again. although its been said in other topics. badecker likes to make new topics just to repeat his crap.

so lets deal with it one more time. before he forgets

out of the so called 50% that badecker think are asymptomatic. they are not actually all true asymptomatic
it works out that ~30% are pre-symptomatic. meaning that they will get sick and incubate and spread the virus but they were just questioned about it too soon
10% are minor symptomatic. instead of the 3 main 'mild symptoms they may only have 1 and so very minor they dont realise it.
then there is about 10% that have no incubation/symptoms/reactions

but in all categories.. and even in this final 10% that may not spread it via their breath/mucus, still do spread it if they touch/hug a sick person and get it on their hands/skin clothes and then touch another person. they can pass it on via touch

this is why for 9 months america has been saying wash your hands dont touch your face. and keep your space.

its not been 9 months of 'dont cough spit or sneeze if you got the disease'

yep because even if you think you dont have the disease incubating you can still pass it on by touch/proximity
s even when not sick you may not feel anything on your lungs.. but you still have to worry about your skin and clothing and things you touch

20 million people visit american hospitals each year due to having something bad that will kill them.
however not all 20mill die. so that shows that hospitals help.
yes certain things cant be treated due to how severe the ailment is. EG you cant fix a brain so a head injury from a road accident has high odds of fatality still. but again some people can be saved. where as they are guaranteed to die if just left at the roadside for a few hours without any support/treament

hundreds of thousands of people do not die due to carelessness/negligance.
i know you think every hospital death is a negligence case. but thats just your ignorance neglecting rational thought.

yes hospitals make mistakes and you hear about scandals.. such as the UK NHS maternity ward scandal this year where they found that due to a political decision to reduce the number of c-section births. some troubling natural births ended in tragedy due to trying to force a natural birth in conditions where a c-section would have been more proper.
but to put it into your religious, natural philosophy. the baby would have died anyway if home birthed. so statistically in your world the hospital was not the problem but the baby not being in the right position for natural birth was.
yes the hospital could have helped more to avoid the babies death by performing a c-section. so its been legally deemed as a negligence. but in your nature loving philosophy even you have to admit that the baby was not destined to live.. right

it can be done. the currency can be decentralised. the issue you are concerned with is the registering of people to get a privkey.

this does not need to be a central birth registry department offering crypto keys instead of social security numbers. this can be down decentrally by maternity wards. every birth is registered by a doctor and a cryptokey is made and handed to the parents.

people can throughout their life then sign messages as their proof of id.

in my years i have used my privkey to sign messages to prove my identity. rather then needing identity to prove my privkey.
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as for the game of trust.
well that would be where everyone creates say 4467600 coins (1 coin for every 10minutes of life for 85 years life expectancy) and that 'stash' can be spent.but also parts of the hoard can be locked(fined/taxed) if that person has wronged someone. much like how silk roadv1 locked up collateral and didnt release it back to the seller until the buyer acknowledged delivery. and where the buyers collateral is locked until they acknowledged delivery. thus making the buyer honest to admit they got delivery.

trust rating systems based on reviews does not work. but putting up collateral and being able to show your collateral gets released every time shows you are of good honour. those with a high amount of collateral locked up passed expiry shows they do wrong alot. also by not having collateral locked up due to mischievous acts means you then have more to spend.

eg a 1 coin loaf of bread contracts a 5 coin collateral lock. meaning your 5x better off just trading the bread honourably than to scam someone for a loaf. after all why loose 5coins over the sake of scamming 1 coin

bitcoin code is not made of decimals.
bitcoin raw transactions are and never have been measured in btc

the code does not allow for it.
alot of changes and rule breaking will have to occur to allow more sharable units of measure

in code. things are measured in satoshi's
yep look at a raw transaction and look at the values being moved. they are not being moved in decimals of bitcoin. but being moved in satoshis

the basket term known as a btc is of no more importance as the basket term of ubtc
raw tx data does not understand btc or ubtc or mbtc.
it only understands the smallest unit of measure. that has been branded satoshi

there is nothing stopping anyone branding 1000000000000 sats as a 'superbitcoin'(10kbitcoin) right this second. because it does not involve any hard code changes. its just human gui interface and human mind buzzword. same as btc mbtc and ubtc is

there is code that say that a block reward started at 5000000000 sat and that reward is halved every 210,000 blocks. where if you do the maths it roughly works out that when the reward cant be halved anymore there will be  2099999997690000 satoshi's released over 120~ years(34 block reward halvings)

whether you measure satoshis in baskets of ubtc, mbtc or btc. means nothing for the code.
the basket terms are just human buzzwords for easy math of understanding that 100m of the smallest measure is a basket called a btc. and there will eventually be ~2.1quad units of measure or 21m basket measures of btc

increasing the unit of measure at code. and then having to re calculate new basket amounts of 1000x more units of measure per basket. defeats the whole scarcity argument.

