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1  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What Work Now May Not Work Tomorrow on: July 05, 2024, 06:31:28 PM
At a long distance, no patterns work as casinos/bookmakers quickly identify them (thanks to progress and big data) and stop them. Once upon a time, memorizing cards worked in blackjack, once on sure bets worked in betting on sporting events, then betting against the favorite seemed to work. And many other things worked that I don’t know about, but sooner or later the casinos/bookmakers also found this weak point and corrected it. In order to find working patterns in modern conditions, you have to be either very lucky or very persistent, I don’t even know if it’s possible to do this on purpose.
2  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Copa America 2024 Prediction Thread on: July 05, 2024, 06:15:42 PM

Such rules force the favorites to attack more, but allow the underdogs to hope for a penalty shootout. In total, this has zero effect on the entertainment value of the tournament.
The fact that only the final match is played according to normal rules (and as we know, it is assumed that Brazil and Argentina will play there) devalues ​​all other games. Really annoying tournament: games start at 1/4, “shortened regulations”, the tournament is designed to see one couple in the final. You can also remember that this is the 5th America's Cup in the last 9 years. Complete nonsense.

Not that i am comparing the nations in it to to other nations but let’s be real here the European competition which is the Euros is by far a better competition than this Copa America in terms of competitiveness. I had thought it would have been more competitive with the inclusion of the northern American countries but yet it is just as boring as before. The matches in other competitions are been tried to stretch to but they are canceling out extra time again. Even the AFCON is better competition than this in terms of competitiveness.

Just like your frustration too, I am also fed up with the every two years tournament it is not making it exciting anymore. The excitement will be in a long time anticipation of it happen and not the two thing.

Agree. I also expected that the participation of the USA and Canada would bring some variety to the usual situation, but this did not happen at all. It feels like there are fewer teams, not more haha.
And by the way, this tournament reminded me of the League of Nations - the same lack of grace and routine. I imagine what would happen if Ecuador won this penalty shootout  Grin
3  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers➡Group Stage➡1/8➡QF➡HF➡FINAL on: July 05, 2024, 06:04:04 PM
Please no 0-0 score in 90 minutes... It would be really disappointing for me if it happens. Because I was expecting a couple of goals even if we saw extra time.

Both teams like to play open rather than being defensive. It would be a shame if none of them scores. Pedri picked up an injury by the way and I hope he is okay. He has a really bad injury history at Barcelona if you don't know. He is very injury-prone unfortunately together with being a talented player at the same time.  Sad  Anyways, let's see how the second half goes...

Edit: Spain have just scored! A nice assist by Yamal and such a great touch by Olmo, but not surprised as Olmo has a really good technique.  Wink

 Grin Your expectations were not disappointed.
It appears that the 1-1 scoreline between these teams has been repeated for the fourth time in the last five games. This is what I call stability. I wonder what the quotes were for this outcome, probably around 6.00. The result of regular time looks logical; after the missed goal, Germany seized the initiative, and Spain sat too low in defense, for which they were punished.
4  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The "Scatter" word getting more popular on: July 05, 2024, 05:03:37 PM
I also heard this word for the first time today. But in fact, I didn’t understand what the essence of the topic was. I think if the OP gets acquainted with the games that children play now (real children 5-8 years old and not teenagers), he will find that many of them are based on “casino” mechanics - solid loot boxes and other gambling techniques to lure real money out of players. I really don’t understand how this differs from a casino and why regulators turn a blind eye to this. I don't care when it comes to adults, but here there is a clear involvement of children in gambling.
Actually, I do hear my children sometimes playing Android applications with sounds that are nearly similar to the sounds in gambling games, especially slots. There are times I would run to them just to check what game they are playing and I am happy it is still Roblox or a game application for kids.
I am a gamer and so are my kids which is why I always check their history and the application they installed so that I can delete them if it's inappropriate for their age. Advertisements can sometimes be the key to why they are installing inappropriate games.

Yeah, games like Gacha games are similar to gambling and so does Roblox where kids are buying the Robux just to make their avatars beautiful or rush the game and gain full strength. There's an essence of gambling, especially in the boxes which they don't know what's inside.

Roblox is literally a casino for kids. In most games there, there are loot boxes in the form of chests or eggs, and as far as I know the randomness there is very harsh. There is no so-called guarantor (which most gachas have) and you can spend a lot of Robux (actually real money) on a bad day and get nothing. I mean that, for example, if the chance of an item dropping is 1 percent, you can make 500 attempts and not get it.
5  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers➡Group Stage➡1/8➡QF➡HF➡FINAL on: July 05, 2024, 04:57:35 PM
Looking at the odds by bookmakers, seems that this match will be balanced as the odds show that none of both become favorite.
Spain with about 2.7x and Germany with about 2.8x, so it is hard to bet on which team to win the match if we are relying on the odds.
By statistic during this tournament is also a bit similar because both teams are unbeatable so far but Germany with 1 draw while Spain with perfect wins.
Both team to score seems to be the most attractive market to bet because it is about 1.75 so I think it is better choice than to bet on 1x2 market.

