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1241  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Bitwala - Pay Your Bills With Bitcoin in Europe on: August 22, 2017, 04:54:24 PM
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Fees for card top ups:
When you top up your card we exchange your Bitcoin (at the rate shown on your dashboard - my.bitwala.com) in Euro and load your card with that amount. Our fee is 0,5% + network fees.

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Iīve read that you cooperate with Bitpay. Can I assume that this is the same exchange
rate as displayed in the Bitwala dashboard?
https://bitpay.com/bitcoin-exchange-rates

Is there any other way to view the current exchange rate you use without a Bitwala account?
Iīm not a Bitwala customer as of now and would like to confirm, if your marketrate is really
as competitive as you claim in the Bitcoin Debit Card comparison on your website.

Thank you for your help.

1242  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Debit Card for crypto withdrawals in € on: August 22, 2017, 01:20:26 PM
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With Euro being the common currency in Europe, I'm assuming the entire Euro region would be considered a domestic withdrawal. I suggest you ask Cryptopay's support staff.

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Thank you for the review warningsigns!
The provider Cryptopay looks very good at first glance. I checked their FAQ regarding the quote above and you are right, it would be considered a domestic withdrawal.

I have another question regarding Cryptopay:
Do they use Bitpay? Or what is the source for the exchange rate when funding your Cryptopay account with BTC? I read that you will be charged a 1 % fee for topping up
your card and another 1 % fee when you load your card in a currency that is not your card currency (e.g. for a top up using Bitcoin you would
get charged 1 % and 1 % = 2 %). However, I canīt find the source for their Bitcoin exchange rate.

edit: nevermind, I found it at the mainsite of cryptopay.me  Grin
1243  Economy / Service Discussion / Debit Card for crypto withdrawals in € on: August 22, 2017, 12:06:31 PM
I know that as of today a multitude of projects is offering a traditional
VISA or Mastercard that can be funded using cryptocurrencies.
I have been researching the various providers for days now (Bitpay, Xapo
and so on) and have found that they often cater mainly to the US. This
is unattractive for European users like me, who would get
charged forex conversion fees for every transaction.

Does anybody of you use one of these Debit Cards that can be funded
using crypto in Europe? Which provider offers the cheapest fees and
is reliable?

Iīd be happy to hear from your experiences.


1244  Economy / Gambling / Re: FAIRLAY - SPORTS BETTING for experts - highest liquidity, provably best odds on: August 22, 2017, 11:55:40 AM
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2.  We will release the new site this week. Also BCH withdrawals are ready for release and will follow later this week. 

BCH deposits and a BTC/BCH spot market is already implemented and only requires some final tests. It will  will be available within the next 2 weeks.


3. Although we do not approve the Bitcoin Core development team anymore, we will only support prediction markets in BTC until November.  After the 2x hard fork we will reconsider the market situation.  If somehow feasible, we'd like to get rid of the current Core development team.





Great to hear that the new site will finally be released  Wink

I tend to agree with your sentiment regarding the Core development team. However, it is not really clear, whether the 2x hard fork will
actually happen at all. The signatories of the New York Agreement could still decide to shift their support to BCH or to abandon
the hard fork plans. But this is all speculation for now, I will wait until you have reconsidered the situation in November.

1245  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [OFFICIAL]Bitfinex.com first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading on: August 22, 2017, 11:48:51 AM
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I'm wondering how many people seriously believe that regulation means anything but you and your operations being thoroughly inspected, scrutinized, and examined by the authorities (after you completely disclose your identity). Not that I think unregulated businesses like Bitcoin exchanges cannot be doing essentially the same but since you don't have to follow some eerie KYC policies, their mileage will certainly vary

I wasnīt arguing for the importance of regulation. That is a topic for another day. Iīm actually inclined to agree with most of
your statements regarding the disadvantages of regulation for the average exchange user!

However, I was arguing for the importance of regulated exchanges in order to render a Bitcoin ETF possible.
Regulation is a huge headache for users and for the exchanges, but it is an inevitable outcome if the BTC market comes
to maturity. If BTC was mainly traded on regulated exchanges, the SEC (and similar institutions in other countries)
would have a hard time denying another ETF application.

1246  Economy / Exchanges / Has anybody used bitFlyer? on: August 21, 2017, 12:06:58 PM
bitFlyer (based in Japan) is currently the exchange with the highest marketshare of all
BTC exchanges.

1   bitFlyer   BTC/JPY   $374,405,000   $4073.27   15.17%   Recently  (Coinmarketcap)

Has anybody used bitFlyer? It is obviously attractive to trade at the exchange with
the highest marketshare and their fee structure looks reasonable.
However I couldnīt find any information, which countries are even accepted.
I know they announced to service certain US states in the last days, but how
is the situation for people based in Europe?
Is it possible to trade at bitFlyer from Europe? Are the verification
requirements reasonable?

Iīd be thankful for your experiences.

1247  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Does Bitcoin Cash have a chance at overtaking Bitcoin? on: August 21, 2017, 11:49:10 AM
Anybody else getting worried that this may be a possibility?  Huh
The volume is faked in Korea by Roger Ver.