yep having 'coin' translate to 100,000,000,000 units and then having to do silly new rules for new bech32 tx format transactions to understand units of measure(shares) of things 1000 more quantity of sharable units. and further mushy math game play to round up/down when trying to pay legacy tx types will cause more shareable units. and alot more cludgy code

again. to save me multi posting the ignorant people that dont get it.
bitcoin code does not use decimals.(what your imagining is the graphic user interface. not the hard code consensus)
if you cant grasp units of measure at code level. and the real hard limits at code.. and cant grasp share-ability. then you cannot even understand scarcity

bitcoin code does not work top down from btc to decimals
it works from satoshis up to basket buzzwords like ubtc mbtc btc

heck even a few devs wanted to rearrange the baskets to 'tonal' terms. and a couple devs stil do think of value measures in tonal basket terms.

i personally been using 'bits'(ubtc) for a few years now.

i appreciate that for 12 years bitcoin(currency) has had hard rules that have fixed the approx end limit to be 2.1quadrillian sharable units. i appreciate for 12 years that a basket of btc was hard limited to 100000000 of those units of measure.

i appreciate the scarcity of 2.1quadrillian units of measure. but this topic is used as a jumping platform for certain people to try and stroke the sheep into thinking adding 1000x more sharable units wont break the rules
but seems some greyscale fangirls want to fool people into thinking that more sharable units is ok

the oxford vaccine is cheaper for british people because it was made in britain and insured by the british government, so for british people they dont have to pay all the logistics of lengthy deliveries or insurance premiums or licences.
however importing germanys pfizer vaccine is where the UK/US government have to pay extra for logistics and create a UK/US insurance policy(behind the scenes the government does sue/penalise pharma. but without having the citizens do all the leg work of personally suing pharma)

america have a deal with the oxford vaccine via astra zenica. which means america can create and distribute the vaccine within american borders(under licence) which makes it cheaper then pfizer for many reasons.. but still not as cheap as oxford vaccine is for british people(due to the US government insurance trust and licence).

basically this is the countries where the vaccine is the cheapest for that country
EU: biontec(pfizer)
UK: oxford(astra zenika)
US: moderna

if they need to import or share resource for production then there are other costs added on

but if you are just given free cash. without work. then that cash is worthless

if a peach farmer is given free cash while he sleeps. why would he get out of bed.
why would he want to sell peaches.

having free cash for no work, for all of your life will make people not want to work.. heck you yourself would not work if you had free cash, as your other topic you were crying about why people should get free $600 for a onetime deal. imagine your cries if it was $600 a week for the rest of their lives. you would probably become suicidal.

PoS does no work because there is no work. its just if you already have money you can stake it to get more money. and those that dont have money wont get money
PoS is the ploy of rothschild.(using your conspiracy buzzword)

PoW works because it has work.
because gold will always cost over $900 minimum because it will always have over $900 of mining costs. the supply/demand then plays with speculation from $900-$2k depending on human desires. but golds underlining value due to the costs of its mining will keep it at $900+
if gold could be found at 2 ounce every 10 minutes using nothing more then a dinner spoon. then golds underlining value would be $1 and speculated at $1-$3

same with bitcoin. if you put the work in, that work has a underlying value.
heck even you as a peach farmer should know these basic principles of workvalue

there is no PCR fraud. but there were PCR mistakes
yes in january/feb. some labs were not using disposable pippetes or small batch reagents and so some tests were getting cross contaminated. as were using some reagents using old pipettes, causing bad batches of the chemicals. but this was not a broad thing for all labs all the time. this got sorted quickly.
by march they had better procedures and policies in place.

however yes china did close down its airports in january.. heck i found it strange when i was monitoring flights still coming out of wuhan and i was saying it was not like a strict martial law lockdown. then later realised it was not chinese flights but other countries 'repatriation flights'.
even i said this would be a disaster and what should have happened was leave them 50k people in wuhan and just pay them to extent their holiday/business trip.

