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8741  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? on: March 15, 2021, 02:57:39 AM
^^^ and above.

The point is the way the Israel tests are being done. They are being foisted on their people.

If you don't get the vaccine, you don't have any rights to do anything in Israel.

That's not the way to do it. Get volunteers, or forget it.

Cool

you really need to do some background research.. and not take things on face value

they cannot file a claim that the vaccine formula is a new experiment. those experiments where the 3 phases trials. its passed them so no longer 'an experiment'
then you can check and see that they dropped that avenue of claims. and now want to treat the data swap with the vaccine manufacturer as the "experiment" where the people getting vaccines were not given informed consent that their personal medical records were being passed to pfizer in exchange for the vaccine

by the way the antivax crowd already lost/dropped the 'non-voluntary/mandatory/compulsory vaccine jab' claim.. because there is no mandated threat of arrest if vaccine appointment was missed/ignored/rejected

isreal government "vaccines will not be mandatory/compulsory"
yep if you dont want it just dont ask for an appointment... easy

so... try to stay up to date.. your falling behind again
8742  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? on: March 15, 2021, 02:11:08 AM
https://brandnewtube.com/watch/covid-19-vaccine-celeb-exposes-fauci-039-s-misinformation_cSEEcRBcuP6gFB6.html

Some Mexican actor does an AMA with Fauci and destroys him.

Watch after 10:00 if you want to get the TLDR.

Basically Fauci says he also wants the younger people to get the vaccine because he doesn't want them to spread the virus and 2 minutes later he says the vaccine only helps with the symptoms but doesn't prevent you getting and spreading the virus.

Wtf

imagine you have lowgrade symptoms and your exhaling the virus.. you are only exhaling maybe 2% risk to another person
they inhale it with other clean atmospheric air. they only fight 1%(air diluted) of full viral load. = no symptoms and statistically 0 spread to a third person

but the more a person gets in the more symptomatic they will get fighting it. and the more it then multiplies to then spread to more people

so although a teen with no symptoms is technically a 0 spreader
not all teens are going to be 0 spreader

there is still a risk to teens of getting more then a 2% load (minor fever but teen doesnt realise they sick as its minor fever. so thinks they are asymptomatic. but can spread.. it just takes longer to be a viable amount being passed)
there is still a risk some teens get 10% load where they are mild
so turning that mild into a minor/asymptomatic. is technically 0 spreader.. but not factually

a teen sitting 3foot beside a person with a mask not facing each other. for an hour.. no harm
a teen in bed with their BF/GF facing each other no mask for an hour.. yep even a asymptomatic can spread it to their BF/GF and they get mild symptoms

its more about not having teens face to face for an hour non stop that makes them technically non-spreaders.  not the fact that they wont spread. but that their lifestyle is its own social distance.
teens dont wanna get caught by parents sneaking their BF/GF overnight. so they just do their romance stuff in 30seconds-1 hour(very lucky BF/GF if they can last 1 hours)

so if it took 1hour of <2foot distance then technically they would be spreaders.
so its luck teens are anti-social and rebellious and cant last 1 hour arm-in-arm with another person. certainly not their teacher/parents
playing games in their bedroom alone with closed door is in many ways better than a facemask
but a facemask is better if your dry humping someone for more than an hour breathing on them
......
they know a 30% mild symptom. is
2foot = 2x air dilution and 15% hit in 2 minutes
                                    = 30% hit in 4 minutes
4foot = 6x air dilution and 10% hit in 4 minutes
                                    = 30% hit in 12 minutes
6foot = 18x air dilution and 3% hit in 4 minutes
                                    = 10% hit in 15 minutes
                                    = 30% hit in 40 minutes

which as you can see the advice even since last year.. 15minutes at 6foot is the limit  
as its roughly a 10% risk from someone with 30% mild
thus if you get it you may only get 10%(minorasymptomatic)

