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301  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BiblePay ✟ Governance ✟ Help Orphans ✟ PODC Cancer Mining ✟ Deflationary ✟ on: October 07, 2018, 09:33:25 PM
Ok, I found the problem.  Some of the unbanked CPIDs are not being included in the superblock, despite having a RAC > 1, being unbanked and associated properly, and everything else lining up for them to be paid.  The problem is highly technical, and only affects some of the unbanked CPIDs.  The release requires all the sancs to upgrade.  We can't do it as a mandatory - for various reasons, but we can do it as a leisure and as soon as the supermajority of the sancs upgrade, the payments will become regular again.  I just tested the fix and confirm it worked, so first, let me create a release and upgrade the pool and sanc1 (this will fix the superblock view report).  Then I'll announce a release here later this evening.

Sorry about the hassle this has caused you.

This most likely explains the intermittent issue we had reported prior to this report, but didn't affect Jaap in the same way.

Awesome thanks for looking into this!

Sun and I seem to have been affected at the same times, onward to more stability! Smiley
302  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BiblePay ✟ Governance ✟ Help Orphans ✟ PODC Cancer Mining ✟ Deflationary ✟ on: October 07, 2018, 03:08:14 PM
Anyone missing unbanked ARM payment for 10/5 and 10/6? Last two days I have not been paid for PoDC work.

Are you sure you were crunching Rosetta tasks actively?  What is your CPID?

Rosetta has not had ARM tasks in a while, it looks like ~1000 tasks were assigned recently but its very "luck of the draw".

303  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BiblePay ✟ Governance ✟ Help Orphans ✟ PODC Cancer Mining ✟ Deflationary ✟ on: October 06, 2018, 05:29:35 PM
No it's not intended to solely appear as an abuse by a heat miner, but instead, as a popularity governor.

The system is implemented in a way that says our total block emission drops as we become harder to mine - and the original idea with that is : biblepay is hard to mine because its price must be high (I realize this is not always true) but lets follow the logic.  If our price jumps from 9 satoshi to 90 for a couple weeks, we get an inrush of miners (because its profitable to mine).  However with that inrush comes a difficulty increase, and that lowers the reward.

So yes it is a governor to protect from a short term security standpoint but it is also a governor of our total emission due to popularity.

One reason I still like this is if we do become hard to mine (because of a high price) we tend to generate less coins - and therefore our price remains high.



This affects the 3% POBH and the 38.5% Sanc reward,  but not the PODC reward, if we follow this logic technically the same emission stifling should be in the PODC calculations as well.

If we are going to keep POBH separate,  I don't see the harm in doing the same for Masternode owners, these are folks committing 1.5mil to the cause of keeping BBP going.

Obviously nothing is changing today, but I think we should continue the discussion for the next mandatory.
304  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BiblePay ✟ Governance ✟ Help Orphans ✟ PODC Cancer Mining ✟ Deflationary ✟ on: October 06, 2018, 04:37:52 PM
Submitted a pull request to add BBP's sporks to the "spork show" command

https://github.com/biblepay/biblepay/pull/45

305  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BiblePay ✟ Governance ✟ Help Orphans ✟ PODC Cancer Mining ✟ Deflationary ✟ on: October 06, 2018, 04:31:09 PM
I agree, its too complicated and needs cleaned up.  Lets take a look at simplifying this and figuring out if we need a vote to improve it.

The confusion lies in some numbers being based on gross, some on net, and some on superblock emission percentages (which is even worse, as those are based on a gross emission multiplier).

For POW though, we do pay .03% of the gross block to the heat miner.  Let me first modify the wiki page with exact gross and net expectations then we will go from there.

As far as the complexity of having DGW though, that in itself has more advantages than disadvantages, I think, so I think we need to clean up the explanation in the code and the wiki to make it crystal clear first (IE the system we have now).  We are only slightly more complicated in that area if it is explained properly.

I say this because our future is dependent on:  A gross subsidy, a governance budget, a sanctuary reward, and a mining reward - regardless of how you slice it, and if we had multiple paths for mining income - we just need to have a standard interface to ensure the % we state in every category is exact and gross or net, and an example next to it that reconciles.

Ill put an example up on this on our wiki page after this - let me do some gross/net calcs.

I do agree with 616 on the sanc reward vs miner reward. 

Does DGW affect the daily superblock as well?  At least that way we're consistent.   

