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2601  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why does the cosmos exist at all? on: October 24, 2020, 05:43:09 PM
the whole idea of Big Bang is based on the idea that math of a billion years ago is the same as the math of today. BB suggests such great changes in the past that math might have been quite different a billion years ago, and physics, as well.

Not really. We can trace everything back using current physical constants and known and experimentally reproducible laws. The only real anomaly is the inflationary period, which appears to suggest that during this time the universe expanded faster than the speed of light... but this I think is more a consequence of 'normal' physical laws not holding at vast energies. The inflationary period after all lasted from about 10^-36 to 10^-32 seconds after the big bang. We can trace the history of the universe with some confidence back to this point. Once you hit the inflationary epoch, you are sufficiently close to the bb itself that we can consider this beyond the current scope of our knowledge.

We do not know whether the big bang happened, it's a singularity, a backwards extrapolation to an isolated point. Singularities involve mathematical infinities, involve the exponential progressing to the vertical, an asymptote. Same with black holes. We can't define the singularity other than as a mathematical end point. It may not in fact be an end point at all, just a phenomenal concentration of energy that requires laws that we don't - and perhaps can't - understand (coming back to my earlier point about spatial extent and temporal progression being the framework of our perception rather than anything 'objective'). Perhaps the bb is the outpouring of a super-massive white hole, perhaps time flips into an 'earlier' universe on the other side... perhaps the bb is a collision between two lower dimensional universes within a higher dimensional multiverse, giving birth to our own... we have no idea.

But... we do know that the universe of today expanded from a tiny tiny point, right back at around 10^-32 seconds after the unknown/unknowable event that we term the big bang.
2602  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: October 24, 2020, 05:21:24 PM
But when the next Ferrari engine is also so weak than it's for all Ferrari driver very demotivating.

Ferrari already said they will have an huge improvment on next year engine.

Whilst teams do have a bit of leeway for development next year, it's very limited. I wouldn't anticipate that Ferrari can be up there challenging for race wins in 2021.
However... a bad performance this season will actually help Ferrari a little bit for 2021. The lower a team finishes this year, the more aerodynamic development they are permitted next year... which will of course aid their 2022 development - 2022 being  the full reset with new rules and new cars for everyone.


https://www.racefans.net/2020/10/06/f1s-new-aero-handicap-rules-mean-ferraris-dire-season-will-help-them-in-2022/
2603  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2020/2021 on: October 23, 2020, 10:20:38 PM
Does this mean that aston villa hype has come to an end? I think so.
They will be remain an average team , know your place.

I think so, yes. Dangerous to hype anyone this crazy season! Villa I still think look good enough for top half, maybe 9th or 10th. Should avoid a relegation struggle quite comfortably.

Leeds controlled and dominated the game pretty well, It was a deserved win.

Yes, very impressive from Leeds. This season gets crazier! Just when you think one team looks solid, they get picked apart. Everyone looks vulnerable right now, Everton probably the only team left that haven't collapsed unexpectedly - and so deserved holders of the last remaining unbeaten team accolade.

Not sure what happened there with Bamford in the Villa-Leeds game, he looked a better player than he usually does. Excellent hat-trick. What soured it for me was the ridiculous play-acting for his penalty appeal - reminiscent of Rivaldo at the corner flag.
2604  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Btc and Eth head back into space on: October 23, 2020, 01:29:35 PM
I see that now BTC and Eth are slowly rising towards the sky. Could this be a good sign for all of us?

It's PayPal's addition of crypto that has caused the surge. Not that you can do much with it, AFAIK you can't buy with it or receive with it, you can just hold it there.
... but it's a start, and potentially a significant step on the road to mainstream adoption. If all the millions of non-crypto people who use PayPal now see that this legitimate mainstream business is dipping into bitcoin and a couple of top alts (and, for some reason, BCH), then that can only be a good thing.
2605  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: October 23, 2020, 01:12:38 PM
The F1 race should be an interesting one this weekend. It's an unusual track with some considerable elevation changes across the lap, which brings a new challenge.
It will be new to most drivers as it's never been an F1 race before. However, it's perhaps notable that Hamilton has driven here before (testing for McLaren in 2009), so that may give Ham a slight advantage (not that he needs one)...
2606  Other / Politics & Society / Re: It's time to dump the rule of the Eton/Oxford elite. on: October 23, 2020, 10:46:45 AM
It's time to dump the rule of the Eton/Oxford elite.
I disagree with the body of your post, but agree wholeheartedly with the thread title.


the Guardian is not the independent great newspaper it once was. I prefer reading BBC which is also very pro EU.