and yes it was the 'orange man bad' because he did down play it as cold.. and strangely 9 months later there are still loyal idiots to trump that still to this day want to call it a common cold

other 'orange man bad' mistakes was for him to put his inexperienced son-in-law incharge with trying to procure PPE. which became a disaster in many ways in feb-march. the silly idiot was actually purchasing PPE that was meant for hospitals. and took it away from them and then hoarded it in federal warehouses and then sold it to the hospitals at higher prices.al whilst hospitals then had to find other vendors
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as for thinking the 'second wave' and lockdowns were just case counts in the community.. no. having a lockdown is when it starts affecting hospital capacity.
if it was not having an affect on hospital capacity the only advice would be to just mask up and stay at a distance to avoid getting sick and stay home if sick. once hospitals numbers went up then the restrictions went up. when hospital cases went down. restrictions relaxed.

the main thing is when hospital capacity starts to be impacted then crucial things need to be restricted to ensure hospitals dont go overwhelmed.
when people ignore the advice. and thus cause more cases due to the ignorance. then the advice needs to be toughened

because even those not needing a vent but do need some intravenous medicine or just some cpap/nasel canular air support wont get any if hospitals are overwhelmed and if they cant get any, then those severe but not critical will become critical. and more deaths would occur.
here is an actual reason behind the restrictions

too many idiots think they can ignore advice because they think if they get sick they wil always be the special people that will get top treatment. but what you idiots dont realise is if hospitals are overwhelmed no one wil be there to help you. hospitals are not magic men that just fly to your house and make you better. there is a limit to their support.

yep trump fangirls think 'because trump had oxygen support and lots of meds and he got better in a few days, ill get that too'. no. if hospitals are overwhelmed you wont. and no amount of trump fangirling will change that

 and if you are having breathing issues where oxygen/intravenous meds is needed.  you will suffer. you do not have a special illuminati guarantee card with loyalty points that will earn you a hospital bed if there are no spare hospital beds. being a trumpette wont save your life. trump support and admiration does not make you immortal. you are not special just because your a trump supporter.

also trying to dismiss covid as a 'common cold'' wont make the virus run off and be afraid to attack you. you are just deluding yourself and you will end up being the ignorant group that make the restrictions more restrictive because you refused to accept the basic advice

the 'papaya can easily come up hot' if the lab had bad processes/bad reagents. the country where u got ur story from had a president that questioned why his lab had weird case numbers that had random cases that has no logic in tracability. he suspected the lab bought some knock off chemicals or were doing things not to manufacturers instructions. he hen fired the dubious lab tech and the supplies procurer.

if your going to mention something atleast do the research on it
more interestingly about south africa is that for decades their average life expectancy has been below 50 and so with hardly any of the population being over 50 the fatality rate from covid is alot lower
tanzania(papaya test country) average life expectancy is 48

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oh and to pre-empt the yet again repeated conspiracy script of pepsi having covid. that too was where a guy done a bad test (he didnt even use the reagent chemical)

back in early 2020 people were not social distancing and not wearing masks so they were getting higher viral loads.
the reason why the severity has decreased is because people are standing at a distance and inhaling less virus thus less of a battle

.. as for deathrate of sars-cov and mers-cov those % were based on tests done of patients already in hospital because they didnt have a field test for people randomly in the community.

so if your going to quote numbers atleast research the context of the numbers

but thank you for proving that social distancing and masks make a difference by mentioning the change of severity from pre lockdown and post lockdown

no where in any time of pharma or any corporation has the corporation been liable. they have insurance companies for that.

when you crash your car. its your insurance company that handles the claim and pays out compensation.. right. as thats what insurance companies do. they take on the liability.
its not a new thing for 2020. its been around since 1988

atleast try to do your research.
again for emphasis people have car insurance so that the insurance company take liability. same things for other business stuff and even for hospital stuff.

this way people dont have to go through the crazy/lengthy/delayed process of suing people. yep insurance takes the hassle out of things. and things like vicp and cocp is the government liability scheme

tvbcof now scratching at the bottom of the barrel of 'new world order' dang these conspiracy nuts are going backwards.

funny when these same nutters pay homage and kiss ass loyalty to a single LEADER of the freeWORLD. calling him the most powerful man. and not wanting him to move out of office.

then next day try saying theres a new world order of tyranny.. and pretending to be against it.
you lot spouting out 'new world order' are just puppet repeating scripts. you have no clue.
plus you flip flop in and out of support of tyranny without realising it.

by the time you wake up to current events the 'new world order' would be an old world order

now thats been said. yes the virus is real and there are real reasons for people to take personal responsibility for respecting other peoples health and personal space.

yes there are some oppertunists using this real event to also do other things ('one stone 2 birds')
but while you getting distracted with your silly new world order scripts. other bad things are happening and you are too distracted to see it

well if you put effort in you get income out.

