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841  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 13, 2021, 01:41:55 AM
I still think that we should avoid too much politics here (some is probably unavoidable).

It's unavoidable. Trump has only 8 days left to save America! If he fails this country will enter the most brutal dictatorship the world has ever seen.


Does "save" here means to ignore the will of the majority, ignore decision of the judicial branch with the judges appointed by Trump, and in essence for loosing minority to commit a coup d'état while expecting the 81 million majority to idly stand by? Well, prepare to be disappointed.

Edit: Or do you mean to admit defeat, concede to Biden and try to unite the nation by deescalating the situation and reaching out to his base?

If Trump fails we can do nothing but only watch how American Bolsheviks will unite the nation!


I hear you repeating it but it doesn't make it any more "truer". So if he "succeeds" and judicial branch/supreme court is ignored, the leader of loosing minority is forced upon the majority pretty much destroying the institution of democracy in US everything will be fine? Right? riiight???
842  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 12, 2021, 11:14:58 PM
On an unrelated note, what happened to realr0ach?
Does he still post here?

Would like to know his thoughts on the current bull run  Grin


Who gives a shit what happened to that cockroach.

I'd like to know what happened to V8.


Thought he rebranded to that bitunlocker dude?
843  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 12, 2021, 11:14:22 PM
I still think that we should avoid too much politics here (some is probably unavoidable).

It's unavoidable. Trump has only 8 days left to save America! If he fails this country will enter the most brutal dictatorship the world has ever seen.


Does "save" here means to ignore the will of the majority, ignore decision of the judicial branch with the judges appointed by Trump, and in essence for loosing minority to commit a coup d'état while expecting the 81 million majority to idly stand by? Well, prepare to be disappointed.

Edit: Or do you mean to admit defeat, concede to Biden and try to unite the nation by deescalating the situation and reaching out to his base?

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Last night, I congratulated Donald Trump and offered to work with him on behalf of our country. I hope that he will be a successful president for all Americans. This is not the outcome we wanted or we worked so hard for and I’m sorry that we did not win this election for the values we share and the vision we hold for our country.
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Our campaign was never about one person or even one election, it was about the country we love and about building an America that’s hopeful, inclusive and big-hearted.

We have seen that our nation is more deeply divided than we thought. But I still believe in America and I always will. And if you do, then we must accept this result and then look to the future. Donald Trump is going to be our president. We owe him an open mind and the chance to lead.

Oh wait no that's Clinton conceding to Trump, yeah fuck that there's no personal gain for Trump in uniting the nation burn baby burn
844  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 10, 2021, 07:49:12 PM
Some dirty rotten whale is dumping Bitcoin and pumping  *******trash.


All those alts mine/hold BTC, that's how they attempt to peg their values to BTC, otherwise they'd have to spend real cash to match BTC inflows. Bitant is a prime example of that, when they published their holdings their BTC balance constantly was going down. Just think how many BTC they could've had if they stopped dumping to keep those shitcoins on life support. looks like btrash hit ATL against BTC 2 days ago, so another round of injections was necessary. But that's a good thing, you don't want them hoarding huge BTC stashes, that's what distribution looks like
845  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 09, 2021, 08:50:26 PM
It's 2021 and people are still selling their BTC for paper coupons  Huh
846  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 08, 2021, 09:31:47 PM
...

do you think Biden tries to charge Trump

...

If i was the orange man that'd be my number 1 risk, to mitigate, first i'd try to negotiate a pardon from Biden. Failing at that, i'd try to extend and radicalize my base as much as possible, to make the charge against me as costly as possible (if i split GOP party at it so be it, numero uno is the priority)
847  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 08, 2021, 05:47:49 PM
Was out for holidays so what did i miss ohh Shocked
ATH ... check
breaking 25k 30k 35k 40k 41k 42k ... check
WO page count parity ... check
Tesla model 3 parity ... check
Lambo parity ... pending
https://crypto-to-lambo.com/
848  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 19, 2020, 03:21:34 AM

This is gross!
...
Who uses Handcuffs?  Roll Eyes
I'd go for cable ties...  Grin

If only Notlambchop could see us now

She'd be jealous. Best she could come up with was Lemon Party and a few other geriatric pics.

I'd be happy to buy at any of the prices she was taking the piss out of. You could buy sub $400 Bitcoins back then, and soon they will be $40k+ Bitcoins.



She should have been buying instead of posting this stupid gif interspersed with geriatric pics all day every day.

Oh man this brings back memories, lambie was constantly rubbing it in with these.

Edit: need to learn to read before replying
849  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 18, 2020, 02:38:56 AM
I see the gay cards didn't work either, so what's moving the price then?
More buyers at current price than sellers
850  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 17, 2020, 08:10:48 AM
Looks like jbreher is running away somewhere in a hurry
851  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 17, 2020, 02:41:45 AM
22k shall not stand!
852  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 16, 2020, 06:37:34 PM

Wish he'd pull Andreas and stay away from speculating on number movements
853  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 16, 2020, 06:27:11 PM
Wow this takes me back, I remember watching the slaying of the bear-whale live!