so they know 2% minor/asymptomatic is
2 foot = 2x air dilution and 1% in 2 minutes
                                   = 30% in 1hour
4foot*= 6x air dilution and 0.33% in 2 minutes
                                   = 1% in 6 minutes
                                   = 10% in 1 hour
     +cloth face covering = 7% in 1 hour
            +surgical mask = 2% in 1 hour
           +N95 respirator = 1% in 2 hours
* side by side both facing forward not face to face
8743  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? on: March 15, 2021, 01:56:48 AM
The International Criminal Court Has Accepted Claim of Violating Nuremberg Code by Israeli Govt
https://canadianmale.wordpress.com/2021/03/13/the-international-criminal-court-has-accepted-claim-of-violating-nuremberg-code-by-israeli-govt/

the "experiment" they speak of is not some different formula vaccine.
the vaccine has gone through the experiment stages in phase 1.2.3 so that experiment is complete and people are getting a vaccine of the formula that passed the formula experiment.

the actual experiment is that isreal done a deal for priority listing of distribution in exchange for extra data.
usually what happens is when a government organises its healthcare system to give vaccines the healthcare report back to government. and the government make their own statistical analysis and only report severe adverse events back to the vaccine company. to stop them if its a bad batch. fine them if its other things.

however vaccine manufaturer wants more medical data in exchange for more distribution.. such as those having severe issues to report all of them to manufacturer along with the medical records of pre-existing illnesses and known medications taken before vaccine
same goes for the minor-mild symptoms. report all side effects of all levels and also the medical records.

..
its this sending all statistical data that is being deemed an 'experiment'.. not the vaccine
its not a new formula experiment
its a data analysis experiment
technically its an investigation... more technically its an 'investigation using data obtained without consent'
8744  Other / Off-topic / Re: Consensus on Colors on: March 15, 2021, 01:07:49 AM
the OP is talking about colour. not conformating of teaching your self someting is something else

means
someone reading this physically sees it as the same range as blood.. traffic stop lights

but some people see it as grey(colour blind)
this is because their eye cant tell the light frequency of the red spectrum so just throws it into the monochrome spectrum

however the colours are not randomly picked as you grow to associate tomato/blood/traffic stops with the english word red.

its actually your brain knowing the frequency wavelengths of light

its not that a red wavelength refracts in the eye to change colour (to a totally different wave length).
a strawberry emit the same frequency to everyone (unless colourblind) and everyone brain knows its the same frequency they all get

as for assigning a colour to that frequency
this is not some pot luck brain trick of randomly taging a shade to a frequency.

because the frequency has minor alterations

because if you picked randomly that
400nm was what we deem yellow
425nm was what we deem blue

then because theres no increment of green inbetween. we would see a weird sudden colour swap of yellow-blue rather than a nice progression of violet to indego
imagine instead of a steady smooth transition it was instead
||||||

looks ugly.. no pattern. no reference of it being linked to any close nearby shade

so knowing when you are seeing strawberry red.. you and everyone else is seeing its near the orange and pink family but no where near the blue family of frequency

..
next is the false theory that people have different assigned spectrum start-end 'colors'
EG
VBGYOR
BGYORV
GYORVB
YORVBG
ORVBGY
RVBGYO
but this is not the case.
each shade goes from darkest at the edges to clear/brightest at the centre
so white/yellow will always be the centre
yep whatis the sun.. and pure blinding light.. is the center colour. and yes its white/yellow

which can then only leave 2 options of formating the brains colour spectrum
VBGYOR
ROYGBV

black dark forms at both the ends of the spectrum
but knowing a dark purple/blue sky is at one side and dark red at the other.

your brain knows that purple is at the lower bands and reds at the higher bands of the nm wavelegth
so the order is
VBGYOR

it definetly wont start with yellow and end with blue and red beside each other at the other end

people can actually say orange in 1 direction turns to yellow and in other direction turns to red. when presented with known wavelengths.
and they all see their vision no longer able to see whats beyond the red spectrum(infrared). so they know red is the final shade. then going backward. they know that violet is the first colour they see when coming from ultraviolet(375) to the visible violet spectrum of 400nm
8745  Economy / Speculation / Re: How long would it take for one Satoshi to equal one US dollar? on: March 15, 2021, 12:34:35 AM
factor in the 226byte tx
if 1sat/byte. no one would want to pay $226 just to move some coin.