The BBC is and always has been just the PR arm of the Conservative party. They play a major role in shaping public opinion and keeping the Conservatives in power. They are as 'establishment' as you can get.
https://www.socialist.net/politics-at-the-bbc-a-who-s-who-of-the-establishment.htm

Whilst every mainstream media source has inherent preferences and biases, I'd still regard the Guardian as better than most. In recent years, they've been responsible for breaking news on Wikileaks, Snowden, Panama Papers etc., and unlike every other paper they are run by an independent Trust.
2607  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The Cycling Thread on: October 23, 2020, 07:42:24 AM
Cycling was for a long time my favorite sport to watch and to bet on. I always adored the cyclists for their dedication, idealism, and willingness to suffer. And cyclists are tough as nails - I always laugh at footballers lying on the pitch, screaming and doing Hollywood with minor injuries Cheesy When there is some crash, the first thing these people do is to look for their bike, because they want to keep going and not lose any time.
That's true, that is how a good cyclist will act after having a crash, even though they are already injured with the out blood they will continue the race until they finish the line

They are astonishingly tough. But it's not just this ability to jump back on the bike after having a crash, it's also the ridiculous levels of bravery they exhibit. They've all had big crashes before, but it doesn't slow them down one bit. You see them pedalling as hard as they can whilst riding steeply downhill on a wet mountain road. It takes a lot to be a top cyclist... the combination of physical ability and mental attitude that are demanded are perhaps unmatched in any other sport.
2608  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Covid madness increases in the UK. on: October 23, 2020, 07:27:54 AM
It seems that pub landlords will have to record customer details, and ask for proof that there are no contacts between different family units. What is the point of going to the pub if there is no social interaction allowed.I wonder how long it will take them to rule that only one family is allowed to attend debates in the House of Commons? Sainsbury's have had to close the stairs up to their supermarket ( it is above a large car park). This is because people are passing each other on the steps. They now have to use the escalators, and get less exercise as a result. They also have to travel in the exhalation cloud of the person in front of them.
The absurdities arise because the government are trying to reconcile two conflicting objectives: 1) keep shops and other businesses open, and 2) stop the virus from spreading. When these two come into conflict, the government response is to prioritise the economy over the virus. Hence businesses must remain open, and best efforts are made to contain the virus.

There is a report of a 50 stone (700 pounds) man having to be winched out of his house to be taken to hospital. It seems he is addicted to ordering fast food via his phone apps during the lockdown. He can't be working, so we have to suffer because of parasites like him.
You can always find individual cases to support any given argument. But I'm not sure what your argument is here. I don't think it's fair to demonise an individual without knowing their circumstances, and based on what is likely a sensationalised news piece - as you said "mass media reports are obsessed with dramatising".

We are also being warned that the unhealthy face masks have to be  worn over both the nose and the mouth.
They're only unhealthy if you don't wear them. Wearing them over just mouth does confer reduced protection, so if you're going to wear one then obviously nose and mouth is preferable. But I do have sympathy with people who have to wear them all day every day. I'd suggest plastic screens as an alternative, but we've had that discussion already.
2609  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Plastic barriers next to supermarket queues. on: October 22, 2020, 02:11:51 PM
Age isn't really relevant. it's the co-morbidities and the strength of your immune system that is important . The only reason that the elderly are more vulnerable is that they have been exposed to vaccines and other so called health care products for longer.

That's not really true. Whilst co-morbidities and immune system strength are important, the fact is that old people still died before vaccines and health products were invented; people don't just continue indefinitely. Ageing is the process of cumulative accrual of cell replication errors throughout your life. Getting older makes you weaker and more vulnerable, naturally. Plus there is the vulnerability to late-onset diseases (most early onset diseases [i.e. before procreation age] are obviously excluded from the gene-pool by natural selection). Diseases can make you more vulnerable, and weaken your immune system, and this correlates with age. Unfortunately it's not the case that we're all immortal indomitable supermen who are brought down only by evil vaccines.
2610  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: October 22, 2020, 01:53:52 PM
think that we can already says congrats him for that achievement, reaching the number of GS will be another story

