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1101  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 01, 2014, 01:57:58 AM
This was just posted on another forum original at http://pastebin.com/TvJkKiCJ



He was talking about Cloaksend 1.0, its not used and old. Atcsecure did not confirm the chat log too. He has received a working wallet with PoSA for testing. Check last 15-30 pages about it.
1102  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 01, 2014, 01:56:18 AM

Cool, cloakpal.com. Nothing on it yet, guessing its going to be filled pretty soon. Mobile wallet should be cool to use.
1103  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 01, 2014, 01:49:00 AM
A Q&A is currently opened in the IRC. Please Join the IRC if you have questions regarding PoSA and the Diagram.
1104  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 01, 2014, 01:42:55 AM
I give you a hint.... its Joe

No what is shows is that who ever drew it has never taken a single course in algorithm design, or even process management. To the university grads here, did you ever see something like this in CompSci 101?

thats like moaning against somebody about his bad english.... even if you did understand everything. Yep you are right this can be done better.... but point is i do understand what the chart wants to tell so its not a bad chart.

You make a great point, "Yep you are right this can be done better....", but we are lead to believe
Quote

PoSA is entirely trustless and solves the Byzantine Generals problem.

From people who cant design a proper flow chart?


Sorry I really thought you were serious about discussing cloak. You look at the chart and have no idea whats going on, have you tried analyzing it at least? Ask questions to things you didn't understand? No you didn't, your one of the guys I like to call a smart troll. Trolling without the use of scam, shit...etc

Don't worry that diagram is being redrawn in a coloring book with crayons for you to understand.
1105  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Cloakcoin's PoSA is not a trustless system for anonymous transaction on: August 01, 2014, 01:34:38 AM
Another update from one of the devs and little clarification on the diagram:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=637704.msg8128786#msg8128786
1106  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 01, 2014, 01:29:41 AM

PoSA is entirely trustless and solves the Byzantine Generals problem.






Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.


Would that diagram suffice as evidence? Appreciate your input.

Thanks

No. Here is an analogy.

Here is a description of a warp drive, using the known laws relativity. This does not constitute evidence of faster than light travel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcubierre_drive#Mathematics_of_the_Alcubierre_drive

What would you consider valid evidence then?

Well that was my original question, which I do not have an answer for.

Full open source audit by industry experts would be pretty fool-proof for me, but by that time most of the price rise would have happened in anticipation.


A few of us on the irc were discussing this during the private beta testing. This should happen when PoSA is fully released.

Its not always about the price, PoSA is something new and having industry experts confirm its the real deal is a pretty big in cryptos. Not everyone here is in it for the money. Most are but not everyone.
1107  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 01, 2014, 01:16:58 AM

PoSA is entirely trustless and solves the Byzantine Generals problem.






Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.


Would that diagram suffice as evidence? Appreciate your input.

Thanks

No. Here is an analogy.

Here is a description of a warp drive, using the known laws relativity. This does not constitute evidence of faster than light travel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcubierre_drive#Mathematics_of_the_Alcubierre_drive

What would you consider valid evidence then?
1108  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 01, 2014, 01:09:45 AM

PoSA is entirely trustless and solves the Byzantine Generals problem.






Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.


Would that diagram suffice as evidence? Appreciate your input.

Thanks
1109  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Cloakcoin's PoSA is not a trustless system for anonymous transaction on: August 01, 2014, 01:06:31 AM
As promised a more technical whitepaper has been posted a few minute ago. Its a diagram explaining how POSA works:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=637704.msg8128502#msg8128502

1110  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy / Encrypted XChat / Privacy Platform on: August 01, 2014, 12:28:38 AM
Oh ok so we need clarification from your dev team? as if your dev team has some authority and sheriff status over other coins...  wow XC is sooOOO innovative! BAHAHAHA!!!! such a fail coin...

No trolling here please.

If XC supporters are trolling in Cloak, be the bigger man and don't do the same or else this won't stop.
1111  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 01, 2014, 12:21:34 AM
ATCSECURE is lead XC dev? They bash our coin and claim it like its an independent party. That's low.

Not sure if that IRC log is real but if it is atcsecure was talking about Cloaksend 1.0. Like thedagger posted they were looking at the outdated github that hasn't been updated with anything new for awhile.

Atcsecure didn't confirm the legitimacy of the irc chat logs too and he has received the most recent wallet that contains PoSA. He's doing his analysis now.
1112  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 01, 2014, 12:17:35 AM
I'm back in.