Roger Ver owns most of the coins.


Most of the coins are owned by people who owned bitcoin pre aug 1st.  I doubt ver has more than a few hundred k Bcash, which is alot yes but its been reported he had 300k bitcoin anyway.  I should imagine a large % of people haven't touched their pre aug 1st bitcoin, probably like 80-90%. We have another potential fork coming also, just sit back and get rich off the forks imo.

Some people have advocated for viewing potential future forks as a kind of dividend payment for holding Bitcoin.
I agree with this sentiment and intend to hold both (or all) chains if another chainsplit is happening in November.

Besides, it is important that you make sure you donīt lose funds in the process of a fork. Some people
have fallen for fake wallets or other scams in the turmoil of the BCH chainsplit.
Make sure you only use legitimate wallets in the case of a chainsplit  Wink
1248  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Selling BTC for CASH in the United Kingdom on: August 21, 2017, 11:43:27 AM
Has anybody sold BTC for CASH in the United Kingdom?

 - How do you pay/calculate your tax?

 - How does your Bank react?

 - Do you need a solicitor?

 - Have you ever had any trouble with Law enforcement, because of Bitcoin trades?



Iīm not from the UK, but here are some general rules for dealing with Bitcoin withdrawals to CASH:
-if you are transferring a big amount, inform your contact person of your bank in advance
(there are numerous cases where people didnīt do that and did get their account locked, which
only causes hassle!)
-if you are selling only a small amount and very unregularly, you probably can get away without paying taxes
-depending on your situation and the tax laws in the UK you can make use of tax exempt amounts
-depending on what you want to do with the cash, you might consider purchasing in BTC
directly (e.g. using a service like Gyft to order from Amazon)

1249  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [OFFICIAL]Bitfinex.com first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading on: August 21, 2017, 11:33:25 AM
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I don't think there is any real connection (apart from cooked-up, of course)

What makes you think that shutting down the unregulated exchanges would actually help promote acceptance of Bitcoin ETF's? They will just find another excuse to reject the application. Even if all such exchanges are closed one day (let's assume that), you will still have to face the unregulated nature of Bitcoin itself. In other words, you can't make the whole scene regulated unless you somehow make Bitcoin regulated which is impossible without destroying it first. As to me, the unregulated exchanges should be your least concern since they are not the culprit. Bitcoin itself is

I concede that the unregulated nature of Bitcoin itself could be a problem. However, it could be sufficient for the SEC and other regulatory entities, if the
exchanges (= the points where cryptos are changed to fiat and vice versa) are regulated.
If the unregulated exchanges would be gone or only responsible for a negligible part of overall trading volume an ETF would likely be approved.

Imagine a world where the biggest 5 exchanges are places like GDAX, Gemini, Kraken (all US based) combined with some regulated exchanges
in Asia (e.g. Bitflyer, which is also expanding towards many US states). This would make an ETF approval much more likely.
In this scenario Bitfinex could still be functioning, but not at the current level of marketshare.

1250  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is Ethereum a threat to BTC??? on: August 20, 2017, 03:15:40 PM
Ethereum is an active threat, look at how high the market cap is.  And it adds functionality.

While it may add functionality, Ethereum has proven to be less secure than the time-tested Bitcoin network.
Besides, projects like Rootstock are developing smart contracts on the basis of Bitcoin.

I donīt really see Ethereum as a thread for these reasons. Additionally, it is very questionable, whether
the intended change to PoS as a consensus mechanism is feasible at all!
1251  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [OFFICIAL]Bitfinex.com first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading on: August 20, 2017, 03:07:42 PM
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That is, what is your point here? If you are not paid and you don't have some hidden agenda, why are you warning people from using all these exchanges? What is the purpose of that? Does it give you double pleasure when an exchange gets seized or ends up scamming after you warned people? Do you understand that it makes you into a complete crook despicable by everyone and his dog? Does that give you pleasure as well? Is this your choice too and what you are really looking for, i.e. to despised and hated?

I donīt know the motivation for his posts, but let me take his side for the sake of argument.
The shutting down of exchanges like BTC-E and Bitfinex could be beneficial for the whole
cryptomarket. One of the reasons cited in the original Bitcoin ETF denial was that
certain unregulated exchanges make up a big part of the Bitcoin markets.

If these exchanges would get shut down for some reason, this would facilitate the
introduction of Bitcoin ETFs. And we all know what this would likely mean for the price.

1252  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: have paysafecard (50€) want skrill/neteller/btc on: August 19, 2017, 09:19:07 PM
I need an escrow service, totally free.

is there anyone ?

Take a look at the Services forum:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=52.0

There you can find most of the threads where people offer their Escrow services.
However, I think most charge a small fee for performing the escrow. I donīt think it is a big problem to pay a
1 % fee or something similar, because with your trade amount this amounts only
to the BTC equivalent of 0.5 €.

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1254  Economy / Speculation / Re: Donīt you fear a sudden government ban ? on: August 18, 2017, 02:19:30 PM
I don't think there's a reason for the government to ban btc so there's nothing to fear. Btc helps in economic growth that's why I don't think they will ban the use of it. The government saw its potential that's why they decided to support it in the first place. The only thing they can do is make sure that the its uses won't get out of hand and make sure to properly regulate it by making effective bills.