Age could be the crucial factor. I know all three (Fed, Nadal, Djok) are all playing really well into their thirties... but Federer is 39 now, and surely he can't stay up at the top for much longer? Which would leave the French with Nadal, so he gains +1 slam each year... but the other 3 you'd prefer Djokovic to Nadal, so he has 3 big chances and one outside chance each year to catch Federer. Ignoring the up-and-coming stars, who aren't quite at the 'big 3' level. But given Nadal's ridiculous dominance in France, you wouldn't put it past him to keep winning in Roland Garros every year into his forties!
2611  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2020/2021 on: October 22, 2020, 11:35:40 AM
For the Leeds game on Monday I see they lost it with 1 goal and they will face tomorrow Aston Villa which has 4 victories, will it end it?  Tongue

Villa vs Leeds is a difficult one to call. Villa have probably been flattered a bit by results, particularly the Leicester one where they won right at the end. Leeds had that close match vs Liverpool, and also drew with Man City... plus they still have the upwards momentum from their promotion season. Could go either way really, although Villa's defence looks strong, so perhaps a 0-0 might be the likeliest outcome (even in this high-scoring season).
2612  Economy / Economics / Re: Waiters/Waitresses/bellboys etc just lost their jobs on: October 22, 2020, 11:23:13 AM
It's not just an issue for 'physical' jobs. We are now in the age of big data, which offers huge potential for machine learning advancement, which in turn leads to the threat fo a lot of 'white collar' jobs being automated out.
The question is will new jobs arise to replace the old, jobs that only humans can do? I'm skeptical - if you automate out human labour, there are still jobs that require human intellect... if you automate out human intellect, where is there left to go?
This is why schemes such as UBI are enjoying so much attention... in preparation for a potential future with much fewer jobs available.
2613  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FOOTBALL: UEFA Champions League 2020/21 Season on: October 22, 2020, 09:56:17 AM
I thought Fabinho was excellent at CB in Van Dijk’s place. Bigger tests lie ahead

Yes. The problem when you lose the very best player is that anyone who comes in - even if they're very good - will still never be quite as good as the original. It's a big ask for someone to fill the role of Van Dijk, and to do so not just in individual matches, but consistently for the full length of time he is going to be out of action. Bigger tests do lie ahead, and teams will be ruthless and try to exploit the gap that Van Dijk has left. Even if the replacement is excellent, it's still a point of vulnerability.
2614  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: October 21, 2020, 01:55:14 PM
A new war has just started in Barcelona, but this time between the players  Grin
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How will this affect Barcelona’s game and the club’s results?

The club is in a mess. No doubt this will lead to increased tensions between the players on and off the pitch, which will surely only harm their performances and results. The problem is they need to rebuild, which means buying players, but they need to cut the huge wage bill in able to afford to do that. Of course players like Messi want to leave anyway, and he was prevented from doing so. He surely won't feel that he should make sacrifices for them... they could have cut their wage bill massively just by letting him go. But instead they demanded that he stay, and are now saying 'you need to lower your wage demands, we can't afford you'. The situation is absurd.
2615  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling thoughts. on: October 21, 2020, 12:31:59 PM
1. Which one do you prefer, Casino gambling or online gambling?
2. How much money are you willing to spend on gambling?
3. How do you manage your lose streak or win streak?
4. If you will have $1000, what game in the casino you are going to play?
5. What is the best advice that you can give to a gambler?

1. Online, definitely. I find it easier to relax and make logical decisions this way.
2. Only a small amount initially, but if I win then I'm willing to spend a large proportion of any profit.
3. Both the same really, stop when I believe I'm making decisions based on the streak itself rather than any logical basis. Of course if I'm still winning, I'm more likely to continue... but the same rule still applies, and I'll try not to take silly risks because of the 'lucky' streak.
4. Poker.
5. Rely on cold, hard logic as much as you can. Luck is irrelevant as it will even itself out over the course of time. For poker, be willing to continually revise and refine your assessments of other players' styles and personalities.... don't rely on a fixed initial assessment.
2616  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: October 21, 2020, 08:00:42 AM
Rebuilding in a team like Barcelona is not easy.

This is true. It's not just the case of bringing in a load of world class players - that would get you a good team, but not a world-beating team. To be world-beating (or even just Real Madrid beating) those players need to be a cohesive unit, a team rather than a collection of talented individuals. It takes money to buy the players, but it takes time to get them all to work together as a fluid unit. Time is the key factor here. They're not going to instantly be great. And given that Messi will likely leave at the end of the season, that makes their task even more difficult.
2617  Other / Politics & Society / Re: US Elections 2020 - very self such moderated on: October 21, 2020, 07:10:20 AM
the alphabetical order conspiracy might be onto something Grin
I can 100% guarantee you that position in a list is an important factor in which item people pick from that list.