I have no problem with DGW on the POBH mining,  from a sanctuary perspective it seems strange to punish the sanctuary for potential abuses by the miner.
306  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Biblepay BBP Community Discussion Thread on: October 06, 2018, 01:32:01 PM
As you all know there have been some "Interesting" prayers as of late.

What I've been seeing is they are normally replaced by Rob with the "not evolved from monkeys" prayer.  Until last night.

The surprising thing to me is this prayer:
Quote
"OUT_TX (10-05-2018 16:17:32) (10-05-2018 16:17:32)": "Please pray for love to flow through the community, and our leadership to be blessed. ",

was replaced with
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"OUT_TX (10-05-2018 16:17:32) (10-06-2018 02:43:49)": "I pray that those with Anger and wrath issues learn peace and serenity, realizing their opponent is not their brother or sister, \"For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of [a]the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.\" - Ephesians 6:12 ",

This is concerning to me...   Does anyone see anything wrong with this prayer, or why it would have been replaced?

With the new fork and "prayer signing" being a toggle Rob controls does this mean any legit prayers from those Rob disagrees with will be  removed?
307  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Biblepay BBP Community Discussion Thread on: October 05, 2018, 03:05:33 PM
Thank you for your single opinion; snat.  You are one of our 2500 users (accurate user count from the pool database), and one of approx. 10 (out of 2500) who continually try to make a mockery of this forum (by steering investors away from the core mission:  building value for biblepay) - and you havent disclosed if you even own one sanctuary.  Otoh, I'm entirely focused on that mission: building value for biblepay.

I'm sorry it has come to this, but I have to treat this as insubordination - since I started this project, I have the right to run it until it is large enough to split the work up upon multiple lead devs and multiple functions.  Its inherent trust lies in trusting me and if you cant do that frankly you should no longer be a part of this; as I think you have a hidden motive - possibly to drag down our price - or maybe workng for the enemy; its hard to say; but its clear you are a detraction and a net negative of our community.

In light of that, Im going to give you one more chance to act more respectfully toward the BiblePay forum and myself.  Please only post items that have to do with technical problems with biblepay, or how you are helping to solve them, or how you are helping other users, or spreading the gospel.  Do not post one more post :  attacking me, attacking the coin, attacking my character, or otherwise I will have to ask you to stop posting entirely on this forum.  

You have been warned - this is warning #1.

Please explain why me having a masternode would affect your opinion?

Currently no I don't have one(aside from a partial from experimenting with mintnodes).  I could but I'm still doing PODC so I cannot do both,  How many do you have?

I've been vocal, and have more than what you think that have spoken to me.   Many are afraid to speak up because of how you respond.


I would love to see some growth stats from that 2500 users.   When was their last activity, how many new users / departed users a month etc.

And thank you for being honest,  this is "Rob's" coin until you decide otherwise.   With the team vote that's all I was asking for.  If we really don't get a say, then make the changes I agree that is your right.

I do want to see this coin grow, which is why I have challenged your approach to dealing with people from what I've seen during my time here this is the largest barrier preventing growth.   People don't want to speak up if they are going to get beat down



Snat, you have already proven to be a backstabber by trying to pick parts of our PMs to make me look like a bad guy.  

I recommend trying all of this in Peercoin's forum, lets see how far you get there.

Anyway, Im here to grow the coin.  You just responded with more personal questions and continue to make a public spectacle.

Please stop posting these type of posts and post only the type of posts I mentioned earlier: posts that grow biblepay or show you helping another user.



I copied the entire PM, including the history.. How you look is on you.   Now lets both stop this and move on.

Edit: as for the namecalling, please stop.
308  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Biblepay BBP Community Discussion Thread on: October 05, 2018, 02:45:06 PM
Here's an interesting service called "KYD Team Review" that verifies the lead developer for a crytpo project is who he says he is.

"KYD has a verification process that includes a state issued ID and selfie. We only verify the main developer or project lead at this time. KYD will be expanding verification levels in the coming updates, but at this time this is solely a beta product and should be used as a reference only."

https://review.kydcoin.io/

Interesting, but I don't see that going anywhere heh
309  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Biblepay BBP Community Discussion Thread on: October 05, 2018, 02:44:34 PM
Thank you for your single opinion; snat.  You are one of our 2500 users (accurate user count from the pool database), and one of approx. 10 (out of 2500) who continually try to make a mockery of this forum (by steering investors away from the core mission:  building value for biblepay) - and you havent disclosed if you even own one sanctuary.  Otoh, I'm entirely focused on that mission: building value for biblepay.