i would say the devs will need to make btc
when 1sat =10cent 1sat/23byte.. (basic tx $1(10sat))
when 1sat = $1 1sat/115byte(basic tx $2(2sat))

because no one will want to use bitcoin at the current fee formula of single sats to single bytes if sats were >$1
8746  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Where would you sell if you had bought 10 Bitcoin at $100? on: March 15, 2021, 12:22:17 AM
Nobody expected that Bitcoin will made it this far, early Bitcoin investors would’ve have sold it if it reached 5x or 10x because during its early period its future is unclear because of different issues including regulations. Now that most of us realise its potential I don’t think that people made past mistakes will repeat it again and again.

not true .i got my hoard in 2012. when they were only $6 each... i havnt sold yet.
i personally havnt set myself an exit price.

i actually find it easier to hold and not play now then i did back then

..
in 2012 i was playing with 100% of my hoard. i was day-trading it to increase my hoard
in 2013 when it went to $120/btc(20x) i only played with 10% of my hoard.
last year i played with less than 2% of my hoard.
this year not even 1%

any profits i make i convert to fiat and thats now been my (young)retirement income.. my 98% ill just let it stay where it is untouched

with the profits i make playing with small % i can live comfortably and not need to worry. its more then repaid my initial investment. so i dont keep track of the combined $ value of my hoard.. i just mess around and play with my <1% play money.

in short. i have no exit price in mind. its more of a 'when i cant be bothered with bitcoin anymore. ill leave'
8747  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin back to $ 10,000? on: March 15, 2021, 12:10:15 AM
i just done some calculations
of all the UTXO(coin movements) 6.8mill coins of the 18.6m circ shifted in the last 6 months. where over 75% moved while the price was over $37k

75% of active movers(last 6 month active users) wont wont to sell at a loss below $37k

minin costs minimum cheapest cost is about $22k so miners on the most efficient asics wont sell below $22k. and hobbiests with higher costs wont sell that cheap.
infact hobbiests with higher mining costs will stop mining if it went down to that level and just buy like crazy as it would be super cheap to just buy instead of mine if it goes below their higher personal threshhold

so there is really high support/resistance. to let it drop below $37k and even more support pretty much all active bitcoins that will not sell below $21k

..
in short. forget $10k.... 22k is the ultimate bottom now. and a good chance $37k is a good strong support
8748  Economy / Economics / Re: Can the average buying of some companies be considered a sign of the bottom? on: March 14, 2021, 11:44:12 PM
you cant guess when a company will sell or what their mind is thinking as their exit price.
but what you can tell is via the price they paid. the value they would never sell below.

this can be useful for knowing what a true bottom is if there was a massive dip/correction

imagining mining cost bottom of ~$22k right now. miners wont sell below this. and the hobby miners with higher costs would prefer to buy then mine if the price went down to that level forming a good solid support pressure to not go below

then there is the utxo mover value.
currently there is ~10mill coins in mid-active circulation(moves regularly or within the last 2 years)
there was about ~7mill coin in the active circulation (moves regular or within last 6 months)

lets concentrate on the last 6month of coin movements. setting a value (usd) of when they last moved to be treated as the sentiment of what they last valued it the last time it moved.
01.14% of coins have moved in last 0-24hours and sentiment value of >$60k
03.10% of coins have moved between yesterday-last week and sentiment value of >$50
08.59% of coins have moved between last week-last  month and sentiment value of >$47
15.48% of coins have moved between last month-3months ago and sentiment value >$37k
07.73% of coins have moved between 3month-6month ago and a sentiment value of $10k

this is basically saying all traders in last 6 months. wont go below $10k as they are in a losing position
but this makes it only 36% of al coins over last 12 years.. being valued above $10k

if we are to ignore the 64% of coins that have not moved in the last 6 months. and just say they are not involved in exchange price decisions.. then

out of the remaining 36% if we call that the 100% exchange sentiment
3.16% will refuse to sell below $60k... so add this to the next column
11.77% will refuse to sell below $50k
35.63% will refuse to sell below $47k

