC with some no mark ICO is laughable. I wouldn't send them a photo of my stools, let alone anything else. Somewhere like Coinbase may be assholes but at least they should be competent when it comes to data security.

Bitcoin will not go mainstream without centralised third party services. That's a straightforward fact. The overwhelming majority of people want their hand held and someone to moan to. The best we can do is help to kill off the piece of shit operations now by shunning them.
714  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic situation declining and famous celebs not paying workers on: July 18, 2020, 09:16:49 PM
What if these people , these small workers start their own brands and directly receive payments in Bitcoins ?  What matters is skills , the price will be cheaper for the person buying it and these people will even make more.

Consumers want brands primarily. If they want a non branded item they have a million choices anyway.

I think it would be very cool if developing world workers came up with a world beating brand off their own back but you need a mountain of marketing and finance.

No idea what the finances of the companies contracting these factories are like but many will have their own staff and own problems too. In the UK plenty of big operations are on their way out. People in far off lands not directly employed by them will be way down the list.
715  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How Bitcoin was hijacked and centralized on: July 18, 2020, 09:05:35 PM
Very dinky post by OP.

I assume this is a bot programmed to gather everyone's favourite clapped out old squit and group it together for our reading enjoyment. We have however read it many, many, many, many times before.
716  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Wirex- Bitcoin Debit Card | Buy Bitcoin | Mobile Banking | Send Money on: July 18, 2020, 05:45:36 PM
If they hit me for it I dunno if I can be arsed to summon the will to service their desire. I haven't used it for months now. If I have something lying around then maybe. I'm not going to go digging.

And if ever gets to source of funds they will receive a photo of my hairy, sagging bottom. Or more likely one pulled from Google images as that's far less work.
717  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Why are crypto transaction fees so high on: July 18, 2020, 11:15:23 AM
you can always use an altcoin as alternative to save transfer and withdraw fees (on exchanges)

You need to do your sums with that if you want to end up with the original coin. By the time you've added up trading fees and the potential price difference between places you're more than likely to have thrown away more money than you thought you were saving.
718  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This is my own opinion about Bitcoin block halving on: July 18, 2020, 11:03:43 AM
If Bitcoin could be mined forever with the halvings disappearing at some point and the rewards remaining the same after that forever, I don't think it would be a major problem. While there would be more and more BTC, the rate at which more of them become available would allow a certain stability. Okay, maybe Bitcoin would then be susceptible to inflation, but the rate could remain very precise because of this limitation on the BTC that can be mined.

I think Monero got this right - an eternal and low rate of inflation once the big stuff is out of the way. If I were designing something I wanted to be used as a currency I wouldn't have a hard cap on supply. It's great for those who want to make money, less so if you want it to be money.

It would be interesting to still be alive and observing when this becomes a pressing issue, or perhaps it'll be so set in stone by the time halvings end and the fee market proves to be workable that it won't ever be questioned. That's if there's still something named Bitcoin by then of course.
719  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to know if gambling sites are legit? on: July 18, 2020, 10:52:05 AM
Few is not really a word that accurately describes the problem of those who win a larger amount and then get a blocked or frozen account instead of a prize. Of course, it should be taken into account that some players deserve it because they use dirty methods and try to cheat the casino, but there are cases when the casino simply plays dirty because it is difficult or almost impossible to prove who is honest and who is a dirty player.

Is that quite a common occurrence then?


biopiclags, I think that Scam Accusations is a good source of information that can help you decide which gambling site you should consider as legitimate and which do not behave very professionally.

That's a start but we all know how quick people are to scream 'scam' when even the slightest detail doesn't go their way. If the site itself is on such a thread being an asshole that's rather more compelling.
720  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Abra CEO and founder Bill Barhydt now sees Bitcoin as a store of value. on: July 18, 2020, 09:17:08 AM
Wasn't the original idea of Abra all about remittances primarily? If that is the case then in many countries with pisspoor currencies Bitcoin is a better bet than what they have locally, though most will still prefer the good old dollar if they could get their hands on it.

For elsewhere even among existing owners I doubt many feel that way. Many will be after dollars primarily too, ideally more than they put in in the first place.
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