I'm sorry it has come to this, but I have to treat this as insubordination - since I started this project, I have the right to run it until it is large enough to split the work up upon multiple lead devs and multiple functions.  Its inherent trust lies in trusting me and if you cant do that frankly you should no longer be a part of this; as I think you have a hidden motive - possibly to drag down our price - or maybe workng for the enemy; its hard to say; but its clear you are a detraction and a net negative of our community.

In light of that, Im going to give you one more chance to act more respectfully toward the BiblePay forum and myself.  Please only post items that have to do with technical problems with biblepay, or how you are helping to solve them, or how you are helping other users, or spreading the gospel.  Do not post one more post :  attacking me, attacking the coin, attacking my character, or otherwise I will have to ask you to stop posting entirely on this forum.  

You have been warned - this is warning #1.

Please explain why me having a masternode would affect your opinion?

Currently no I don't have one(aside from a partial from experimenting with mintnodes).  I could but I'm still doing PODC so I cannot do both,  How many do you have?

I've been vocal, and have more than what you think that have spoken to me.   Many are afraid to speak up because of how you respond.


I would love to see some growth stats from that 2500 users.   When was their last activity, how many new users / departed users a month etc.

And thank you for being honest,  this is "Rob's" coin until you decide otherwise.   With the team vote that's all I was asking for.  If we really don't get a say, then make the changes I agree that is your right.

I do want to see this coin grow, which is why I have challenged your approach to dealing with people from what I've seen during my time here this is the largest barrier preventing growth.   People don't want to speak up if they are going to get beat down
310  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Biblepay BBP Community Discussion Thread on: October 05, 2018, 01:05:15 PM
cross-posting for obvious reasons.

I'll try to explain this to you in a nice way:  Part of my responsibility to give investors accurate information is not misleading them, and not compromising this forum with a personal tit-tat back and forth, as frankly its embarrasing.

I reserve the right to delete posts that do not move biblepay forward as a community.

We will not be ovverrun here with people's personal agenda on what they think should be our content.

If you do not trust my judgement, you are part of the problem.

Im not here to Censor, but you must start acting more respectfully and trusting my judgement.  

As for respecting your judgement,  well.. after this PM exchange, and the number of people driven away from this project/community through your attitude and actions...  It makes it difficult

We are all forgiven how can we not also forgive? ...


Yes, we are just men, and the least we can do is forgive others and also Not hold grudges.  Im not sure if you have seen our Gospel Links section in the pool, but I highly recommend watching This man saw judgement day.  It has nothing to do with where you are in your walk - its just worth watching Smiley.  Have a good one, I have a lot of PMs and issues but I enjoy remembering seeing your reply yesterday, it was like a rushing waterfall from Christ coming over me.

I will say this in PM,  no need to go further in public.

Are you trying to chase people away from this project?  

If I disagree with you, or challenge something my goal here is to better the project.  I am working to not have a tone or aggressive stance, with that I may be "cold" as I remove more emotion from it than I Should?  If that is the case then I am sorry.

I have chosen to stay in the shadows for the most part. I wanted to help on the re-base, but frankly I don't know if I could work with you from the limited interactions we have had.  

"If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." (1 Cor 13:2)

 “By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another” (John 13:35).

These are important verses.   My wife has repeatedly mentioned the need for love above all else in dealing with others.  I myself am nowhere near where I want to be,  but I will keep working on it until I leave this life.




Yes, I am trying to drive people away, yes!

I believe you made a backhanded apology yesterday also - as you apologized and then went on to criticize anyway, as if criticizing from a place that is superior, with less information about the core wallet and the pool.



311  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BiblePay ✟ Governance ✟ Help Orphans ✟ PODC Cancer Mining ✟ Deflationary ✟ on: October 04, 2018, 07:52:50 PM


It also sets up hypocrisy, as the moderator(s) can post any personal attacks he/they want, but the laypeople here get censored.  If someone can call someone else a Satanist or abuser, shouldn't I be able to say that some people are acting like an ass?

I think some folks need to grow up, and consider that some readers might really judge Christianity based on what they read here.

We'll see if this post will live...

I'd actually rather talk about what we can do to promote this coin. So much of the effort has been around the charity, which of course is central and important. But getting people to buy the coin and getting more volume...what can we do for that?

