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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: February 21, 2019, 11:58:37 AM
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Now all we need is for the mt Gox custodial to accidentally send all its Bitcoin to a burner address and the rally can finally begin.
I get your point, but that would be a terrible waste of valuable BTC. Enough is lost already. Most of Gox creditors will probably hodl. I sure will. Maybe I will even buy more with the FIAT part. Agreed, Mt Gox creditors have been in the game longer than most and understand these are dirt cheap prices. If they were to receive fiat and BTC around this price range I believe most would be converting fiat to BTC and hodling the BTC they receive. Its not like these coins are being sent to buttcoiners or central bankers, Gox creditors are mostly true believers. However if prices are above 20k when funds are returned, then sure, Id guess many would be dumping some coins. You guys are thinking way too rational here I'm afraid. A great many mt. Gox holders were "done" with bitcoin after mt gox and still are. Also note price is still up 10x since then so this money, they thought they lost, feels like a windfall to them (and not savings). Add to that the percentage of mt gox creditors who are in financial duress, by w/e reason, and I believe there will be huge selling pressure from the mt gox coins being distributed. But hey luckily by the time there will also likely be significant upwards pressure so maybe it will only cause longer consolidation or slower growth. Take a look at the creditors list. We are talking about only around 200.000BTC. Ok, now look Josh Jones... IIRC his credit is like 40.000 or more. There are a few like that. They have HUGE holdings besides their GOX credit. Don't you think they would sell from their own stash in advance? And probably are more than already done on selling? Yes, some people will sell, of course. Some people will buy with the FIAT part. And, more importantly, whatever happens it will be over soon. Finally.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: February 21, 2019, 11:55:36 AM
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Now all we need is for the mt Gox custodial to accidentally send all its Bitcoin to a burner address and the rally can finally begin.
I get your point, but that would be a terrible waste of valuable BTC. Enough is lost already. Most of Gox creditors will probably hodl. I sure will. Maybe I will even buy more with the FIAT part. Agreed, Mt Gox creditors have been in the game longer than most and understand these are dirt cheap prices. If they were to receive fiat and BTC around this price range I believe most would be converting fiat to BTC and hodling the BTC they receive. Its not like these coins are being sent to buttcoiners or central bankers, Gox creditors are mostly true believers. However if prices are above 20k when funds are returned, then sure, Id guess many would be dumping some coins. To be honest, if prices were above $20K I would probably sell some of my own stash knowing I would later replace it with the Gox compensation. So no, even in that case I don't think the impact would be after the distribution. It probably is already more than discounted.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: February 21, 2019, 11:32:21 AM
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Now all we need is for the mt Gox custodial to accidentally send all its Bitcoin to a burner address and the rally can finally begin.
I get your point, but that would be a terrible waste of valuable BTC. Enough is lost already. Most of Gox creditors will probably hodl. I sure will. Maybe I will even buy more with the FIAT part.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: February 21, 2019, 09:57:26 AM
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did some bears just got recked? edit: this is a bitfinex chart, on bitstamp it does not look that violent Looks to me like scalpers doing its job below a major resistance. Rinse and repeat. oh thanks, that's called scalping. Here I learn something new every day It can also perfectly be rekts.... I am just guessing because it looks like a good price range to do it.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: February 21, 2019, 01:26:39 AM
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Bitcoin is in its early years. A fair comparison of its volatility would be to go back to America in 1492+. Those natives had a fair share of gold "reserves" which they valued but not as much as the European "discoverers". I wonder how big was the volatility of gold there during the first years/decades going from just being nice gifts, to trade them for mirrors, to end in fucking "wars" costing human lives. Now tell me about the volatility of gold price. P.S.: We could also talk about the volatility of oil in its first decades. It was completely worthless at the beginning. Will Bitcoin market cap be some day as much or even more as that one of gold and similarly stable? I don't fucking know, it's too early to say.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: February 20, 2019, 11:13:28 PM
