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1841  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Where's the instructions? Where's the warnings? on: May 09, 2021, 06:48:00 AM
It's the professionals who aren't getting the instructions...

The person in the video is either a troll or an imbecile.

It's not so difficult to overcome a simple printing error, when a) there are literally millions of boxes of the vaccine, and b) the internet exists.
The solution is either a) open another box, or b) simply look up the relevant guidance, it's easy enough, the document is here: https://www.fda.gov/media/146304/download

1842  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: May 09, 2021, 06:39:49 AM
Regarding the start , I think Max has the 1st chance as I've watched F3 today and the guy who was on 2nd had the 1st entry point to the first corner which is on the right so pretty much an advantage of Max doesn't screw his start.

It's 564m to the first corner, so yes, a great overtaking opportunity. Pole isn't necessarily a huge advantage.
But I think a key consideration is the under-performance of Perez in qualifying once again. If the top three keep those positions - in whatever order - and start to pull away from the pack, then it seems likely that all three, Hamilton, Verstappen, Bottas, will be fairly close to each other when the pit stop window opens... and it's advantage Mercedes, they can effectively decide when Max stops by pulling one car in to attempt the undercut. Max then has to stop to cover it off, leaving the other Mercedes with track position. We've seen it often enough before, and it's why it's vital when two teams are so evenly matched that the second driver steps up in qualifying to be near the front, rather than halfway down the grid.

1843  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: how many more years our bitcoins will be save from quantum supercomputer on: May 08, 2021, 03:47:38 PM
We have no proof that any coin is actually "lost" though, unless it has been provably burned.
True, I suppose. You'd imagine (and there are certainly stories reported of such instances) that plenty of people had coins in the early days, and then just forgot about them, lost access etc... because it wasn't a big deal until years later when the price increased so dramatically. But as for actual numbers and proof, no. Perhaps common opinion is an overestimate.


I am deeply uncomfortable with the idea of the network agreeing to a fork which burns or otherwise locks coins which don't belong to us. I understand the situation with potentially 2 million coins being vulnerable to being stolen and dumped, which would undoubtedly have a major impact on the price, but I think the alternative is worse. It sets a terrible precedent that in the future your coins can be seized against your will. It threatens the very nature of bitcoin.
Yes, I'm uncomfortable with the burning option, too.
My understanding on this subject is much more from the quantum mechanical side than from the bitcoin side. I know comparatively little about cryptography, so perhaps it's not as black and white as I've outlined, and some more palatable third option will become apparent.
1844  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: May 08, 2021, 02:49:32 PM
I feel like we’ve been had by the F1 sports journos.  It’s obv looking like Merc is still the team to beat

Hamilton 1m16.741s, Verstappen 1m16.777s... 3/100ths of a second... that's hardly conclusive evidence of Mercedes superiority. Looks to me like they're quite evenly matched in qualifying pace. Of course race pace may be a different story, but we will see tomorrow. Disappointing from Perez again, not helped by that spin. We need 2x Red Bull up at the front with 2x Mercedes so that no team has a strategic advantage coming into the pit stops.

BTW 100 pole positions now for Hamilton!
1845  Other / Politics & Society / Re: India records another 3,980 convid-19 death in one day on: May 08, 2021, 02:46:05 PM
A good test of various hypotheses will be to analyze if the same spike and the same timing of record breaking 'cases' happen in multiple different countries.  It will be amusing to see the contortions that certain 'experts' use to explain that one...if we see it of course...

The trend in highly-vaccinated nations does seem to be a dramatic reduction in cases. It's worth noting that in the UK, new cases were dropping significantly prior to the vaccine rollout (due to a strict lockdown after Christmas)... which I think goes some way towards invalidating your 'scare people into taking the vaccine' hypothesis (as does the widespread media hysteria about blood clots).

And then once the lockdown was eased, vaccination was at a sufficient level that case numbers continued to fall. I'm not as familiar with the situation in Israel.


https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/united-kingdom

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/israel
1846  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Riots after Death of Man in Minneapolis Police Custody on: May 08, 2021, 01:28:04 PM
In case anyone is interested in some wider context...

The Washington Post has a database of police killings since 2015.
And there is also The Guardian's award-winning 2 year investigation, covering 2015-16.

Quote from: James Comey, FBI director
"It is unacceptable that the Washington Post and the Guardian newspaper from the UK are becoming the lead source of information about violent encounters between [US] police and civilians."



There's also a decent summary of available data by Nature.


1847  Other / Politics & Society / Re: India records another 3,980 convid-19 death in one day on: May 08, 2021, 09:44:13 AM

Looking at the graphic of 'vaccinated' vs. 'covid deaths' in India which appears at about the 1min 30sec mark on this vid shows pretty clearly what is going on in that country:

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/PCi3Wco2AIw0/

Coming soon to a 'developing' (aka, 'indebted') country near you.  I don't have the time and energy to snap a graphic and all that, but the little bit I did seem indicates that the vid is worth the time.