How exactly does BTC help economic growth in your opinion?
A huge percentage of owners is just holding and doesnīt make any transactions at all.

The mainstream economy works, because most people buy and consume stuff. If someone buys BTC instead of buying
a TV or a new computer, the economy doesnīt really benefit.

In the future when BTC will be used more for purchases this could change, but currently I donīt really see it
as contributing to economic growth.

1255  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Bitfinex - price manipulation, fake transactions on: August 18, 2017, 01:47:33 PM

This entire explosion from March would've been a lot more reassuring had it not been tied up in this. There are really only two options here. Either the rest of the market has moved on and so much further up by the time the tide draws out on Bitfinex that it no longer matters, or we're going to have another 2014/15.

With knobs on.

You forgot the 3rd possible option. Bitfinex could make so much money from their exchange operation that they can easily replenish
any outstanding funds and unbacked Tethers.
They are collecting a part of their fees in BTC and could sell them at other exchanges at the current high prices of more than 4k $ / BTC.
It is not all obvious that they are not doing that already.

1256  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: WARNING!! Fake Bitmixer.io site! on: August 18, 2017, 01:40:23 PM
Facebook is slow in removing stuff like this as well! It may seem paradoxical, but they earn
good money from illegitimate advertisers and are therefore not 100% invested
in combating this kind of fraud.

Besides, big parts of their systems (this is the same at Google) are automatic
and work without any human intervention. Therefore it is possible that no human
has ever approved this, but it simply got included in the ad rotation automatically.

1257  Economy / Speculation / Re: May 15 ETF Review Already Priced In? on: August 17, 2017, 07:16:24 PM
ETFs may have a chance now that SEC are defining what is a security and not in the cryptocurrency ICO space

ETFs may have a real chance, if the offshore exchanges arenīt responsible for a huge part of
BTC trading volume anymore. With btc-e gone, Bitfinex in trouble (if you believe the rumours about
Tether), things are looking promising for a future Bitcoin ETF.

Besides there is this other ETF, not by the Winklevoss twins, who is taking a different approach and
therefore maybe has a better chance for approval.

https://www.btc-echo.de/ein-neuer-bitcoi-etf-geht-an-den-start/
1258  Economy / Economics / Re: Can Bitcoin also lead to corruption ? on: August 17, 2017, 10:52:14 AM
Corruption is everywhere.

With that, the answer is yes. Bitcoin can lead to corruption in such point that authorities may create a law making them earn money from all the Bitcoin transaction that people are doing. They may imply a tax for example which will be a requirement for people who invests on Bitcoin to pay that tax.

And how would they collect the money they are owed due to a law like this?
This sounds completely unrealistic and would never be introduced.

Especially because financial regulations are not global, but differ greatly between
various jurisdictions.

1259  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com | The Greatest Bitcoin Gambling Experience Ever! | 12 Exclusive Games on: August 17, 2017, 10:49:11 AM
I discovered a "bug" (or maybe a missing feature) in the Roulette game:

It is not possible to place a bet on 4 numbers simultaneously. In Roulette parlance
this type of bet is called a corner bet.

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Corner bets allow you to split a bet between 4 numbers in a square layout. For example, placing a chip on the intersecting point of 1, 2, 4, and 5 (which, visually, forms a square) gives you action on those 4 numbers.

This is not an exotic bettype, but rather one of the more common bets.
Iīd like to see if that possibility was introduced or repaired.



1260  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [OFFICIAL]Bitfinex.com first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading on: August 16, 2017, 02:48:01 PM
I don't see what their issuing of bfx tokens has to do with anything at this point.

I don't think the token issuance necessarily has to do with Bitfinex's banking problems, but it certainly might. There was certainly something that caused Wells Fargo to cut them off from the USD banking system, and I'm increasingly worried about what it is. I'd be very surprised if the US government wasn't investigating them on multiple fronts by now.
The crypto party is becoming serious as it is no longer a group of tech nerds playing around. there are Billions at stake and some corporate highrollers are in the game deep. So I see corporations trying to get a control grip around this market and states try to get their share in taxes..

I definitely think this is partly about 1) shaking down Bitcoin exchanges/services for the compliance racquet (huge licensing/compliance costs associated with the US market.) And 2) Deterring people (more specifically, US citizens) from using exchanges where they can avoid paying taxes. This event is definitely driving new business towards exchanges like Coinbase (with its VC and Wall Street backing).

Letīs say your assumptions are true. Why havenīt they been able to set up new banking relationships outside of the US?
They announced to enable withdrawals in currencies like JPY or HKD (or even Euros!) and havenīt been able to deliver
on that promise.

Besides, the US market is big. I agree that compliance costs are ridiculous, but the US is also one of the biggest and therefore
most profitable markets to operate in. If the crypto market will continue to grow in the future, it may be a bad business decision
to opt out of the US just because of compliance costs.

I still suspect that they have problems due to the token creation, which allegedly (!) is the reason why they
were dropped by WF.
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