I want to take this moment to remember that exactly one year ago we were at around $3.5K and it was a hard blow after all the previous year unfulfilled dreams.

During 2019, it seems we have bottomed and doubled that.

What I mean is...



HAPPY XMAS TO ALL OF YOU WO BROTHELS



#nohomo #wosign #dyor

After a second thought... I think yobit is doing a great job in showing that shitcoins are shitcoins. If some people want to "invest"/gamble on those... why not?

As long as they don't exit scam (something that could happen with any other sponsor at any time) and they fulfil their promises... They make very clear that the interest being paid is not for unlimited time but just while (promotion/advertising) funds are available... after that you can withdraw your (worthless-or-not) tokens + interest accrued.

Want to "invest" in X10 tokens whatever the fuck that is?  Fine, DYOR or just go ahead and try your "luck", maybe you will profit handsomely or, most probably, you will lose most or all. Your money, your call.

It doesn't necessarily meet the definition of a ponzi because they can print more in order to fulfil their promise and allow for everyone to withdraw their "principal" + interest. It's not that they need to pay new entrants with early entrants funds.

Neither a pyramid in a strict sense. Probably a pump and dump scheme in some way but... aren't most (if not all) shitcoins like that?

They don't guarantee any value/price those tokens might have in the future. It's shittokens what we are talking about here FFS. Not even BTC value/price in the future is guaranteed, but even a mediocre "investor" should know what is safer and the wise choice. And again, DYOR.

That being said, changing the signature in the middle of a campaign so that participants need to start advertising a *completely different* product/service doesn't seem like a great business practice but, even then, as long as participants have the right to stop doing it and are compensated until that moment... Well, that's more of bad communications and procedural issue than anything else.

I don't see that MUCH difference between advertising gambling sites or exchanges that support or even promote shitcoins. I have never worn a paid sig though, so I am just talking as a user continuously exposed to that kind of advertising here.


P.S.: To be more clear... No, I would NOT be comfortable with advertising a fucking shitcoin "investment" plan myself even if I needed the money. But that's a completely different matter I am not discussing here.

15% weekly on BTC? 100% safe? Wow! Why do people even bother to wear signature for pennies when you could just sell your home, "invest", and be multimillionaire in a matter of months?

I need to hear more! .... And some popcorns too.



P.S.: Irony apart. I don't really like to talk without knowing even a little. So I just went to check what is that InvestBox thing. And here is my preliminary opinion:

- It seems that there are "investment plans" that someone can create, not just yobit themselves. For different coins/tokens etc.

- It *seems* that they say it is safe because the wallet from which the interest will be paid must be prefunded, and when it runs out of coins the investment plan will become inactive... the consequences of which I don't know.

- The shitcoins for most of the plans are probably coming from own emission or airdrop budgets or something. They are shitcoins anyways, so who cares. DYOR.

- I don't see a 15%/week plan on BTC

- I do see one 1% daily BTC plan though. But max investment is 1BTC. We all know that's not sustainable, but it could be a ponzi... or just an "introductory offer" in which some will take advantage while "supplies" last (at their cost) and will quickly reduce the rewards. That's still highly risky... If you don't know how someone is making money to give you some profit to you... they are probably "stealing" it from you (or others).

- Also it seems that the investment plans give shitcoin rewards (which probably come from free emission to them or the investment plan creators) for ie "investing"/depositing BTC.

So maybe a bit early to definitely call it a "scam" or a ponzi without more conclusive evidence... but fishy for sure. Nothing new under the sun though.

#YMMV #DYOR

member when we were at over $19K?

I do 

This is fine though.

^ This.

Was thinking about saying something extra... but no. That is it all there is to say.

Yes.

Yes both options could be valid. The first option (automatically reserving 25 over and under the guess price) would probably the better and easier to implement.

That would encourage participants to be faster in their predictions in contrast to what happens now in which it is "technically" better to wait. Of course it is "just" a game, a free one thanks to your generosity, but still there is money (and not a trivial amount for most) on the table. Plus everyone likes to try win, money or not, because that is part of the fun.