In my opinion, BTTS is too risky since one of the teams (this is enough to lose the bet) may turn out to be good/lucky in defense. 1.75 does not compensate for the risk that one of the two teams will not score a goal. By the way, the first half has already ended and the score is still 0-0, I think towards the end of the game the teams will be less and less inclined to take risks, so the probability of a draw is growing very quickly, now this outcome is rated as the most likely.
6  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The "Scatter" word getting more popular on: July 04, 2024, 09:33:43 PM
New word I guess, I haven't heard about it before when it relates to gambling. On doing some little research I just found that it's even more popular on the online casinos now, wonder how I have heard of it here on the forum before. If it really is that interesting as they say it, I think a lot of young ones might want to hop on the wave and also try to make benefits. Gambling can be controlled to some extent but not totally. The young generations have become to exposed to the Internet that nothing can be hidden anymore from them. Most especially those that grew up with seniors who Usually gamble.

I also heard this word for the first time today. But in fact, I didn’t understand what the essence of the topic was. I think if the OP gets acquainted with the games that children play now (real children 5-8 years old and not teenagers), he will find that many of them are based on “casino” mechanics - solid loot boxes and other gambling techniques to lure real money out of players. I really don’t understand how this differs from a casino and why regulators turn a blind eye to this. I don't care when it comes to adults, but here there is a clear involvement of children in gambling.
7  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers➡Group Stage➡1/8➡QF➡HF➡FINAL on: July 04, 2024, 09:26:23 PM
Do you also think offside rules have turned into a ridiculous thing?  Huh  To tell the truth I have really started thinking like that.

For example the offside call for Denmark against Germany down below.



It's like only his toe is ahead. This is just insane... I believe the rules shouldn't be this strict. It must be like both of a player's feet should be ahead or something else but a reasonable decision in the end.

Just because of this situation we are witnessing really nice goals which can even change the direction of a game being disallowed in Euro 2024 and many other tournaments...

What are your specific suggestions? Should you be offside by, say, half a meter (50 centimeters)? But then, at the moment when an offside of 51 centimeters is recorded, we will return to the situation that is shown in your picture. I had my doubts before, but now I think that everything is fair - if in tennis the ball hits the line with an accuracy of a millimeter, then why should it be different in football? There is a simple recipe for the attacking team - the attacker should gain an advantage by starting under the defender and not starting on the same line with him.
8  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: July 04, 2024, 09:19:11 PM
They write that the date of the ceremony is determined by the fact that Zidane will be able to come and take part in it. This will be the biggest presentation since Cristiano Ronaldo. I can’t say that I’m a fan of such events for players who have not yet done anything for the club, but I will at least watch the summaries of the ceremony and I understand that football is largely a media business, so such events are necessary.

The first thing Kylian Mbappe will undergo is a medical examination in the Spanish capital earlier that day. Unfortunately for him, he suffered a nose injury, however, that probably won't affect his performance. No matter which round the French team goes to, Real Madrid has set the date to debut Mbappe, two days after the Euro 2024 final. If France is eliminated early, Mbappe will take a few days off, or take advantage of nose surgery, before appearing at the Bernabeu. I think President Florentino Perez will preside over the launch ceremony, along with honorary president Pirri. If over 80,000 people come to the Bernabeu as expected, Mbappe will become the player who debuts for the team with the most followers. Currently, the record belongs to Cristiano Ronaldo.

But I'm still questioning whether Kylian Mbappé owns the number 9 shirt? Because I haven't read any news that Real Madrid has confirmed that he will wear the number 9 shirt.

According to the latest news, he will receive number 9, even in the screenshot above there is information about this (although I don’t understand Spanish, everything is obvious there).
Will he have a separate nose surgery? I had not heard about this, I thought he had an injury like a bruise that would go away on its own. At least when I broke my nose I didn't do anything  Grin And I didn't wear a mask because I was just avoiding contact sports at the time.
9  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Copa America 2024 Prediction Thread on: July 04, 2024, 09:12:09 PM
Today I learned that the playoffs will take place without extra time (in case of a tie) and if the teams cannot determine the winner in regular time, they will immediately go to a penalty shootout.
That's really weird. I didn't know this.
I just searched about this and found out that it will only be the final match that can have extra time if the regular time ends in a draw.

I am not sure, but this decision may have been made to encourage the teams to attack more and try to win the match in the regular time.