in bitcoin if you have an asic you will get a share of the reward your pool gets

oh wait i think you must be wanting to talk about PoS mining where you dont put effort in but just 'be available' for a time period hoping to get paid for nothing

funny part is upper respiratory tract is the throat nose and mouth... thats all
covid actually attacks the lungs and organs and if swallowed the digestive system
lung damage is LOWER respiratory tract.

why oh why is it the same 5 people that never even bother to do basic research

your links are about the pharma not being liable.. congratulations you just found out something that every other smart person knew for a long time.. welldone

now you have to look at the GOVERNMENTS compensation scheme.

so without you spinning in circles crying about not being able to be SLAPP happy with pharma. go try to catch up with the info about the government scheme.
yep i said it. stop circle jerking the 'cant sue pharma' links. as your just going in outdated info

try to catch up
ill give you a little hint... VICP
What are VICP's objectives?
    ensure an adequate supply of vaccines;
    stabilize vaccine costs; and
    establish and maintain an accessible and efficient forum for individuals found to be injured by certain vaccines.

The VICP was established after lawsuits against vaccine manufacturers and healthcare providers threatened to cause vaccine shortages and reduce vaccination rates. The Program began accepting petitions (also called claims) in 1988.

welcome to 2021. and i hope you have now caught up with 33 years of understandings about vaccine makers liability actually being the governments held liable
yep. its been this way for 33 years

to correct you.
vaccine companies for decades are never personally liable. as thats what liability insurance is for.
however in past decades to underwrite a policy took alot of bureaucracy and high premiums..
yep to do each phase of trials took months of insurance paperwork just to get approval to do trials.

now the government is basically the insurance company holding liability over vaccines they gave pharma companies approval to do phased trials earlier this year quickly. hense why the trials progressed to ne phases without 6-12 month 'bureaucracy' delays per phase

all that has changed is instead of charging say $500 premium per phase trial participant which would then reflect as a $550 vaccine price pharma comp charges. the government take liability and so they get the vaccine for under $50 and they put funds aside into a 'compensation trust' to cover any liabilities.

and because its the government. and done via a government scheme that is more straight forward they dont have to go through the expense of fake claims expenses.

mindrust and gyfts. you have been told a couple times now that the compensation scheme is via the government and that process via the government is much more straight forward and less delayed and less problematic compared to suing a corporation.(if you have a genuine injury claim)

your both pretending that lack of suing a corp means lack of process

will you just do your friggen research and stop crying at things you dont know
it takes less time to research the facts on google then it does to go searching for a conspiracy site and copy their stupidity

many greedy people without injury like to fake injury and make claim hoping for auto-payouts under settlement agreements thats its cheaper to pay out rather then investigate the claim..
but sorry you SLAPP happy greedy ambulance chancing con artists. no free money for you..

but for those with genuine disability due to vaccine the government compensation scheme is better and faster and more straight forward.

so i see the only reason why conspiracy nutters cry about not suing a company is because they are the greedy injury fakers that just want money. so take your cries elsewhere.
if you genuinely cared about anyone that was injured/disabled due to a vaccine you would have actually researched the government scheme and seen the benefits of it and known that the government behind the scenes then done the bigger punishment towards pharma. thus a win.
but if your still crying. then you are just money hungry fakers with no clue what your talking about

healthcare workers want it. but honorably they are saying the old/vulnerable need it more.
however by giving up their 'slot'/appointment. they think they can just get it later. and its now being told to them they probably wont get a second chance

doctors/nurses care more about their patients than themselves and want there to be less people getting sick. however the vaccine co-ordinators are saying the doctors/nurses need to have it first so they dont get sick thus able to treat patients.

its like a ping pong game. one side wants less patients getting sick. other side wants less doctors getting sick so they can continue working

yes a good percentage of doctors will just have 14 days isolation at home with cough and fever. but the co-ordinator knows if doctors get sick from the virus by not being vaccinated thats 14 days not working to look after patients and that can cause more loss of life if theres no one to care for patients.

republican complains of pace of vaccine.
republican claims its due to 60% not wanting it.

funny part is the vaccine has only been in ohio for a week. the republican doesnt realise it will take MANY months to vaccinate everyone
if you have 320m people. even if you could vaccinate say 1mill a day. thats still 320 days (10 months)

also the nursing home staff think due to low amount of vaccine. the vulnerable/old that NEED it should get it first and the republican is just saying the nursing home staff should take their dose now because he doesnt know the next time the nursing staff will get a chance later
those saying no now for honorable intentions may not just be relisted at the back of the queue once the old/vulnerable are given theres

those idiots sound like they spent too much time in the freeman cult