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I think IOS/Android is already good enough if you only keep small amounts in your wallets and If samsung comes up with a very good security then they might even replace trezor&ledgers. I still wouldn't put more than a couple of hundreds on that phone but I also don't carry much cash with me anyway. So whether it is Galaxy S10 with super security or iphone 7 doesn't make much difference to me. If your phone gets stolen, your money is gone. The only difference is, the thief probably won't be able to steal your coins from the s10. I also don't think people would keep their life savings (like $50k or $500k) on that phone neither. Because no matter how good the security on that phone is, I wouldn't trust samsung. I don't trust trezor or ledger neither. So what's the point? The point would be to use it the same as you use your fiat pocket wallet. You just load it with enough for your everyday spending and reload it accordingly when needed. Convenience and limited risk. Advances like this, LN, etc... are the way to go for mainstream adoption IMHO.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: February 20, 2019, 01:39:07 PM
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[jbreher] So this bcash shill, big block fanboy who tries to tell naive folks in bitcoin forums they should abandon their valuable btc and buy this scammy shitcoin is still around here? Either completely masochistic or - much more likely - paid shill. I wonder how many of those who believed the ongoing misleading, scammy posts of this shill have lost money because they bought worthless bcash. and even after all his arguments are proven to be misleading/false, even after loosing all the battles, even after the split, even after complete defeat, he still comes back in here and keeps shilling with the same lame arguments that weren´t true the first few rounds. shame on this guy. doesn´t seem to have even the slightest trace of honor in him. very sad. why the fuck he isn´t posting in bcash forums, why here? paid. disgusting.
i dont recall jbreher ever saying to dump btc for bcash_lol, at least here in WO. he has made a choice based on his understanding of the protocols and potential advantages. hes well aware of the potential use cases of each. and hes one of the smarter people here and at least understands both sides. now, i dumped my bcash_lol except for a small amount im to lazy to do anything with. im a 100% believer btc. please note im not defending jbreher, he is perfectly capable of defending himself fine. i just think your post comes across as crass, misleading and generally unbecoming of a WO participant. He did in fact dump some BTC for more Bcash and even some more BSV than BCH. Other than that I think he has an extremely healthy BTC stash and is trying his best to hedge every possible outcome even if biased by wrong perceptions. His money, his call.
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Economy / Collectibles / Re: Bitcointalk.org collectible coin?
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on: February 20, 2019, 01:31:27 PM
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I'm not a collector, but a Bitcointalk coin somehow sounds very attractive. Until now I haven't even joined any of the many giveaways because I don't want to dox myself, but I might have to reconsider for this anniversary edition.
Getting a PO Box is a good way to prevent this. Or sending it to a friend, which is what I plan to do. It's not like I need perfect opsec anyways.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: February 20, 2019, 01:25:00 PM
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Hope you all have your 80x longs in place by now. Even you bitserve.Getting ready for a breakout, rekting shorts, mouths, and ass holes on it's way. Up you go baby!! I am poor now. I can't buy more atm but I can HODL strong! Let's see how this round 2 goes....... P.S.: I am at record BTC count now. I always am, even if it increases extremely slowly.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: February 20, 2019, 09:20:17 AM
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I recognise that I am currently being biased by my actual circumstances, which are far from ideal to increase my risk stake. Otherwise I would probably be acting very differently. I need to be extremely cautious right now, even if that means I am giving up to some potential (yet risky) profits. Again, a mans gotta do what a man's gotta do.
Lot´s of hodlers feel that way I think and it is refelcted in the charts: bears somewhat exhausted, but bulls still a bit shellshocked from the November dive. Even hodlers that would want to even go down with a sinking ship had to consider to sell in order to not go down completely in real life. Yes, real life can be a bitch sometimes. I can afford not to sell any of my stash, but to put more money into it in my current circumstances would be reckless. YMMV.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: February 20, 2019, 04:48:23 AM
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The fact that we are hovering near $4000 while many people are still waiting to buy at $3000-$3300, $2800, $2500, $2000 and even lower is... Fine.
Of course it doesn't mean we can't have another lower bottom.