There is certainly evidence to support this, even in US presidential elections. Quotes below from this article.

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"There is a human tendency to lean towards the first name listed on the ballot," says Krosnick, a politics professor at Stanford University. "And that has caused increases on average of about three percentage points for candidates, across lots of races and states and years."

Whilst most people are not affected, it does impact the decisions of people who are unsure who to pick, but also want to (or feel obligated to) vote for someone. This does make sense. Universal suffrage is a hard-won right, and I can imagine there are people who will make absolutely certain they take advantage of that right, even if they have no real preference of candidate.

In 2016,
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"In the states where Trump won very narrowly, his name was also listed first on the ballot in most of those states,"

Also:
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In 1996, Bill Clinton received 4% more votes in the regions of California that listed him first in the ballot papers than in those where he featured lower down the list.
Research by Robert Darcy of Oklahoma State University shows that, given the choice, most election officials tend to list their own party's candidates first.
In one famous example of this, Florida's rules meant that Republican governor Jeb Bush's brother George W Bush was placed at the top of the list of candidates in his state, in the 2000 presidential election.
Bush went on to win Florida - which turned out to be a decisive state - by a very narrow margin.

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"Because of the fact that different states in the US order candidate names differently and idiosyncratically, and almost none of the states do what Ohio and California do which is to rotate candidate name order across ballots to be fair, we have unfortunately had at least two recent election outcomes that are the result of bias in the name ordering," says Krosnick.
"If all of those states had rotated name order fairly, most likely George W Bush would not have been elected president in 2000, nor would Donald Trump have been elected president in 2016."

Apparently (as of 2017) California and Ohio are the exception:
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Some always list parties in the same order. Some allow the state's officials to make a new choice each time. Some put the party that lost in the last election at the top of the ballot. Some list alphabetically.

The "state's officials" bit could be important there - particularly if this is happening in swing states.


Bit of an aside, but presumably (and in fact from personal experience, although not in the US) the effect is more pronounced in committee elections - I have received ballot papers where you can vote for 3 candidates, but there are 10 standing, 5 from each major party. If you just want 3 from your choice of party, but aren't bothered which ones, there's an obvious benefit to being top of the list.




2618  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A case of the pandemic changing the score and affecting sports betting on: October 20, 2020, 01:22:26 PM
if you are aware that some players or an entire teams is suffering from this situation is really easy take an advantage even if the odds are small (@1.10). Until the distribution of a vaccine or any other therapeutic agent we will see more and more of these events.

I suppose we do see this sort of thing already to a lesser extent with flu and other viruses sweeping through a team, and players perhaps missing a game or at least playing at reduced capacity. The difference with CV19 of course is that the effect is much more dramatic, with players being forced to miss matches entirely for a couple of weeks. It's more obvious to people betting, because rather than the name being on the team sheet but the player carrying a bit of a virus, they are simply not on the team sheet at all, and the fact is announced beforehand... whereas with flu or a cold, perhaps nothing is announced.
2619  Other / Politics & Society / Re: US Elections 2020 - very self such moderated on: October 20, 2020, 10:29:58 AM
It appears to be very scientific - sorted alphabetically.

So if he simply changed his name to _Trump, he'd be at the top of the list? That's got to confer at least a small advantage. Even competing as 'Donald, The' would bump him up a few places.
Unless when you change your name, you're only allowed to use alphabetic characters - in which case what about the squiggle formerly known as Pence Prince?
2620  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2020/2021 on: October 20, 2020, 09:42:49 AM
Calm down
Yo know it is only five games , this hype maybe will be oover in next five games .

Yes, that's what I said Smiley There's no way they'll hold on to second or a champions league qualification place, Europa league place seems unlikely too. But they were solid after the lockdown restart, and look more solid now. I'm not saying they're an outsider for the title, more that they look like a decent mid-table team now rather than relegation scrappers.

I do think Europe would be a stretch, but on this early showing a top half finish looks achievable.

Similarly with Everton, they look better than last season, but there's no chance they'll remain top of the table. There's a huge gulf between the top few teams and everyone else. I expect to see Liverpool and Man City top two, followed by the usual Arsenal/Chelsea/Spurs/Man U.
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