78.63% will refuse to sell below $37k

so id call a mining support wall of $22k and a active exchange sentiment support for $37k

i personally think the $22k is the ultimate bottom no one will dare pass
and $37k as the good support resistance where 3 quarters of active traders wont sell below
8749  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why people do not change their views on: March 14, 2021, 08:18:00 PM
cognitive dissonance. is the lack of agreement of a thought. its the game or turning reality into fantasy by not agreeing with reality

this is mainly done by those that cant grasp the concept of a fact. and so play some fantasy illusion as their version of what they think it means. just to fill in details they dont understand.

there is a high correlation between the less cognitively aware someone is, the easier they are to be fooled into believing lies

im not saying atheists are smarter than religious people..
im saying that religious people have some cognitive element missing in their life which they need to fill with their beliefs. they dont trust their own subconscious thoughts so they plead out to the atmosphere for answers/direction/decision.

its like republicans. cant make decisions for themselves so seek out a master to lead them. and they auto trust that leader no matter what. even if it gets them into trouble



8750  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? on: March 14, 2021, 06:21:34 PM
The next country suspends astra-zeneca vaccine
https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0314/1203889-niac-recommends-suspension-of-use-of-astrazeneca-vaccin/

A few million doses of the right astra would have fixed the issue. Someone needs to get the sack for odering the wrong one.

its a bad batch..
..it just goes to show they react fast. they dont just carry on regardless.
yep they actually do check and have precautions..

seems tashs latest revelation is actually proof that opposes tashs beliefs that no checks or precautions occur

give it a week and another batch will be shipped out.
they will also look at where/how the batch failed and tighten up the processes to reduce/remove that risk of recurrence
8751  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: March 14, 2021, 05:59:48 PM

ER Doctor and Advanced Trauma Life Support Professor: ‘I have never seen a patient sick with COVID-19. We are being deceived and manipulated.’
https://humansarefree.com/2021/03/er-doctor-and-advanced-trauma-life-support-professor-i-have-never-seen-a-patient-sick-with-covid-19-we-are-being-deceived-and-manipulated.html

Former ER doctor 1992-2012
then set up his own 'family clinic' and worked as a famiyy doctor

he has many paranoid opinions. from how countries waste money on the olympics instead of supporting refugees
i think is main snap into the paranoia rabbit hole of delusions and lies was when his township voted to have his horse taken away because the conditions of its stables and lack of free running area was a form of neglect.
i think it was this point he really went into the anti-gov paranoia

anyway thats not the point.
for the last 9+ years he has had a self-owned clinic which he is shareholder of. he prefers herbal remedies over real medicine and was definitely not an ER doctor in a hospital during the pandemic.

what he has seen is "people imprisoned in their homes due to PCR tests"
umm.. ER doctors dont do home visits

also got to love his disclaimer
Quote
2.2    The medical information is not advice and should not be treated as such.
3.1    The medical information on our website is provided without any representations or warranties, express or implied.
3.2    Without limiting the scope of Section 3.1, we do not warrant or represent that the medical information on this website:
(a)    will be constantly available, or available at all; or
(b)    is true, accurate, complete, current or non-misleading.
4.1    You must not rely on the information on our website as an alternative to medical advice from your doctor or other professional healthcare provider.
4.4    You should never delay seeking medical advice, disregard medical advice or discontinue medical treatment because of information on our website.
he is saying his page is a lie and he doesnt want to be accountable. he does not want to say its true or accurate

when a guy has to put a disclaimer saying that what he says on his own website should not be treated as fact.. means its a lie
8752  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Plain and clear, so you can easily understand the dangers of the vaccine. on: March 14, 2021, 05:13:40 PM
Get the shot. Your life will change forever. Can't be reversed by any means known... ever. Possibly, in the future, people who get the shot now, will be excluded from society, like the lepers in Bible times.



Unfortunately You don't have choice but to be vaccinated. You can't travel to other country unless you are vaccinated. Sooner all the offices will make it mandatory for all the employee to be vaccinated. Government will make it compulsory for all the citizens to get vaccinated in the later stage.

