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1841  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 19, 2019, 11:47:48 AM
The next 24 hours are critical as always. If we keep the momentum, a breakout above 4K  is possible. This will comfirm that we are in a bull market. Longs are pretty high and shorts are low. The support down to $3K is double than the previous 2 weeks - in BFX went from 6K to 11.2K BTC. We didn't have a rise this week, so a breakout is more probable than a long squeeze.  We shall see.

OK, I don't want to brag with my trading skills, but this was a precise hit! Btw, I always like to watch BFX price - it is more bullish than Bearstamp. And we just broke 4K on BFX!!!
They're always $100+ aren't they fake news and a risky exchange to use?

Of course they are risky. I trust only kraken and CB for fiat withrawals. But the fact is that BFX starts almost all pumps and it is more fun to watch than the dull Bearstamp.

We don't watch Bitstamp because of the "fun" or the "no fun," but instead for a desire to attempt to stay in the real world rather than in fantasylandia.

I mean if the rate is real and you can actualy sell BTC at that price why it's a fantasy?

Because you can't sell it for REAL USD that you can properly withdraw to your bank account.

Never used BF myself but I presume you're wrong: https://support.bitfinex.com/hc/en-us/articles/213919309-Fiat-Withdrawal-Processing

Maybe someone can shed some light if BFX now *really* have working withdrawals? If that were the case then I wouldn't understand why it still has the higher premium.
1842  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 19, 2019, 10:05:58 AM
The next 24 hours are critical as always. If we keep the momentum, a breakout above 4K  is possible. This will comfirm that we are in a bull market. Longs are pretty high and shorts are low. The support down to $3K is double than the previous 2 weeks - in BFX went from 6K to 11.2K BTC. We didn't have a rise this week, so a breakout is more probable than a long squeeze.  We shall see.

OK, I don't want to brag with my trading skills, but this was a precise hit! Btw, I always like to watch BFX price - it is more bullish than Bearstamp. And we just broke 4K on BFX!!!
They're always $100+ aren't they fake news and a risky exchange to use?

Of course they are risky. I trust only kraken and CB for fiat withrawals. But the fact is that BFX starts almost all pumps and it is more fun to watch than the dull Bearstamp.

We don't watch Bitstamp because of the "fun" or the "no fun," but instead for a desire to attempt to stay in the real world rather than in fantasylandia.

I mean if the rate is real and you can actualy sell BTC at that price why it's a fantasy?

Because you can't sell it for REAL USD that you can properly withdraw to your bank account.
1843  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 19, 2019, 09:30:01 AM
Going to break 4k, are we?

Didn't we already do that a month or so ago?
I fail to see the wow factor in that, just normal volatility.
It's because we're showing more evidence of it reversing.

Nah, it's too early for that, we have several more months sideways to look forward to.
I'll be glad if I'm wrong, but I'm probably not.

I would say you are both right and wrong Wink

We have bottomed and yes we have several more months of sideways.

pish tosh

I would say you are both right and wrong.

You are right about the sideways.

But there's plenty of room yet for a stab down to the dark side.

I'd even prefer it that way.

I'll bet you a litecoin?

I will take it if Hairy won't.

I will wager 1 LTC we have already seen the bottom of this bear market.  That is, it will not go lower than 3122.

Suggest period of wager is until Dec 31 2019, or we go over 7500 on Stamp in USD (or under 3122) - whichever is sooner?

Edited for clarity.

Nice asymmetrical bet you made there as the value of LTC is highly dependant on those of BTC Smiley

Not that either of you are gonna get rich on the bet though lol
1844  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 19, 2019, 09:04:35 AM
$300 for a raspi and an HDD!?!?!  son of a bitch, I'm in the wrong business
yes

I've been strongly considering buying one of the new easy-mode LN devices like the Casa Hodl.

suggest research the nodl https://www.nodl.it/
more money but more features and more to come


Anyone here have one of those casa hodl nodes?

I mean, what is stopping to replicate the software and run it on your own raspi+hdd?

Does it include some state of the art proprietary software like a gui/menu system for easy management or what?

I am ok with business doing business, of course, but I am surprised anyone haven't already come with a full free software implementation otherwise the premium for the convenience of a "ready-to-go" device wouldn't be so high.

casa already released the code, didn't they? https://blog.keys.casa/open-sourcing-the-casa-node/

Quote
In order to improve security for Casa customers we plan to open source as much of our trust-critical code as possible.

As a first big step, today we are open sourcing the code for the Casa Node. We are also announcing the first parts of a responsible disclosure and bug bounty program.