Such rules force the favorites to attack more, but allow the underdogs to hope for a penalty shootout. In total, this has zero effect on the entertainment value of the tournament.
The fact that only the final match is played according to normal rules (and as we know, it is assumed that Brazil and Argentina will play there) devalues ​​all other games. Really annoying tournament: games start at 1/4, “shortened regulations”, the tournament is designed to see one couple in the final. You can also remember that this is the 5th America's Cup in the last 9 years. Complete nonsense.
10  Local / Разное / Re: Форум недоступен из России on: July 04, 2024, 01:59:33 PM
Похоже, охота на ведьм продолжается. Сегодня в сми появляется информация о том, что из российского app store массово пропадают популярные vpn-приложения из-за требований со стороны ркн. Как минимум убрали уже proton, nord, le vpn и red shield vpn.
Кто-то еще пользуется вышеперечисленными впн для доступа к форуму через ios? Как они функционируют на данный момент?

Я пользуюсь протоном но на андроид, работает все стабильно, но через специальные сервера а не через все подряд. На ПК он давно отвалился. Как я понимаю с иосом ситуация сложнее (они там вроде могут и запретить использовать/удалить уже установленное приложение?). В твиттере читал что помогает смена региона но возникают сопутствующие трудности (отваливается оплата в рублях).
11  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin betting on the 2024 US Presidential Election - Biden ... or ... ? on: July 04, 2024, 01:51:13 PM
It is going to be fun. Check this:


Biden was already struggling and the debate performance made everything worse for him. As per the latest polls, he is trailing even in deep-blue states such as Virginia and New Mexico. And it is getting really close in Minnesota and Colorado. Also, Dr. Eli David published a poll for POTUS 2024 a few hours back, and it shows Trump with a 58% chance of winning. Biden is at 3rd place, behind Kamala Harris. I am not sure who will be the Dem candidate, but it is going to be a wipeout for them.


It’s interesting how to evaluate the fact that Biden is ranked lower than Kamala - I remember that 4 years ago she was extremely unpopular and conspiracy theorists said that they were trying to push her into the presidency because Biden would leave for health reasons. And if you nominate her as a candidate right away, then she has no chance. I think that it is unlikely that she has become more popular over the past years, Biden has simply become hyper unpopular.
12  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2024/25 Season on: July 04, 2024, 01:32:15 PM
What about Bayernj.   Smiley
Maybe because they are use to playing against each other more often  in the Knockout  stage always but we can still say that they are the strongest for now since they've been so tough to challenge and overcome in UCL..
Next season, the only way realmadrid can make a significant impact the more using Mbappe is by doing all balls for goal to mbappe which means Mbappe will be their main goal machine just like halland in Mancity

For the last two years, Bayern (the process itself apparently began earlier) has obviously been degrading, so it already belongs to the general group of contenders who are above average but are not the main favorites. And I also suspect (judging by his performance at the Euro) that Kane has begun a decline and next season his help will be less noticeable. Next season Bayern will have a new coach and so far there are no prerequisites for him to strengthen the club or change anything radically; a lot will depend on what the draw and pairings in the playoffs will be.
13  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Copa America 2024 Prediction Thread on: July 04, 2024, 01:14:58 PM
Today I learned that the playoffs will take place without extra time (in case of a tie) and if the teams cannot determine the winner in regular time, they will immediately go to a penalty shootout. I wonder what this is for? In order for this tournament to be considered even less serious? Or is it hotter in the US now than in Europe and teams can’t play 120 minutes if necessary?
With this kind of regulation, outsiders can play bus and hope to last 90 minutes (which is much more realistic than 120).
14  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: July 04, 2024, 01:05:52 PM
We know Kylian Mbappe became a Real Madrid player officially on July 1. But for Euro 2024, he has been doing very well for his country so far and has led the team to a good position. Anyway though I have seen a few media reports that there will be a great deal for Kylian Mbappe at Real Madrid on July 16th. After the Euro final on July 15, Real Madrid has planned a grand celebration for Mbappe on July 16. 80,000 spectators will be on site wearing Real Madrid's new kit jersey to present Mbappe, and Mbappe will be walking in the number 9 jersey. It will be really interesting for a French youngster of 25 years old to have such a big event for Mbappe. Of course I'm also a Madrid fan so I'm waiting to see this event, if it's really official news I guess it will happen.


They write that the date of the ceremony is determined by the fact that Zidane will be able to come and take part in it. This will be the biggest presentation since Cristiano Ronaldo. I can’t say that I’m a fan of such events for players who have not yet done anything for the club, but I will at least watch the summaries of the ceremony and I understand that football is largely a media business, so such events are necessary.
15  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers➡Group Stage➡1/8➡QF➡HF➡FINAL on: July 04, 2024, 12:56:44 PM
England were the main favorites before the tournament (slightly ahead of France) and then it seemed logical. But it turned out that neither the head coach nor individual players (like Foden) can surprise with anything and play entirely mediocre. Now Spain is the actual favorite since they are rated a little worse than England, but they will have to play with the hosts of the tournament and then with an equally difficult opponent. And this seems fair since Spain have the best game in the tournament.