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Moment of remembrance to The BearWhale who sold 30,000 $BTC @ $300.
Look at that sell wall.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1339038633710374912

i remember. everyone would have expected that something that large would send the price into the abyss. the bearwhale turned a possible $591mio into 9mio.

If he's smart he didn't sell everything, or maybe not even a majority.

Either way if he didn't blow it on hookers and coke he could still have retired on that amount, nothing to sneeze at. I wouldn't mind having done that "mistake".

I believe he rebought after, and signed a message from the empty wallet with a 30k outgoing transaction. Just show's that it's never too late, repent and BTC will accept you back
854  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 16, 2020, 08:11:42 AM
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If you are unable to link your bank account via Plaid or prefer not using your online banking credentials to register your bank account, please exit the screen and navigate to Manually link bank and input your wire information. Once your bank account information is set up, you can complete the bank verification process with a successful wire deposit into your account.

https://support.gemini.com/hc/en-us/articles/115004691043-How-do-I-fund-my-Gemini-Account-

or go the hardway and create a burner bank account like vapourminer

wonder if that was an option back in 2017.

either way i would rather have separate accounts for exchanges.

i figure at this point all my finances are well known to banks and whatnot anyway. they have too many ways to link everything anyway. not that i like that of course. and im no where smart enough to get around that stuff anyway.

Probably always was, no way they had an API for every single little bank, must always have a manual back up process. Banks have at least some responsibility to safeguard your transaction data, some marketing company leaking their databases online/selling it to highest bidder, not so much.
855  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 16, 2020, 08:08:31 AM
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Good info, but not really relevant as I am sure all my regular payment information is already widely available within the financial system.
I use credit cards, so if someone wants to see what I spend on, they already can.
Regarding my crypto dealings all this does is to inform someone that i sent a few deposits to coinbase and gemini. Not very important.
In other words, everything that you described is already there via gazillion of info aggregators that are plugged in into the financial system.
But, thanks for reminding me one more time how much under the microscope we all are.
Ever wonder , how come after mentioning "vacuum cleaner" in your text or on a Facebook page, suddenly you are bombarded with vacuum cleaners everywhere, even on btctalk?
Do I like it? Not in the slightest, but learned to mostly ignore it.

Well it's one thing for financials institutions to have your transaction history and it's another when marketers do. Plus i'm not sure if it's a one time thing or they continue pulling/monitoring your transactions indefinitely? Then when those databases leak online and we can see all of your transactions history for past X years you can't bitch at anyone because you gave away your creds yourself.
You buy one green dildo online and then the forum is littered with green dildos?

Privacy takes effort, you either go with the flow with the path of least resistance, or you use tor, private/incognito modes and drop facebook etc...
856  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 16, 2020, 06:17:49 AM
to whom it may concern

yes yall have finally shamed me into finishing setting up the gemini account i started years ago...

What KYC do they want? Is it passport, bank statement and utility bill scans?

started a few years ago (in 2017) so dont remember much. (then) they wanted password access to my the back account i wanted to link to (!!WTF!!) which stopped me dead in me tracks till i could give them an account i wound up making specifically for them and let them have that.


FECKING PASSWORD ACCESS TO YOUR BANK ACCOUNT?

Is that even legal? I bet most banks have a clause in their terms and conditions forbidding disclosure of your password to anyone.

I also remember something like this (also in 2017 or so), which was unusual. I wrote to them asking, basically, wtf?
The answer was that you enter the password on a special bank site, not on the Gemini site (all banks are integrated there) and the session is not recorded (right!!).
It is probably similar to how you can prove that the btc account is yours by signing a message.
Basically, they see that you were able to login, but they don't see the password as you login into your bank, essentially (or so they claim).
I think all they get from the session is the record that you were able to login into the account you claim to be the owner of.
The explanation was that this gives them confidence that the bank account is actually yours and you can control it.
I did it, but then had to wait at least 3 weeks for approval.
The only reason I initiated it in the first place was because at that time they had no limits (at least no discernible limits) on withdrawals and you can trade immediately after you initiate the deposit, which Coinbase did not have at the time.

Well you think wrong, care to try again? Don't think/trust, verify.

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Information we collect from your financial accounts. The information we receive from the financial product and service providers that maintain your financial accounts varies depending on the specific Plaid services developers use to power their applications, as well as the information made available by those providers. But, in general, we collect the following types of identifiers, commercial information, and other personal information from your financial product and service providers:

    Account information, including financial institution name, account name, account type, account ownership, branch number, IBAN, BIC, and account and routing number;

    Information about an account balance, including current and available balance;

    Information about credit accounts, including due dates, balances owed, payment amounts and dates, transaction history, credit limit, repayment status, and interest rate;

    Information about loan accounts, including due dates, repayment status, balances, payment amounts and dates, interest rate, guarantor, loan type, payment plan, and terms;

    Information about investment accounts, including transaction information, type of asset, identifying details about the asset, quantity, price, fees, and cost basis;

    Identifiers and information about the account owner(s), including name, email address, phone number, date of birth, and address information;

    Information about account transactions, including amount, date, payee, type, quantity, price, location, involved securities, and a description of the transaction; and

    Professional information, including information about your employer, in limited cases where you’ve connected your payroll accounts.