How can you avoid it  Huh

In the USA, final governmental control is with the local people. Most of them don't know it. And, it is usually local, often on a person to person basis. Also, there are a load of ways to implement it. How does it work? It's call the local 12-person jury.

If you check with the people of the USA, a good segment of the population is in favor of the vaccine, and a large segment is against. Either segment will have to do what people always do. They will have to get together, and use the jury to outlaw the the mandates of the other group, at least for specified individuals, or for locals. But they can only do it for themselves and their group. However, this is the final step when required. There are many steps in between.

The in-between steps have to do with State governors, and even State legislatures, overstepping their authority. Governor Newsom of California messed with the people so much that there is a two-million, signed petition for his recall... only 1.5 million is required to get it on a ballot. The people might move slowly, but when they move, they can't be stopped.

In addition, regarding the jury, Net search on Ammon Bundy, and the wildlife refuge in Oregon. Ammon and others took over a federal wildlife refuge with guns. Most of the members of this group made deals with the prosecutor, and received prison sentences. Ammon and his brother didn't make deals, and were found not guilty by the jury... twice.

The people are just barely starting to move legally and lawfully. All the marching and protests are simply requests by the people for government to do it willingly, at their request. Newsom in CA is the people starting to move legally. There are legal actions being take against Cuomo in NY as well.

first of all the court jury tactic. wont change laws.
as you said they used a petition against statesmen.. not a jury

as for the ammon bundy.. he may have given the order but he stood back and let his stupid idiot minions do the work. knowing that the work was illegal. and so only the minions got caught
much like trump. he said lets walk to the capital and fight... but he didnt walk.. he stepped back and went home and then denied he had any involvement

so goodluck trying to get a jury to change a law. goodluck trying to get a jury to find an organiser that hid away..
8753  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Plain and clear, so you can easily understand the dangers of the vaccine. on: March 14, 2021, 10:32:52 AM
they are not making vaccines mandatory.
no one is going to be arrested at their front door by military for refusing

countries will relax restrictions based on statistics of hospitalisation numbers.. not based on tattooing people individually who have had the vaccine and give them open-access. whilst imprisoning people without a tattoo

please can you idiots get out of fiction/fantasy and start actually looking at reality

you dont have to fear
military threats of arrest/death unless you obey
bidens 4th july only applying to vaccinated people
borisj's summer opening only applying to vaccinated people

if you dont want the vaccine. just say no. but then dont be an idiot licking strangers faces trying to force high viral load infection on yourself. if anything think about your own safety and strategies to minimise the load you may inhale when in public. less load=less severity
8754  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? on: March 14, 2021, 10:06:30 AM
tvbcof..
i understand your philosophy
take africa importing rice(via NGO's) as the main diet staple means rice manufacturers can control who starves and who survives..
i get it. you think vaccines manufacturers can decide who lives and dies based on which regions they give excess distribution to to have high survival rate. and which regions get delays, lost batches. bad batches where the survival rate is decreased

you think that there is some nefarious eugenics game being played where some CEO is making a deliberate and evil decision of actually desiring to have certain populations protected vs other populations left to suffer

but here is the thing.
1. manufacturers supply to NGO and GO's via NGO/GO ordering it. no order=no supply.. and its the NGO/GO that then distribute it more regionally

2. the reality is not some deliberate eugenics plot to ration under developed area's for sole purpose of genocidal plots. its actually just a order/bidding process problem.

if some country pays $4 a shot and ordered it in july 2020. they get priority over some developing country bidding $2 but didnt present their bid until september 2020

yes europe made a bid after the UK so yes the UK got priority first
isreal bid higher price and before the UK. so isreal got higher priority than UK

its not a genocidal plot.. is a supply and demand first come first serve list

i can understand under some scenarios. a vaccine company could see 8bill people and say if:
china 1.4bill(17%)
india 1.3bill(16%)
africa 1.2bill(15%)
europe 800m(10%)
america 320mill(4%)
russia 144m(1.8%)
UK 70m(<1%)
and so on
then thats what the 'fair' distribution should be. equal distribution per capita
.. but thats not how supply/demand works.. it works based on first in/highest bid first