Completely agree,  my biggest concern all along is the damage done "in the name of Jesus" through the conversations here...
312  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BiblePay ✟ Governance ✟ Help Orphans ✟ PODC Cancer Mining ✟ Deflationary ✟ on: October 04, 2018, 03:33:35 PM
What constitutes a quorum number for proposal votes ... is it a % based on the overall number of sanctuaries, or just the enabled ones?

Can anyone help me with this?

From what I can tell if it has more Yes than No votes it passes...

I will try to do some digging if Rob doesn't chime in

313  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Biblepay BBP Community Discussion Thread on: October 04, 2018, 01:29:42 PM
just in case...

Please post my offensive quotes from the PM's here,  I'm curious what you are referring to.  

My first PM from you was telling me to leave because there is "no room for satanists in this community"

edit:  And early on we had some disagreements and I believe we both apologized..  
Hopefully you aren't saying that I have a habit of meeting a person and attacking them and calling them a satanist for no reason.  
In the few times that happened here, it was in response to something they said or did to me.  I agree, it was probably a very bad choice of words.
I probably should have said: Sir you are acting in a mean spirited way, and this community is Christian, please re-phrase your complaint.
I apologize for calling anyone a Satanist on this forum, and hereby structurally change my future response to the above and ask for forgiveness.

If we had an early disagreement, and we forgave each other, true forgiveness means that you "forget" that and act as if it didn't happen.  Your not supposed to continually harp on something that was forgiven mutually by Christians.  

We should remove any seeds of hate from our hearts and we should remove Grudges.  I know its hard for some but we need to be cognizant of how the other person is being received If you were to make a phone call to that person (IE Hey How are you, how have you been!   Not :  (hey its him), YEAH, what?).

Thank you for the apology I will happily forgive you..  As I said in a PM back in April, you are the face of this project.  Your attitude/actions/words bear more weight than anything else, and as a public figure unfortunately you need to be better than "everyone else".  

I was not won over by Christianity by people yelling and calling me a sinner (ala Westboro Baptist Church style),  I was won over by loving, and compassionate Christians that made me feel like family.   I have not seen that here much...


In some of our early PM's I thought we hashed several things out.. I don't begrudge you for any of that.   and I agree about grudges, they are poison and something Satan uses because it's an easy target.

What I struggle with is the activities that have still been going on,   taking any comment as a personal attack and responding in kind,  name calling or publicly attacking me while deleting any kind of response or rebuttal.  

If you are free to run a smear campaign on people, then they should have the right to defend themselves..  I would prefer to see neither personally.



314  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BiblePay ✟ Governance ✟ Help Orphans ✟ PODC Cancer Mining ✟ Deflationary ✟ on: October 04, 2018, 01:29:24 PM
Please post my offensive quotes from the PM's here,  I'm curious what you are referring to.  

My first PM from you was telling me to leave because there is "no room for satanists in this community"

edit:  And early on we had some disagreements and I believe we both apologized.. 
Hopefully you aren't saying that I have a habit of meeting a person and attacking them and calling them a satanist for no reason. 
In the few times that happened here, it was in response to something they said or did to me.  I agree, it was probably a very bad choice of words.
I probably should have said: Sir you are acting in a mean spirited way, and this community is Christian, please re-phrase your complaint.
I apologize for calling anyone a Satanist on this forum, and hereby structurally change my future response to the above and ask for forgiveness.

If we had an early disagreement, and we forgave each other, true forgiveness means that you "forget" that and act as if it didn't happen.  Your not supposed to continually harp on something that was forgiven mutually by Christians. 

We should remove any seeds of hate from our hearts and we should remove Grudges.  I know its hard for some but we need to be cognizant of how the other person is being received If you were to make a phone call to that person (IE Hey How are you, how have you been!   Not :  (hey its him), YEAH, what?).

Thank you for the apology I will happily forgive you..  As I said in a PM back in April, you are the face of this project.  Your attitude/actions/words bear more weight than anything else, and as a public figure unfortunately you need to be better than "everyone else".   

I was not won over by Christianity by people yelling and calling me a sinner (ala Westboro Baptist Church style),  I was won over by loving, and compassionate Christians that made me feel like family.   I have not seen that here much...


In some of our early PM's I thought we hashed several things out.. I don't begrudge you for any of that.   and I agree about grudges, they are poison and something Satan uses because it's an easy target.

What I struggle with is the activities that have still been going on,   taking any comment as a personal attack and responding in kind,  name calling or publicly attacking me while deleting any kind of response or rebuttal. 

If you are free to run a smear campaign on people, then they should have the right to defend themselves..  I would prefer to see neither personally.