Just saying... but I don't know what I say. Mind you.
I am witnessing slow and in-progress un-capitulating... whoaza!!!!!!.... No, didn't you read we can have a lower bottom? I will remain capitulated until further notice. I know. I know. Rome was not built in a day, just like "uncapitulating" is not going to. Welcome back to the beginning of the end of your capitulation. When I start sending new deposits like a mad monkey, that will be the signal of my end of capitulation. Fair enough... Just like any good inside trader, you should not disclose to us about the exact end of your capitulation until you have well-established your BTC stash. just saying. Bleh, my stash count won't change much just by my fresh fiat. That's probably what makes me refrain for buying right now. At this point it would be easier to increase my stash by trading than by my available fiat. Unless I went full retarded and bet it all I have... which I won't. Being a very little fish in this pool I see absolutely no problem telling my actions. Hey.. bitserve, ... a few posts back Searing confessed to an amount of BTC sales and the amount that he has so far been able to purchase back (presumably at a bit lower prices than the sales price). I can relate to his situation, but I don't want to provide that many specifics about things that can happen to cause a person to sell more BTC than preferred. I do believe that it is less of a BIG deal for HODLers like Searing and perhaps others in similar circumstances to be forced to sell part of his/her BTC stash when their BTC stash is in decent profits. It would be much less desirable for someone to sell portions of his/her BTC stash if the BTC stash is not in profits.... which would be a sign of having had over-invested at too high of a price Currently, I have re-established decently strong BTC buy back points at several places between here and $2k.. including several additional buy back points that I have recently re-established in the supra $3k price arena. If I don't buy back (because the BTC does not reach those buy orders), then that is o.k... too... Like many BTC HODLers/accumulators in this thread, I feel that I have stacked a decent quantity of BTC to feel a preference for going UP. Also, when the BTC price does begin to go up (that is if it does), then frequently a lot of us will be posting our regrets that we did not buy a bit more at $3,xxx or whatever other number that we failed to execute our buying of BTC. On the other hand, the reality of the matter is that with our total cashflow and cash availability, it might be foolish to buy exactly at these prices and even at any supra-$3k price because we might not have enough fiat, in reserves, to justify such a purchase... and still be insured for sub-$3k, if it were to happen in the coming months. I think Searing doesn't mean that he has bought back, but that he has recovered some by selling his mining equipment. Anyway, considering that he basically only got rid of around 10% of his stash and extracted enough fiat to be covered until full retirement, he obviously did the right thing. And still have more than enough to accomplish an awesome jackpot if Bitcoin keeps growing the following years. A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do. I recognise that I am currently being biased by my actual circumstances, which are far from ideal to increase my risk stake. Otherwise I would probably be acting very differently. I need to be extremely cautious right now, even if that means I am giving up to some potential (yet risky) profits. Again, a mans gotta do what a man's gotta do.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: February 20, 2019, 04:20:17 AM
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The fact that we are hovering near $4000 while many people are still waiting to buy at $3000-$3300, $2800, $2500, $2000 and even lower is... Fine.
Of course it doesn't mean we can't have another lower bottom.
Just saying... but I don't know what I say. Mind you.
I am witnessing slow and in-progress un-capitulating... whoaza!!!!!!.... No, didn't you read we can have a lower bottom? I will remain capitulated until further notice. I know. I know. Rome was not built in a day, just like "uncapitulating" is not going to. Welcome back to the beginning of the end of your capitulation. When I start sending new deposits like a mad monkey, that will be the signal of my end of capitulation. Fair enough... Just like any good inside trader, you should not disclose to us about the exact end of your capitulation until you have well-established your BTC stash. just saying. Bleh, my stash count won't change much just by my fresh fiat. That's probably what makes me refrain from buying right now (plus other personal circumstances... timing sucks). At this point it would be easier to increase my stash by trading than by using my available fiat. Unless I went full retarded and bet it all I have (and NEED)... which I won't. Being a very small, even insignificant, fish in this pool I see absolutely no problem telling my actions.
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