its not genocide. its business
once tyou start to see the business decisions. you start to see its a logistics problem not a genocide plot
take:
the UK. if 1 factory has a 200k daily capacity. it can vaccinate 0.28% a day
europe. if 1 factory has a 200k daily capacity. it can vaccinate 0.025% a day

so yea europe has to scramble to beg borrow or steal vaccine shots from other countries. or has to make 11x more factories than the uk has just to get on par with the UK
africa has less facilities so also has to scramble to grab doses from neighbouring continents

so its a production and logistics problem.
8755  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Sources of information on: March 13, 2021, 10:02:16 PM
using twitter drama and SMA EMA is NOT technical analysis. its deemed as TREND analysis

true technical analysis is studying bitcoins UTXO set of coins moving in the last 2 years (active circulation)
hint(utxo age distribution)

things you can learn:
if mass amounts move suddenly this can be a shift in/out of an exchange. which can indicate the supply in exchanges shifting up and down.
.....
by tallying up the coin amount and the market price at that date of last move. you can aggregate the data to form groups of how much coin last moved between 20k-25k 25k-30k 30k-40k 40k-50k 50k-60k
that way you can put a % sentiment against coins of what people deemed their worth at the last move. to then know what they are not going to dare sell below.

EG if only
2% moved $50k-$60k then 98% moved under $50k so 98% could happily sell down to <$50k and still profit
22% moved $40k-$60k then 78% could happily sell down to $40k and still profit
82% moved $30k-$60k then only 18% would dare sell all the way down to $30k

you can then set a sentiment line of what you think the bottom line which 80% wont go below. which in my example would be $30k
...
looking at the bitcoin richlist of addresses.
the more addresses with balance over 1k. means more people putting funds into an exchanges cold store. this is another indicator of seeing how much supply is going into exchanges
less addresses over 1k coins means the exchanges are doing withdrawals. so less supply on exchanges

..
then you can look at the bitcoin mining cost. and look at the cost of mining at 4cent.
calculate the cost. and set that as a bottomline miners will refuse to sell below.
remember if the price is low near cost. some miners(hobbyminers with higher costs) stop mining and instead buy.. as its cheaper and faster to buy at these times.. so a drop in sell pressure and a rise in buy pressure forms another bottomline support.
obviously when the price is high. miners will not be buying but instead mining. and they would be happily selling for profit. meaning expect prices to go down/not be sustainable to stay up high

once you form the indicators of these base value measures of support. you can then look at the price. and if the price is only 10% above value. then thats good. it means little chance of any further dips.
if the price is 300% above value. then there is alot of non-sustainable bubble. meaning expect a bigger risk of dips/corrections

once you can find a difference between price and bottomline+sentiment value. you can then see how much speculation(trend drama) is involved in this bubble area between value/price
meaning if its low.. then any news can spike a new high.. if its already highly inflated then more news may not affect it much.

then you can start playing around with trend analysis of moving averages to gamble on the ups and downs
8756  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: March 13, 2021, 04:50:29 PM
cuomo has done some bad things. like:
.mixing elderly covid people with healthy old people to cause cross infections in a known group of frail people
.not giving care homes the required protections/support to prevent/reduce risks related to his orders.
.under counting those elderly people who then die.(hiding/destroying evidence)

he does deserve both civil and criminal punishment

but if people done any court action via badeckers freeman method. cuomo would get away with it.
the best way is to use the court system as it is designed. dont make up fantasy court policy. instead use the actual court policy to ensure that there cant be any delays, stalls.mistrials.

going to court and saying "i am an unrepresented man, give me my property(dead relative)" would just result in the court saying "ok your a man. so what... your gender was never in question and you have had your property as you signed their release from the morgue to then go to the funeral home you chose to send them. cuomo doesnt have your property" - case dismissed

