This makes sense, D&T. Now, explain to me how this is accomplished within a couple seconds over and over and over again without the use of a script.

Also, since we know where this address stems from, why was InstaWallet breaking up a large wallet into smaller increments, doing such at one at a time oppose to several at a time of which they've been doing?

Fair enough, bud.

The site was registered on the 24th and on the 25th they posted: http://www.xenergylabs.com/?q=node/2


Sure do hope they've put more thought into their products than they did with their permalinks.

Since when did a few days equal only two days?


You would have had to start watching this site the first minute they went live to even come close to a few days. Their first post was yesterday, therefore I have to ask: You have any relationship to this site?

http://web.archive.org/web/20110923170442/http://butterflylabs.com/pre-order-form/


Although cleverly penned by Sonny K. (a.k.a. Sonny Chris Vleisides), I'm pretty sure the above negates what Josh and all other BF Labs Inc. representatives have stated on record that no, none, zero, nada, nil, empty set, etc., pre-order moneys were used for the development of any products produced by Butterfly Labs. Remember the statement that if all those who ordered requested a refund, all moneys could easily be returned because it safely resides in a US bank in the form of fiat currency? (paraphrased)

I'm not a lawyer, even though I've watched Matlock, but isn't that against the law whether stated or not such is taking place? Also, doesn't that constitute an investor more so than just a simple customer?

Simple question time: Since BFL's original address is still being used on BitPay's site, how and by whom is the mail being collected when delivered to 25 E. 12th Street, Kansas City, MO (zip goes here)?

Bonus simple question: Why was that address used? (apologies for using only 5 words in that simple question)

To drive my point home, above, open up the following image and take a look at the address on the door left of the open sign thingy on the sidewalk: https://eclipsemc.com/files/IMAG0045.jpg (image is larger than the one below)



To be clear, Josh took the picture above. The address on above the door is 23 E. 12th Street. No way in hell would a smart person state he was Walnut Street, unless...

We don't know which or who owns the data centers that BFL's Bitcoin miners will be hosted at. First we had Josh working directly with BFL to host the miners at Josh's data center (of which exactly where that data center is located, nobody knows), now Joe comes along and clearly states that BFL is letting him host the Bitcoin miners at his data center because BFL decided to not do it themselves.

In the OP, I tried to established that Josh was employed at one of the data centers located across the street from BFL's original address, namely 25 E. 12th Street, not 25 Walnut Street as Josh once stated.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=48863.msg597832#msg597832


The address on the building clearly faces 11th Street, and not Walnut, thus I'm implying Josh may have been tossing out a red herring, for he's a very, very smart man, not prone to make a simple mapping error like such. This guy's been in the service, knows Korean, and flys plains, a word idiots some times messpeels.

With the exception of rare occasions, in the US if a number on a building is seen from the street you're standing on, most likely that building's address will have the name of said street in it, especially if the building with the number is located not on the corner of the street. No way would one working on the same block as said building for a period of years, and knowing the city's numbering system like the back of their hand would make such a simple mistake.

Simple question time: Josh, how were you able to state Zaina's address incorrectly?

My apologies, Joe. I was not aware that Josh has abandoned his very own hosting company working directly with BFL.


It probably proved to be not profitable, hence handing over all the Bitcoin mining hosting reins to Joe, of which is probably in better position to profit with such a venture then Josh was with the data center he owns.

In closing, a very simple question: Josh, where is you data center located?

Thank you so kindly, dree. Your reply makes so much sense. Apologies for being an asshole this time. (sincerely)

I now look forward to a logical explanation.

Peace, all.

Bruno Kucinskas

What type/kind of equipment are we talking about here? A general idea would be fine.

As far as converting to fiat, BitPay comes to mind, with the possibility of zero (0) fees depending on your location and NPO status. I don't want to speak for them, but off the cuff I believe you qualify. Tony has an excellent team in place over at bitcoin.com.

You're doing fine. No problem, bud. No qualms here. But that edd... 

Hello, new bitcoiners.

Currently, we're discussing how bitcoins can change hands in mere seconds without any confirmations. Too bad you won't see it because this thread has been moved to the Technical Support section of this forum, a place I didn't even knew existed until the penning of this post.

Am I being told that this issue is not even relevant, hence the move?

Maybe it was taken into consideration where the wallet stemmed from, hence the hiding of this important (so I thought) thread.