It looks like that "open sourcing" is something relatively recent starting two weeks ago and also that it is not clear if it will include ALL software. That would explain the current premium.
1845  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 19, 2019, 08:40:52 AM
$300 for a raspi and an HDD!?!?!  son of a bitch, I'm in the wrong business
yes

I've been strongly considering buying one of the new easy-mode LN devices like the Casa Hodl.

suggest research the nodl https://www.nodl.it/
more money but more features and more to come


Anyone here have one of those casa hodl nodes?

I mean, what is stopping to replicate the software and run it on your own raspi+hdd?

Does it include some state of the art proprietary software like a gui/menu system for easy management or what?

I am ok with business doing business, of course, but I am surprised anyone haven't already come with a full free software implementation otherwise the premium for the convenience of a "ready-to-go" device wouldn't be so high.
1846  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Bitcointalk.org collectible coin? on: February 19, 2019, 08:25:48 AM
A small run of a coin is obviously more costly than a larger one. It seems part of the idea of Theymos is to give the coin for free to some members that deserve it according to a not-yet-specified criteria. Probably a small group, more so if the coin features/quality make it costly.

Also that would leave many people interested "out of the deal".

Maybe the solution is to make a larger run, thus reducing the premium, and some people get it for free and the rest can buy it at cost? Also it is unknown where and how much the money going to cover the cost of the free coins is coming from. Another possibility is that there is a small surcharge on the paid coins to cover the cost of the free ones.

That would probably make a better coin be produced than if the budget was more restricted (ie. only free run).

Win-Win for everyone?

Also I would think a cool feature for a coin like this would be to have engraved (no holo) the nickname and or a user supplied public key (not a private one - not your keys, not your bitcoins you know). That would raise the sentimental value and meaning of the coin for forum members, and also substantially reduce the resell market of it.

Just some random ideas...

1847  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 19, 2019, 07:01:25 AM
Bleh... Unconvinced until $4000+


Snap out of it, bitserve.



u  r ruinin' dee paump moo.

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

(I hope) We will eventually come there. In the meantime, I stand my ground Smiley
1848  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 18, 2019, 10:43:59 PM
FRESH FROM WANGA/MASTERLUC TELEGRAM:

Original:

Идeм нa peтecт днeвнoй мa200 имxo. +cтoки cпocoбcтвyют, тaм paзвopoтныe бычьи фигypы.

Google translate:

We go on retest day 200 IMHO. + [stocks] contribute, there are reversal bull figures.

What do you think he means? A bounce from the 200 would be a rejection of the bull, or a breakthrough of the 200 would be a confirmation of the bull?

The latter is true regardless IMO.



I think he means a retest is due. And it can either be a rejection or a bullish breakthrough.

A bit obvious yeah.
1849  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 18, 2019, 09:51:41 PM
I am short

not personal,  but hope you get rekt, as I always hope for all shorts ::

one does not simply bet against bitcoin

especially not when its already been dumped for moths, there is nothing to dump anymore
coins are cheap

realise it, buy them, respect them Smiley

We are poor mic! Just face it!
1850  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 18, 2019, 09:33:38 PM
FRESH FROM WANGA/MASTERLUC TELEGRAM:

Original:

Идeм нa peтecт днeвнoй мa200 имxo. +cтoки cпocoбcтвyют, тaм paзвopoтныe бычьи фигypы.

Google translate:

We go on retest day 200 IMHO. + drains contribute, there are reversal bull figures.
1851  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Bitcointalk.org collectible coin? on: February 18, 2019, 06:56:58 PM

p.s.  O.P. I can’t believe the amount of users who follow your every move!!  Lol.  Never seen 90% of these users in collectibles over the last year.  They all can’t actually care about collectibles since they’ve never been here before.  That would leave 2 types of users IMO.  People who just want to kiss your ass or people just looking for free s**t!  Either way it’s sad. 


Really?

You sure you don't want to take a second thought about that claim of yours?
1852  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 18, 2019, 06:31:17 PM
At this point it seems like a sure thing we will be testing $4K soon. Maybe not today though. And maybe it won't break past it.

Shorters are sweating.
1853  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 18, 2019, 06:22:42 PM
Bleh... Unconvinced until $4000+
Well I hope you become convinced soon.

Me too Wink
1854  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 18, 2019, 04:09:53 PM
Bleh... Unconvinced until $4000+
1855  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 18, 2019, 06:09:07 AM
To celebrate the 10th anniversary of the forum Theymos is thinking about to make a physical coin giveaway!

Share your thoughts:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5111005.0

Hype!

Plot twist: You can only acces the 100k party with these anniversary coins.

Interesting thread and great idea.

