500, why so few attendans?
thats quite an impressive turnout Didnt the one in the US have like 3000? Never heard an official Final Number the the word at the conference was 1100 registered attendees.
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It is always a great idea when bitcoiners can meet irl and exchange ideas.
Glad you feel that way, hope to see you there! I'm not sure I'm ready to go backwards.
Bitcoin needs credibility and legitimacy.
What would you consider going forward? Always open to suggestions, so long as they are doable with transparency and for the better of the community. M.N.W. You "title" says it all.
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It is always a great idea when bitcoiners can meet irl and exchange ideas.
But M.N.W. ??
I'm not sure I'm ready to go backwards.
Bitcoin needs credibility and legitimacy.
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There may be a possiblity of recovering your funds.
Please post a signed message in this thread proving your owner ship of the address you used to send Kruniac the funds.
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Seems I'm another victim unfortunately. Do you want me to provide the PM conversation?
Pls post the details. How do you want me to present it? chat logs PM's payments any and all details proving he offered shares and that you paid for it.
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Seems I'm another victim unfortunately. Do you want me to provide the PM conversation?
Pls post the details.
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So evidently Kruniac has been selling the same ASICMiner share several times over.
He just admitted to it in irc.
Please post payment info and any other details here if he owes you any money.
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Purchased. He send first. Received bank transfer from me. Thx.
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Is roman already working for crypto.st??
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I'll take them all.
PM me.
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While direction came from a state agency this is not a state issue. Direction is clearly coming down from the federal level. Almost all state will march in line.
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No I don't think it is furrycoat. Fbastage has is right http://otc.armed.us/otc/?%Thylight%check the other ip and nicks associated to them. That all match up to the same guy. We have dox on him if anyone has any issues. Claims his accounts where hacked.
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Interesting read. Wonder who are the FBI agents that seem to hang out on this site? Can you tell us a little more about your chase meeting? Like the level of contact that told you this, and your background as a business customer of Chase? Also, did you tell them you were going to be a MSB business? It would seem that BFL is not having much problem keeping their account open and most of their payment processor problems seem to stem from the number of customer complaints. Do you think that is because they are merely a vendor of machines? You can be certain that the FBI, CIA, SEC and other three letter agencies all have at least interns browsing these pages. Chase meeting was with a banker and a manager. Neither of them had any idea about bitcoin. But the did seem to be reacting to directives from the Treasure/FED/Bank Regulators that ANY currency business is problematic. I told them we had registered with FinCEN as an MSB but that did not matter. The risk profile for the business line was enough for them to nix it. I'm not familiar with BLF's banking or payment processing problems. But they are shipping a physical product and they are not in the currency business. Yes the Chase Bank Manager recommended a Credit Union also. FYI Dwolla's partner is Veridian Credit Union.
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Interesting read. Wonder who are the FBI agents that seem to hang out on this site? Can you tell us a little more about your chase meeting? Like the level of contact that told you this, and your background as a business customer of Chase? Also, did you tell them you were going to be a MSB business? It would seem that BFL is not having much problem keeping their account open and most of their payment processor problems seem to stem from the number of customer complaints. Do you think that is because they are merely a vendor of machines? You can be certain that the FBI, CIA, SEC and other three letter agencies all have at least interns browsing these pages. Chase meeting was with a banker and a manager. Neither of them had any idea about bitcoin. But the did seem to be reacting to directives from the Treasure/FED/Bank Regulators that ANY currency business is problematic. I told them we had registered with FinCEN as an MSB but that did not matter. The risk profile for the business line was enough for them to nix it. I'm not familiar with BLF's banking or payment processing problems. But they are shipping a physical product and they are not in the currency business.
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He's blocked even the bitcoins in Bitfloor accounts. THERE IS NO GOOD REASON TO BLOCK THOSE BITCOINS.
What the hell? Why is this the first time anyone has even bothered to bring this up? I was under the impression that all Bitfloor bitcoins could still be easily pulled out, and have been. Perhaps in your blind rabid defense of an incompetent you missed that in the first days of this disaster? You other defense about Bank B not being obligated to cash it is correct, BUT I think you miss the point, Bank A (who issued the check) MUST cash it BY LAW. Minor Miner, don't argue with the internet lawyers. They are much smarter than you. Especially when they are a internet professor AND an internet lawyer. You can't win. I am putting together an introduction packet to take to my bank. This is with a view of having a place that will accept the bitfloor check and disburse the money to it's rightful owners. I do not expect this effort to bear fruit, but I plan to do it right. In that letter, I will give my personal 1 page introduction to bitcoin, and a reference to the March FinCEN clarification, and a cover letter telling how bitcoin fits into the bank's business and gives them an advantage with their existing customer base. I have heard that there is an FBI position document on bitcoin. I do not know if this is public, or leaked. I would like to avoid having a leaked document in my packet. If anyone has some links to other documents I invite you to mention them here. I want to have all of the negative and restrictive news in my opening packet, so that the bank can't discover anything that I have failed to include. I think these documents should be from federal agencies, recognized financial groups, or other sources likely to be valued by bankers. I will not use any sources from Destroy Banks for Anarchy and the like. The Rolling Stone and Mother Jones would be good sources, if they have published anything. It would also be helpful to have a list of those places that have been closed or brought under scrutiny. Again, if the bank finds out from me, I am still credible. If their due diligence shows that I have been transparent, I maintain my credibility. Good luck with that. Please report back Here is the link to the FBI paper http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/threatlevel/2012/05/Bitcoin-FBI.pdfJust came back from a meeting with Chase Bank. They would not open a new business account for any business dealing in any type of currency, digital or otherwise. Too much pressure from the FED.
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