Sorry, is this C wave you speak of a wave up or down?
Speaking in fractals, both. there needs to terminate a minor c wave of B before we can begin wave C major. minor wave c might be done sooner and shallower than I expect. the major C wave should take us to 450.
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China and the west are playing a different game. I think we should not try to play the retracment down, rather just buy when it gets there. a break above 390 highs or 2350 in china would mean wave C has begun. while I firmly believe we need more retracement, I will be tracking impulsive counts in this case.
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The initial point of this post was to identify levels of confirmation of wave C termination. Today I am fairly confident on the smaller scale that wave C is not complete. Here is the current preferred count. Hi chessnut, I have the same count in mind. Since Wave III is extended we could see Wave 5 = 1 and be looking at a truncated 5th that would end the downtrend, at least in the short term. For Wave 4, the 78% retracement of Wave A is right at 300 so I guess we will be testing that support. If we break it, it's likely we are still in Wave III. Hey eboard10, I have had that idea myself. It is certainly possible, although I think best just to wait and see. wave V will be readable as it comes. I agree that we need a deeper retracement of wave A, I would only expect 0.618, 320 or so seems fair. At this rate it looks like it will take a long time. If we break 300, I dont think that means we are still in wave III, only a break of 275 would have me guessing, but it would be either wave III or wave V, equally unlikely imo. Thanks for your comments.
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and sorry for the confusion - the upside swing is invalidated if huobi passes under 2180.... seems to be threatening now. bigger pictre has not changed, we want to be in the 310-330 range.
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would be risky to trade the upswing it seems, apart from huobi, no other exchange has given such confirmation. the trade we are ultimately looking toward is buy at 430.
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By the way we are reacting to these levels, an extended B wave here is not unlikely. this is what to watch for. the market is still short term bearish.
Which B do you mean? The downwards in your last stamp chart? Sorry There is only one B in the above chart, not b. I think we are going to 375.
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By the way we are reacting to these levels, an extended B wave here is not unlikely. this is what to watch for. the market is still short term bearish. EDIT: huobi has just strongly reacted to this level, I believe this is the current count. close shorts, sell higher up.
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OK. seems like b wave has terminated cerca 0.618 of a. a stop above the local top, 370, is an excellent risk reward opportunity for shorts. target 330.
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We have not made a significant retracement of wave A, and I expect one. This is one option that caters for a wave B. I would wait for a strong confirmation before shorting this one, something that might not come. We are still looking towards buy targets of 330. If we break through 390 in an impulsive fashion, then I will try provide an entry point for the impulsive wave to cerca 450. This is NOT a long term hold position.
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I am not confident that this c wave will play out as expected as we have broken the local down trend - looking for a better signal.
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Great thread! Thank you for sharing your expertise!
thanks, have a great day trading.
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How about a triangle?
A triangle would be a VERY shallow correction. we 90% expect greater than 0.382 correction, and in corrective waves deep corrections are most common. 0.618 would take us to 320ish, I am expecting at least 335.
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C wave forecast remains in tact. target cerca 330.
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This is a short term forecast.
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The initial point of this post was to identify levels of confirmation of wave C termination. Today I am fairly confident on the smaller scale that wave C is not complete. Here is the current preferred count.
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Good charts. I think we just started B of correction. Do not think we crash here. My C target is 420+
13.3k shorts is bullish as heck.
420 is not unreasonable, but for the moment I think that's looking too far ahead. Lets look for a wave B, deep retrace, 0.618, cerca 300. let the beast turn and buy. Targets will be clear at the end of C if it is an impulse (IV could be a triangle - in which case we just topped, unlikely)
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very nice thread chessnut thanks for starting it
Thanks, I hope you find it useful in the coming weeks.
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Thanks a lot for sharing! Do you also use other tools like oscillators etc in your analysis? Sure enough, that big mofo wall made the technical picture a little bit confused when it was there... but I agree on the bigger scale it doesn't matter could we also be tracing out a bigger b wave right now before a final push higher? After such a massive move down I just can't believe we cannot even go above 350...! I have to give you credit for this count, you received your C wave, although it changes the bigger picture here.
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Remember that if we correct sharply here we should not try pick the bottom, rather wait for confirmation or a 270 retest.
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