But to be honest, if we ever reach $100K -which I hope but as I am still in "capitulation" mode I prefer to not take anything for granted- we will be able to issue our own fucking personalised coin-token for entrance... which will also serve as an "I was there" proof. How about that?
1856  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Bitcointalk.org collectible coin? on: February 18, 2019, 05:14:45 AM
This is a great idea.

If Mike Caldwell would do the run, as some people have suggested, that would be even more exciting as some sort of closing the loop from the first physicals.

To avoid counterfeits maybe a metal stamping (or laser engraving) machine could individually engrave a derivation of a user supplied public key so that an index of all originally issued coins can be published. Way better than a hologram unless someone intends to also store BTC on it (which I don't think is the point in this case).

Will keep on watching this thread Smiley

P.S.: Also it would be a good idea to make it from Silver. It's not like that would make it much more expensive to produce.

P.S.2: Titanium would also be great and it would in some way "show" the evolution from classic PM's to a more advanced store of value as Bitcoin represents. I think it is harder to manufacture (proof of work lol) though. Not sure... what do the experts say?
1857  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2019, 10:08:29 PM
Micgoossens has nothing to do with BTC. Micgoossens is kind of people that think it is easy to get rich quickly without any physical or other efforts.

He’s a trusted, active & valuable member of the small community we have here. We’ve all got to know each other over years of posting here, we all share the same dreams & goals.

You are a troll & nobody likes you.

Give me micG over you every day of the week.

I don’t give one second of real thought on that lunatic Roll Eyes
Still THX LFC

And indeed we share Some similar things as WO members

Got me thinking, Maybe real and true WOmembers should have Some sort of pin attached next to there avatar so we can always immidiatly see who the real members of the WO-pool are, and we can spot immidiatly where the turds float @ our WO-pool

Isn't that what the hats are being used for? lol
1858  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2019, 05:30:27 PM
Sorry to hear about your loss xhomerx and Dabs.

I am still waiting for my GOX compensation but there's always hope.

hey, about that

Did I read something recently that we have to re-submit our claims?  Anybody got the facts on this?

I had to resubmit my initial claim (from years ago) past year when mtgox entered into civil rehabilitation. I have not heard it was needed to do it for a third time.

I assume you did the last year resubmit, didn't you?
1859  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2019, 05:11:59 PM
Sorry to hear about your loss xhomerx and Dabs.

I am still waiting for my GOX compensation but there's always hope.
1860  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2019, 04:57:19 PM
The problem with the full body transplant is mainly making the neural reconnections. Once that solved most the way ahead is clear. Nanotech, microsurgery, automation, etc... advances in those fields maybe could lead to that. But I thought maybe some "crude" experiment with moderate success could have already been made in animals. It seems not.

Digital mind/upload is another way I don't think is viable as a life extending alternative. I mean, you could end with a similar person but it would just be a copy, not me, not my conscience of being me.... if it was even possible anyways.

Reversing/halting the effects of aging also sound like sci-fi at this time. More so the reversing part of it.

It's the full body transplant the only thing I could consider viable even if the tech to carry it is still way far.

There are artificial limbs (arms with hands and fingers) that were successfully attached to amputees. They were connected to the nerves of the patient, which was then able to use the arm as his own while also being able to feel things with it. So we already have this demonstrated not in animals, but in humans. The reason this is moving so slowly is because you can't just walk around attaching heads to bodies.

I don't see why the digital presence should not be you, as long as the connection is established properly (rather than just copying your memories onto a computer).

But there is a simple solution to this problem.

You create an interface with which you are simultaneously aware of your physical body and digital presence. Add a function that allows you to temporarily enable and disable either presence while keeping your consciousness. That way you can test for yourself if the digital version of you is still "you". Depending on the results of this you can choose yourself what you want to do.


May sound sci-fi, but is not. It's reality and has been demonstrated in rats and more primitive animals. Life-spans have been extended quite significantly in those and clinical human trials started this year. The problem with human trials is that, well, it kind of takes a lifetime to get one data point.

Full body transplant is the one that seems the most bothersome to me. At least for life extension purposes. This seems more like a "get a resilient body that won't get smashed in a car accident" kind of thing. It'd also probably be quite cumbersome to shit billions and billions and billions of human bodies for replacements.

But when I talk about full body transplant I mean what some people incorrectly call a brain transplant. The amount of neural reconnections needed for that surgery is... well... very far off of connecting a few thick nerves for a limb.

Also, for that to function properly it would need to be an exact genetical clone. Otherwise the brain would probably don't know how to properly "operate" the new alien body. I am speculating of course.

About the digital presence.... well, I am sure it would behave exactly like me. But it won't be me. Not my conscience self.

If you take the code of two programs and copy them. Then run each instance... each instance behaves the same, but it is not the SAME. It's hard for me to explain this in english.
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