    The data collected from your financial accounts includes information from all your accounts (e.g., checking, savings, and credit card) accessible through a single set of account credentials.

    Information we receive from your devices. When you use your device to connect to our services through a developer’s application, we receive identifiers and electronic network activity information about that device, including IP address, hardware model, operating system, which features within our services you access, and other technical information about the device. We also use cookies or similar tracking technologies to collect usage statistics and to help us provide and improve our services. You can find more information about how we use cookies and your related choices in our Cookie Policy.

    Information we receive about you from other sources. We also receive identifiers and commercial information about you directly from the relevant developer or other third parties, including our service providers, bank partners, and identity verification services. For example, developers may provide information such as your full name, email address, phone number, or information about your financial accounts and account transactions.

    Inferences we derive from the data we collect. We may use the information we collect about you to derive inferences. For example, we may infer your location or your projected income based on the information we have collected about you from other sources.
https://plaid.com/legal/#information-we-collect-and-categories-of-sources

Though bitcoiners are not supposed to be so naďve, now you have to burn that account, then step away from your computer, pour gasoline all over it and set it on fire too!
857  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 16, 2020, 06:01:31 AM
to whom it may concern

yes yall have finally shamed me into finishing setting up the gemini account i started years ago...

What KYC do they want? Is it passport, bank statement and utility bill scans?

started a few years ago (in 2017) so dont remember much. (then) they wanted password access to my the back account i wanted to link to (!!WTF!!) which stopped me dead in me tracks till i could give them an account i wound up making specifically for them and let them have that.


FECKING PASSWORD ACCESS TO YOUR BANK ACCOUNT?

Is that even legal? I bet most banks have a clause in their terms and conditions forbidding disclosure of your password to anyone.

You'd have to be an idiot to give third party your bank login/password, but

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If you are unable to link your bank account via Plaid or prefer not using your online banking credentials to register your bank account, please exit the screen and navigate to Manually link bank and input your wire information. Once your bank account information is set up, you can complete the bank verification process with a successful wire deposit into your account.

https://support.gemini.com/hc/en-us/articles/115004691043-How-do-I-fund-my-Gemini-Account-

or go the hardway and create a burner bank account like vapourminer
858  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 16, 2020, 05:40:20 AM
Do you know who earns 31 Bitcoins per day?

Grayscale.



Fucking unbelievable.

They now own more than 3% of the total bitcoin supply.

Fucking unbelievable.

They sell their Bitcoin at 24,000 USD each.

Fucking unbelievable.

Food for thought, in 24years they'll make more BTC in fees than is mined
859  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 13, 2020, 07:11:55 PM
OT: Another idiot soon to be indicted for shitcoin securities fraud.  Roll Eyes

https://www.coindesk.com/rapper-lil-yachty-sells-out-social-token-in-21-minutes

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"According to the Fyooz app, the sale brought in $276,006. Owning $YACHTY gives fans exclusive access to the Grammy-nominated artist, including surprise boxes prepared by his mom, Venita McCollum, author of the book “Raising a Rapper.”

Token owners can also receive personal items from the rapper’s career and participate in online parties with him, according to Fyooz. "

Have these people learned nothing from the ICO debacle?

When jail, bro?

Tomorrow's news, Lil Yachty had a big boat accident.
860  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 10, 2020, 08:18:06 PM
Read from all sources, it's always good. CoinTelegraph is not saying it, they are quoting someone else as saying it. If anything, the basic fundamentals of bitcoin that we all know can not be changed without consensus. That implies, some certain parameters will never change, such as the halving and money supply, the 10 minute block times, etc.

Addresses may change, new scripts may get added, but the core rules will never change no matter what. There is not enough money at this point (and for maybe awhile now) to try and change it. CZ once mentioned a roll back, and we know that can not be done either. A re-org maybe, but not a roll back to more than a few hours ago.

If you're set for life like Bob or some others, looking into your corns once a year and keeping updated about all the new stuff that's happening may be all you need to do. It's like an annual rebalancing of your portfolio.

Wow new wave of FUD incoming... lifting 21m coins limit, US banning private wallets cmon bears you can do better! What about China bans BTC? That one should work it always did...  Grin
If they could do better then they would be doing it already, the fact that is what they are using shows how weak their position really is, lifting the 21 million coin limit is never going to happen and anyone seriously proposing that will be laughed out of the room, if anything I am seriously questioning myself whether I should ever read anything from cointelegraph ever again.

It's still possible to propose fundamental rule changes, but in any case would result in a fork
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