On the other hand, the predefined slots which multiple people can choose if they believe that will be the price even if they would have to share it has an additional advantage. There is a possibility there might be more happy winners. But on the contrary the prize would be less impresive for each of them.

So yes, both options might be interesting but they have different pros and cons.

If it would be me, probably I would go with the first option because everything is easy to understand and manage and it is the less change to current "rules". Instead of just making sure a pick hasn't been taken before, participants (and you when updating the list) just have to make sure their pick is $25 apart from any other previous picks.

Easy and it will encourage to make picks as soon as possible. And still there can be only "ONE winner that takes it all" lol

Or go with the shareable slots if you want to allow for the chance of multiple winners sharing the victory. That would also make for an interesting experiment to see how many people decides to go with their guess no matter if there are already a bunch of others on the same slot. That is not currently possible and people gets forced to either box someone (which I consider somewhat impolite and try to avoid) or go for a second best guess, or third...

BUT... that alternative would not encourage participants to make their pick fast. Maybe on the contrary, it would still be better to wait and decide as you can always share the spot even if previous participants picked it first.

So I would go for the first option, yeah.

P.S.: In fact both alternatives are the same being the difference if the slots can be shared (which doesn't encourage early picks) or are unavailable for next participants (which encourages early picks in some way).

YES!


... And I am sure they are hiding it in your ass!!


Where's my poll?  

I demand we vote.

Proof or it didn't happen!

Nice graph.

That being said, I think the number of hacked exchanges per year is not taking into account the increase in number of exchanges. It would seem that security/risks is getting worse, when maybe it is the contrary. I would suggest to compare the figure of "hacked exchanged / total number of exchanges active in that year". That would probably give a better overall view of how security is progressing. And show how in the first years probably there were even more hacks than exchanges active (repeated hacks).

Who the hell did that? The JJG of charts??!

Hey notbatman, while you keep searching for Atlantida, could you please setup the poll so that we can come to an official stance?

I think I have covered all suggestions and have tried to make the options as clear and concise as possible:


Multiple choice allowed, can change the vote (some new irrefutable proofs could be discovered during polling time). Thanks!!

Yeah, that's it, preset slots!

Can do both things at the same time

I have one suggestion I have always been thinking about the games. Didn't know you were planning to do more... but if you do insist of spending the little BTC you got left after your boating accident...

The thing is that being first in chosing a date is somewhat "penalized" in that you can be boxed and can't do anything against. I would predetermine the boxes in such a way that if several people decide to chose the same "box" (ie: from 7200 to 7400) they all share (divide) the prize. That way more probable ranges will have more people to share the price, yes, but they won't wait till later to see if their initial choosing is too "crowded" and chose a better one. I think that will make for a more "honest" chosing with no consideration what other people have chosen. And results would be much more reliable about what people really think could be the right choice even if they have to "share" the prize.

Not sure if I have explained it well.... I could do better otherwise... some other time. Too much drink tonight. Cheers!

Hmmm, it makes sense but.... Rules are rules and there's not such option. I will note it as a [2] and add a note stating that notbatman is retarded. Or better yet, I will add a notbatman is retarded statement for every option and.... meh, less talk and more work, let's just do it

P.S.: Done! If anyone has any suggestion to improve the poll options please tell. Also I would kindly ask notbatman to officially add the poll to the thread so that we can finally come to an official agreement.

Vote counted as a [2].

Ok, I will note that as a [3] on my poll. Thanks for participating.

mmmkay, I know it's friday and all that shit but if you guys don't vote at my "informal" poll here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1009045.msg53399555#msg53399555) I will make all the fucking flat sky fall and crush your little rounded heads. I am just trying to help and doing it all for the good of everyone.

Here:



Repent yourlsef, you sinner!  


P.S.: Ok, maybe not an xhomerx original but that's the best I could find