.a better claim is that you identify yourself as a relative of the deceased and claim that cuomo's orders directly caused your relatives death. and then was covered up. and you wish him to be charged and found guilty of manslaughter and other crimes related to hiding/destroying evidence - case approved/forwarded for trial
8757  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? on: March 12, 2021, 10:48:03 PM

aussie health minister spent overnight for observations in hospital.being given antibiotics and fluids.
if you want to call that critical. then you hve no idea what critical really is
im guessing he got diarrhoea and they think its a stomach bug.
(you dont give antibiotics for flus/colds/viruses/vaccines)
and then the 'fluids' well either he forgot to drink.. or too much is coming out the other end where it shouldnt

as for the aussy navy.. id say there were some personal that probably had temporary arm stiffness and maybe some joint pain..
when it comes to workplaces. they get very protective about not wanting to push people to work when not 100% so going to hospital for some painkillers and then back to work in a couple days. contextually is not a big deal.. definitely not what i would call a 'taking out the navy. nor genocide like many anti-vaxxers think

i had the vaccine. i had arm pain.. big deal. rather have arm pain than have lung inflammation
if i was working a manual labour job. id take a day off and ask for pain meds.

much the same as if someone had sickness/diarrhoea
much the same as someone with common cold.

but an arm inflammation wont cause severe/critical effects compared to what covid lung inflammation does. so vaccine is better than covid
8758  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? on: March 12, 2021, 07:51:57 PM
Covid-19: European countries suspend use of Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine after reports of blood clots

That the vaccine causes blood cloths is not proven and is being investigated but to me this shows that there was a bit of a rush. If the usual approval timelines had been followed, these doubts would have appeared in the pre-approval phase. Besides, it seems that the vaccine of this brand is the one with the most side effects.

Indeed, it is rushed, that's why side effects are yet to be discovered since clinical trials are shortened hence diminishing some possible effects in the body. And now, we are discovering. It is not a good thing that they put it already in human, but time is of the essence in this point in time, and given the positive outcome vs the negative, it is pretty good. But still must be wary for other kinds of effects, especially to old peoples and people with weak immune system.

the issue was not the vaccine design.. it was a fear of certain bad batch.. due to a event where 2 people both had blood clots. within 48 hours of a vaccine

imagine there are 10k people having a blood clot per year due to natural blood disorders.
the chance of them having a vaccine within 48hours of a bloodclot is like 0.15%
pencil math:
for every ~660 people 1 will have a bloodclot within 48 hours of a vaccine
not caused by the vaccine. but jsut bad timing of odds of 2 events in same time period
meaning it can happen ~15 times in a year. 15 of 10k will have a blood clot and vaccine at same short time

this has nothing to do with vaccines causing blood clots in healthy people
this has nothing to do with vaccines causing blood clots in blood disorder people
this is about the bad luck of an event a group of people having sometime in 1 year overlapping with a second event happening within that same year.. making 15 out of 10k having a bad luck of 2 events overlapping but not causal related to each other.

the odds of 2 people having a clot on same day is far less likely.
so when it does happen. they need to look into it.. and they did

its like setting 2 events
in one day a year your going to have a birthday
in one year you will get a girlfriend
the odds of 10k people getting a girlfriend within 48 hours of their birthday is the same 15 people a year
(yep no vaccines involved 2 events happened not causal linked on each other)

however if its found that 2 people had a birthday and got a girlfriend at same time. then thats really luck
and worthy of looking into the possible other variables to see if there was something that caused it to happen
EG birthday on valentines day

so yes 2 people having a vaccine and a bloodclot within 48 hours is a statistical anomaly worthy of checking out.. AND THEY DID
8759  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will the Lightning Network replace on-chain transactions sometime in the future? on: March 12, 2021, 04:20:51 AM
LN is not unique to bitcoin.
LN is multicurrency

you lock up your 1oz gold($1.7k). you play with banknotes($1.7k). close account collect 65oz silver($1.7k)
only paying $5 in $0.05 out
you vault your 0.03BTC($1.7k). you play with btcmillisat htlcs. you atomic swap for ltcmillisats. you exit paying $0.05 for 8.19ltc($1.7k)
8760  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: With a clogged network, users will start abandoning BTC for alts. Change my mind on: March 12, 2021, 04:08:05 AM
refuse to try out Lightning wallets

locking up BTC to play a partner. in a game of joint bank account chequebooks in a millisat denomination.. is not continuing to own bitcoin
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