Obviously there will never be a graphic like that which lasts very long on on the controlled media such as Joogle, FuckFuckBlow, etc.

Here's the image from your video:


Kinda blurry, but weirdly for this sort of video, the chart does seem accurate. Source here with clearer charts and links to data: https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/india

So the data are accurate. But is the conclusion accurate, that vaccination is causing the increase in cases? Well, no.

The reason the conclusion is flawed is because those two lines use different scales. Are cases increasing dramatically in India? Yes. Is vaccination increasing? Yes.
But vaccination is still at a very very low rate, and so is likely to have only a very small impact, and certainly not enough to prevent case numbers from surging. If the vaccination level were considerably higher, then we would expect case numbers to begin to fall - as indeed we see in the UK, where doses administered per 100 people is 75, compared with India's 11.


https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/covid-vaccination-doses-per-capita


---
edit: I should add that spurious correlations are everywhere. But we often need to dig deeper to determine whether or not there is a causal relationship...


https://tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations
1848  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Vitamin D Thread. on: May 08, 2021, 07:31:36 AM
There is some evidence, as we've seen, that moderate Vitamin D supplementation helps to protect to an extent against the worst effects of Covid.

But I still don't understand why those who want to take something to protect themselves are unwilling to take the obvious and best protection, which is the vaccine.

Is the objection a moral one, that they don't want to support profit-seeking Big Pharma? in which case, why is there such an overlap between those who dislike the profit-seeking and those who in every other circumstance advocate zero government intervention, and to let the money flow according to free capitalism? And how does Biden's proposed patent waiver fit into all this?

Or is the objection that the vaccines don't work or aren't safe? Evidence, as I've linked to dozens of times in P&S, clearly shows that they do work and are safe, and that case numbers drop hugely once a vaccination programme gets into full swing - as we've seen to such dramatic effect in the UK.

Objection to the vaccine seems to be baseless-conclusion-led rather than data-led.
1849  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why I'm an atheist on: May 08, 2021, 07:21:31 AM
I SURE don't want to die from the Covid vaccine, as possibly as many as over 200,000 in the States have died so far.

There is an ideal response to the finger-in-the-air, data-free, citation-free 'fact' above - which you are yourself implying is nonsense by qualifying it with the word "possibly".
That ideal response is:

check your sources.

You may find that many of them are lunatics ranting from their basement. Like that 'Satan Soldiers' guy from a few weeks back. Or the guy in that other video you linked to who kept saying that Bill Gates has a forked tongue.
1850  Other / Politics & Society / Re: India records another 3,980 convid-19 death in one day on: May 08, 2021, 07:11:25 AM
Is even India taking economic measures like other countries do?
Like some stimulus money to keep people at their homes?
The fundamental issue is that rich countries are at the front of the queue for the vaccines. Poorer countries such as India are made to wait.
It is always the case that the poor suffer the most. Those countries that are least able to bankroll themselves through lockdowns are the same that have poor healthcare and the same that have very low quantities of the vaccine.

I am afraid that the population density and living conditions in India will make more difficult for her people to prevent this pandemic
Yes. Urban areas have suffered tremendously, and now the problem is rolling out to rural areas, such as Bihar:
  • one doctor per 43,788 people (the WHO guidelines advise one doctor per 1,000 people)
  • hospitals sometimes hundreds of miles away
  • 207 ventilators have been given to the state, they have been gathering dust because no-one is trained to operate them
  • hospital staff were treating Covid patients as social outcasts and did not want to touch them, particularly as they were not being given adequate protective equipment
  • medicines and vitamins recommended for Covid treatment have all run out

Poverty is the problem. Rich countries such as the US, the UK and Israel can buy themselves out of it. Countries such as India suffer.
1851  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Covid spike protein causing deadly blood clots > in all the covid vaccines ... on: May 08, 2021, 06:55:49 AM
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Bold isn't working. Have you considered alternating capitals?

Trump
I'm interested: what's the conspiracy theorist take on Biden's patent waiver? How does this fit in with everything else?



They have been working on a SARS-Coronavirus vaccine since 2002. Did not manage a save Sars-Cov vaccine in 19 years, yet Sars-Cov-2 was done in 9 months.
I suspect the massive global pandemic may have caused a sense of urgency over the last year, which might have increased the focus on developing a vaccine.

This time round they skipped animal trials, wonder why?
No, they didn't skip animal trials. This myth was debunked months ago: https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-afs:Content:9792931264

Taking the two points together, yes, there was certainly a sense of urgency, a need to get the vaccines out quickly. But that doesn't mean that safety procedures and proper processes were simply skipped.
1852  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: how many more years our bitcoins will be save from quantum supercomputer on: May 07, 2021, 03:26:12 PM
Quantum supre computers are the main challenges associated with bitcoin but i believein the near future, we will have some tech gurus using the saem computers that once served as challenges to compute to also become the major source of solutions to computers related challenges on the bitcoin network

Yes, potentially. There's a distinction to be made between
  • post-quantum cryptography, which uses 'normal' classical computers to build defences from quantum attack, and
  • quantum cryptography, which exploits the laws of quantum mechanics to build defences.