At the moment, I'm fuckin' beside myself! (not dissing the person who moved the thread)

https://blockchain.info/address/14cVg2Hnegd9vQs218RN8mKrpwvuTwUZd7

2 seconds later: https://blockchain.info/address/1Ka44Q9bdm5uRsb3tyeMQPmWiN27yLkqU7

4 seconds later: https://blockchain.info/address/1HBdpb33BGW56jWEhXdFZAF7JfWZ4Ws6Rd

2 seconds later: https://blockchain.info/address/1BWz7DF615bcxQMrsoZetxSeU3v8yDFfNP

2 seconds later: https://blockchain.info/address/1QBUXwemBGneKQpjiN6JVsbKieTSAJvFiC

3 seconds later: https://blockchain.info/address/1LPV6TEj38ohfkcCt7AZCkDCb1V3xxfjF5

3 seconds later: https://blockchain.info/address/1G7SyF1zc1PUpevdWw5uE4bgFNNZ1rWwPg

3 seconds later: https://blockchain.info/address/1BsvKASfZ6kfzMk9fJ5ysycah2QCMsCKxz

3 seconds later: https://blockchain.info/address/17yg9bjZJ9SRMwtZpo5vTvZ53hzTo5jv14

4 seconds later: https://blockchain.info/address/1JQVJbYbJ63vJUAdMqb6prV8TutX4w8ZWA

2 seconds later: https://blockchain.info/address/1M1F49qhqWqynGKWuX8qaQ79iZ87p1ZRqa

12 seconds later (probably needed to catch his breath): https://blockchain.info/address/1457r5NiLm6WEUbAojWahALKdDTuqz7Wyk

I'm sure there's a logical explanation for the above, but it eludes me.

Enlighten me!

Makes sense! Family, friends and business associates should get paid prior to those still waiting as long as they went through the same claim process.

I gotta get out the old-school-state-of-mind of having such wait till last, since last being only a couple weeks or so away, akin to parents sitting down for dinner and letting their children eat first.

Besides, he probably needed the money more badly than the rest us due to some dice game: https://blockchain.info/tx/829ee922d522ef14f23685bae9381152f2013e9617f1ee3b612835af224f37bd

Who's Davout?

This is odd! Notice the list is in alphabetical order and stops at 1Qxxxxxxx..... https://blockchain.info/address/19vZF13np1n33xBBxw6v2vbnC37P1UXpGN


Are we led to believe that not a single person qualified to receive coins at this time had a wallet address starting with 1S... to 1Z...?

Overall, good show!

A simple question before I go: Any idea who owns the following address gleaned from above--1DavouTAsveznCFHsz688xvbrRAq4u2qm8 (3.5996995 BTC)? I'm just curious because the 3.5996995 BTC figure looks odd to me, albeit this person probably deserves his coins like the rest of us for waiting just as long for the return of his/her money.

If you don't know this person, no problem. Just thought I'd ask that simple question, for I've been on a simple question kick for a couple days now.

With all due respect toward Bryan, he was not the first to express concerns about BFL, though he did provide a powerful voice. I wasn't even the first, but I was the first to make the Laissez Faire City and MyWebSpawner lottery connection to Sonny Vleisides, even providing a link of at least one HYIP that went bust with its investors pointing the finger his way. It wasn't V-Money, but now I need to look into that.

Trying to find it for you, and came across these gems:

Broken dicks; Bags o' dicks; Dick York; Dick Sargent; I say we're getting Bewitched!

Dude, you'll be white-knighting also if you just concede to the fact, like I have, that 400 units a day shipped for the past 21 days is a major accomplishment given all the shortfalls BFL encountered.

And don't forget to ask simple questions at your end of your post so that Josh can address them as he has so promised, similar to what SftSpike asked on BFL's forum back in January of this year: https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/690-13-jan-2013-asic-update-discussion-thread-41.html#post12289


10 pages later Josh never got around to addressing the question, probably because of CES, of which is more than understandable. But that was then, and this is now--full-production-city. Josh has plenty of time on his hand now to address a myriad of simple questions.

To prove what I've stated above is true, I will ask a very, very, very simple question for all to see how Josh replies.

Josh, where is the data center you own located?

You say that now, but just wait till Q4/13 rolls around and BFL shows photoshopped flipped pics of the next gen minin' rigs on their website. You'll be singin' a different tune then while your fatass fingers rest on your keyboard readied to engage the the pre-order button hopin' to be in early queue position.

You'll be braggin' your ass off with, "Look at me! Look at me! Pre-order #1X." Then, all the naysayers will be signing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeQsZOQqO6I