315  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BiblePay ✟ Governance ✟ Help Orphans ✟ PODC Cancer Mining ✟ Deflationary ✟ on: October 04, 2018, 12:56:22 PM
Well, we've all tried to respond to really bad things people say or do -  in a Christian way, but unfortunately Ive been called much, much worse by most of you without apology (via PMs and emails), I think SunK accused me of child abuse or something, and Snat said some pretty horrible things in PM, so you guys have no credibility.  The ones in the hate group wanted to strip me of masternodes, and remove ability to speak, etc (keep to your programming).

I reacted a few times by calling people a Satanist in response to some much more horrible behavior.

Again if you think my character is bad, then you are part of the problem.

Thanks for being in the BiblePay community however and making it stronger.

Please post my offensive quotes from the PM's here,  I'm curious what you are referring to.  

My first PM from you was telling me to leave because there is "no room for satanists in this community"

edit:  And early on we had some disagreements and I believe we both apologized.. 
316  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BiblePay ✟ Governance ✟ Help Orphans ✟ PODC Cancer Mining ✟ Deflationary ✟ on: October 04, 2018, 12:54:04 PM
Someone is messing with the wallet prayer feature again.

Its not funny.... and its not me.  The prayers should be reserved for a bona-fide prayer list so we can help the sick.

If you delete enough posts and call people SATANISTS, you should expect some blowback. Most Christians would show you grace for that kind of behavior, but others are not as forgiving with agape love. I believe long-term, grace is more effective, but I can only speak for myself. To be clear, I didn't post that prayer request.

If I called a person a Satanist, its because they were acting evil.  My track record speaks for itself:  I have a track record of deleting posts that should be deleted.

If you think I have bad character, then you are part of the problem here.



I've said it before and will continue..   There is a difference between a "Pagan"(one outside of jewish law) and a "Satanist" one who actively worships satan.

How many people will you convert if you call "outsiders" names?

317  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BiblePay ✟ Governance ✟ Help Orphans ✟ PODC Cancer Mining ✟ Deflationary ✟ on: October 04, 2018, 03:32:41 AM
Someone is messing with the wallet prayer feature again.

Its not funny.... and its not me.  The prayers should be reserved for a bona-fide prayer list so we can help the sick.

If you delete enough posts and call people SATANISTS, you should expect some blowback. Most Christians would show you grace for that kind of behavior, but others are not as forgiving with agape love. I believe long-term, grace is more effective, but I can only speak for myself. To be clear, I didn't post that prayer request.

Agree with Sun's comments completely.  It's unfortunate that people don't take things like this more seriously.

And I'm not doing them either...  Hopefully they will stop soon
318  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BiblePay ✟ Governance ✟ Help Orphans ✟ PODC Cancer Mining ✟ Deflationary ✟ on: October 03, 2018, 06:42:53 PM
really? why didnt it? lool
huh?
319  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BiblePay ✟ Governance ✟ Help Orphans ✟ PODC Cancer Mining ✟ Deflationary ✟ on: October 03, 2018, 06:07:27 PM
How do you get these prayers or messages or whatever they are on the overview page of the wallet?  Who writes them?

In the GUI Wallet, in the Send tab, next to the Amount section, there is a checkbox for "Prayer Request", I believe if you click that and add text to the "Send Message" field and send the transaction, the text will become an in-wallet prayer.
I believe anyone can write a prayer, but Im not sure how much BBP it costs

How long does it stay up?  Is there any moderation involved?  There is some increasingly weird stuff showing up on there LOL Grin

I'm not sure on duration, it's probably in the code thought.

As far as moderation, Rob seems to have a way to overwrite prayers he deems improper.
320  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BiblePay ✟ Governance ✟ Help Orphans ✟ PODC Cancer Mining ✟ Deflationary ✟ on: October 03, 2018, 10:45:03 AM
mini-requirement proposal:
since biblepay team is no longer required, what exactly "Total Team RAC" value means in "exec totalrac" command? is it biblepay team, or all teams? assuming the first alternative, maybe it would be useful to change it like this (rename "Total Team RAC" to "Total Biblepay Team RAC" and add "Total All Teams RAC"):
... ,
"Total Biblepay Team RAC": 7519139,
"Total All Teams RAC": 8632150
maybe i missed something
so i can change team in WCG or RAH and i will getting BBP anyway ?

Not until after it is enabled.. (sometime after the block 77000 mandatory update)
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