Most current work is in post-quantum cryptography. This is where the early quantum-proof bitcoin solutions will come from.

Quantum cryptography is more of a future solution. The possibilities are exciting. Because any act of measurement causes the wave function to collapse, then there is the possibility of absolute security based on immutable laws of physics.
1853  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: how many more years our bitcoins will be save from quantum supercomputer on: May 07, 2021, 06:50:42 AM
Why try attack the network with a QC when you could HELP the network and mine
Bitcoin, your QC would out perform all others!

Potentially true, but the mining improvement is much smaller than we might anticipate. The biggest advantage of a QC is using Shor's algorithm to break asymmetric cryptography. This isn't an approach that can be used for mining - the QC advantage here would be that PoW can be exploited using Grover's algorithm. IIRC that's only an advantage over classical of a couple of orders of magnitude. Big, but not huge.
1854  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: how many more years our bitcoins will be save from quantum supercomputer on: May 06, 2021, 08:01:06 PM
Since the public key of your address is only revealed if you either chose to reveal it, sign a message from that address, or make a transaction from that address, then if you do none of these things, your bitcoin remain safe against quantum computing for decades more. What that means in practice is to simply to avoid address reuse. Do this and by the time quantum computing is a concern for you, we will have long ago moved to quantum resistant algorithms.

This is certainly true for us as individuals right now... but there is a large quantity of bitcoin in reused addresses, and there are plenty of coins that are effectively lost. When bitcoin forks to deal with the quantum threat, all coins will need to be moved to new, quantum-safe addresses. Those that aren't moved or can't be moved can then be stolen by a QC running Shor. Admittedly we don't have QCs capable of this right now, but the field is advancing rapidly, and because of superposition and entanglement QC processing power scales 2^n, so if you go from say 9 qubits to 10, the capability doubles... which is quite counterintuitive from a classical perspective. I'm not trying to be alarmist, and there are certainly engineering challenges to overcome with larger QCs, particularly in maintaining coherence, but the time will come when we're forced into a choice of whether to burn any coins that aren't moved by a given date, or else leave them to be stolen. Neither option is great, and I assume both would be hugely contentious. Achieving a consensus on this would I'd imagine be quite a challenge.

As a side note, ignore DWave and similar. These are annealers rather than universal gate QCs; they have a specific use case, and won't be running Shor's alogrithm. DWave is not a threat to bitcoin.
1855  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [POLL] What is the best covid-19 conspiracy? on: May 06, 2021, 07:34:08 PM
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1856  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2020/2021 on: May 06, 2021, 01:29:14 PM
I can understand why a lot of people feel these protests went overboard

What happens with any protest about anything is that most of the protestors are genuine, and then a few troublemakers turn up and attach themselves to the protest just because they want to fight with the police. It happens every single time that there is a protest of sufficient size that is reasonably well publicised in advance... I'd think it very likely that the same thing happened here.
1857  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [POLL] Do vaccines kill people? on: May 06, 2021, 08:56:57 AM
People that have died after receiving vaccination will not be able to vote.
Something wrong here. If a vaccinated person died, how could he vote to let you know?

I would imagine that there's a considerable overlap between those who think that vaccines kill people, and those who think that the vaccine implants a Bill Gates 5G chip that turns you into a zombie.
Perhaps the second option in the poll should be changed to 'undead'... this is I assume what those who voted for the second option meant.
1858  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread on: May 06, 2021, 08:52:28 AM
in the final here we have two teams from the Premier League and chances are really high to be the same even in Europa League.

Yes, I was thinking the same. In the Europa League, Man United are almost through already after that 6-2 win in the first leg. Arsenal are 2-1 behind... but they are playing at home in the second leg, and they have that away goal advantage... a 1-0 home win for Arsenal would mean all English finals in both competitions.
1859  Other / Politics & Society / Re: “Vaccidents” now wrecking roadways with stroked-out vaccine takers who lose... on: May 05, 2021, 03:54:31 PM
Watch your bus drivers. Some of them are driving like in a fog. Many miss their standard stops, or suddenly forget to drop regulars where they are supposed to. And it is happening with un-vaccinated bus drivers as they get more and more of the vaccine stimulated virus shedding from those who ride the bus after being vaccinated.

You can actually buy these for only $5.
1860  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why France and EU do not go ahead to make Pakistan a part of European Union? on: May 05, 2021, 03:50:15 PM
Why France and EU do not go ahead to make Pakistan a part of European Union?
Because neither the EU nor Pakistan has either any incentive or any logical reason to make this happen.

instead of applying restriction or passing any "so called" resolution against Pakistan
If you are imposing sanctions on a country, it's inconceivable that you'd simultaneously think that that country would be a superb candidate to join your bloc. The same reason that the US does not invite Iran or North Korea to become an additional State of America.

Pakistan who holds around 30-40% of worlds politics.
Pakistan is certainly an important and populous country, but I'm skeptical of the '30-40%' claim.
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