England has disappointed everybody that had high hopes that they were going to bring it home. They have not played like they want to win it but playing like they did not plan for the tournament. Spain and Germany are the best nation so far and they will be battling it out on Friday. England is lucky that they are not playing any of the two nations because they would had ended their tournament in the quarter finals if they played either Spain or Germany. The England players like Foden is proving why some Pep Guardiola critic always say he is not good at building individual players but a team player. His players only work well when they are playing together under him. No Manchester city player has proven themselves at the Euros and Foden is just one of them that is not showing up when it matters.

But KDB was still good, Belgium failed but I can't blame him.
England's biggest success is that France took second place in the group and went to the most difficult branch of the tournament. If France had played normally, we would have seen good semi-finals on both sides, but it seems that the main cutting will happen only in the top branch. It's paradoxical that England can become champions with such a bad game.
16  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: 🚀 Sportsbet.io 🎾 Wimbledon 🎾 Rapid Fire 🔥 Match 3 🔥 (5 July) on: July 04, 2024, 04:58:13 AM
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b. Humbert
c. Odd
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17  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: July 03, 2024, 09:22:11 PM
Not to bad, to me football has no sense in the Olympics.
It can't be considered a "fair" competition when a nation can't bring the best of the best but only young players and 3 over age of 21yo.

France will be probably the favorite anyway since they have a big selection of young stars.

That is why these “important” games are not broadcast anywhere and we learn about the results of the tournament from the news. But I would draw attention to one more aspect: clubs that invest hundreds of millions in players receive nothing from the fact that their players participate in such garbage tournaments and risk injury. The French national team really wanted Mbappe to take part in the Olympics (after the European Championship lol) and Macron himself lobbied for this issue. Thank God Real is adamant on this issue and Mbappe will still have a few days off before the next season  Grin
18  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can online gambling compete with national lotteries? on: July 03, 2024, 09:11:38 PM
I think for those who understand mathematics there is no choice. In the lottery, the RTP is initially less than 50%, plus if you win a significant amount, you will pay taxes (catastrophically high in some countries). In crypto, in the worst slots, the RTP will be more than 90%, plus if you win a serious amount, you will have a chance to evade taxes (quite officially - depending on how crypto is legalized in your country and at what point is considered making a profit, in some countries this is the moment exchanging crypto for fiat).
19  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers➡Group Stage➡1/8➡QF➡HF➡FINAL on: July 03, 2024, 08:54:41 PM
Before the quarterfinals began, here are the odds on the title holder:

England - 4.75

Spain - 5.00

France - 5.50

Germany - 5.50

It is obvious that England's path to the final will be much easier than the rest.
In general, fairly fair quotes and I must note that there is actually no favorite. Now compare that to the Cup of America  Grin

England being the top contender to win the title is just hilarious. Sure they are on the lucky side of the bracket but how would this team beat Germany, France or Spain in a possible finals matchup after barely winning/drawing against the the teams they already faced in this tournament.
Them being on top can be considered an insult for all the other competing teams left in the tournament.  Roll Eyes

England were the main favorites before the tournament (slightly ahead of France) and then it seemed logical. But it turned out that neither the head coach nor individual players (like Foden) can surprise with anything and play entirely mediocre. Now Spain is the actual favorite since they are rated a little worse than England, but they will have to play with the hosts of the tournament and then with an equally difficult opponent. And this seems fair since Spain have the best game in the tournament.
20  Local / Oбcyждeниe Bitcoin / Re: Продолжение адопшена биткойна on: July 03, 2024, 06:19:08 PM
Я уже в какой-то теме приводил данные о том, что большинство пенсионных фондов в США имеют хотя бы какие-то криптовалютные инвестиции, так что они уже давно начали и продолжают. Плюс есть мнение отдельных брокеров, что крупные финансовые организации сейчас согласовывают свои инвестиционные планы на ETF по биткойну, и во второй половине года будут начинать их постепенно реализовывать. Однако что из этого просто сотрясание воздуха для разгона толпы, а что сыграет, предугадать сложно. Хотелось бы верить в то, что именно наши решения принесут нам по ламбе, но и трезвого взгляда на жизнь тоже терять не стоит.

Биток все больше становится финансовым инструментом в руках воротил и в этом нет ничего хорошего. Что касается адопшена, то буквально на днях надо было купить кое-что и из доступных для меня опций были: бинанспей, лайт, усдт на троне и биткоинкеш!  Grin А битка не было. Етф, фонды и т.д. это хорошо но то что альты биток вытесняют из утилити сферы не внушает оптимизма.
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