Edit:   let's do this shit:



How are you analyzing charts? Comparing Drk past prices with Cloak current ones? Cloak seems to mimic Dark's past price movements but wondering is that simple?
1113  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 01, 2014, 12:11:52 AM
Dan hasn't looked at the new wallet.


please lets end this cloak discussion, I was just responding to numerous posts and pm's....until I do my own review, I have no official statement on cloak



Thank You,


Dan


Dan has successfully received a working -qt wallet with PoSA.
1114  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 01, 2014, 12:10:01 AM


Coming from a drk bagholder  Cheesy Holding from what price? 10$? 15$?

At least create a new account if your going to troll, your post history is all in dark's thread which proves you and rest here are dark trolls. Pathetic bagholders.

Buy low sell, high bag holder, where's bobsurplus? Oh that's right, he dumped. Don't be emotionally attached.
Bobsurplus even telegraphed when he would dump on you guys.  It was when he bragged that he was going to the office to unlock a cold wallet so get ready for a big rise!................CLOAK has tanked ever since.

We talking about Cloak or Bob?

Who gives a fuck about Bob? If you guys hate him that much open a new thread about him. I hope he did dump his Cloak if he was holding to some, were better off without him. I would be an idiot to listen to Bob, I am pretty sure he stirred shit up profiting from Cloak and Dark.

Could we stop talking about this Bob character and move on topic?
1115  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 01, 2014, 12:03:10 AM


Dude, stop already with that posa posa posa posa thing...
First time this dev was only able to deliver some php script...why should I believe that right now is something different? Just because he says so?


Proof? Don't think so, just something one of the XC devs claim. Sorry but I'll believe when I see solid proof and coming from someone that isn't involved in another coin.


Yes, and I want some proof that this posa thing that everybody is repeating like a zombi, is nothing more than a freaking php script or api thing...

There were over a dozen private beta testers confirming it worked, public beta tests also. Your claiming its a php script or api thing do you have even a tiny piece of proof? No!
1116  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: July 31, 2014, 11:54:41 PM


Dude, stop already with that posa posa posa posa thing...
First time this dev was only able to deliver some php script...why should I believe that right now is something different? Just because he says so?


Proof? Don't think so, just something one of the XC devs claim. Sorry but I'll believe when I see solid proof and coming from someone that isn't involved in another coin.
1117  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy / Encrypted XChat / Privacy Platform on: July 31, 2014, 11:43:26 PM

For those asking about Cloak coin, all I can say is that if the dev can/wants to provide a working -qt wallet, I would be more than glad to analyze it and write up a report on my results



You could private message thedagger requesting a working -qt wallet. Not sure if he's following every coin thread here.
1118  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: July 31, 2014, 11:40:51 PM

Coming from another dev of another Coin is a pretty biased opinion. I guess everything on the internet is true  Cheesy
1119  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: July 31, 2014, 11:37:31 PM
Funny Drk trolls scared of cloak when their beloved
mixer drops alittle in price

Actually, you'll probably find that most of the CLK money supply is owned by DRK holders as a hedge, given that you can pick up 5 times the amount of CLK for 1 DRK.

No tribalism, just common trading sense.



And yet there's a couple of them in here trolling and calling Cloak a scam. Huh


Ask your friend Bobsurplus who has been doing it for more than a month on DRK thread. Where were you then? I guess swallowing the Cloaks he has been dumping all along.



Can someone tell me, why there are still people investing in darkcoin? Seems silly to me with a few other anon options out there who are doing it way better then darkcoin.

Anyone care to explain?

Cause it's the only crypto your mother currently accepts, you FUD spreading child of incest!

I don't spread fud I just speak the truth, you must have me confused with someone else, and my mom only accepts BTC LTC and for the moment CLOAK!

Smiley



Was still here, and never agreed to Bob's actions on the contrary I was against it. Not into the coin fighting, but I guess dark supporters are no better than Bob. Thought the dark community were of a much mature group of people but I guess they are no better than Bob.

Not a bagholder of any coin, bought cloak way down (40k levels). Got my initial investment out and enjoying a free ride for almost a month. Seems Bob has appeared here yet or in the Dark thread, so why are people still trolling here? TheDagger asked Bob to stop the trolling and he agreed he won't do it anymore but yet Dark trolls are here and increasing in number;Dark bagholders.
1120  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: July 31, 2014, 11:14:39 PM
Funny Drk trolls scared of cloak when their beloved
mixer drops alittle in price

Actually, you'll probably find that most of the CLK money supply is owned by DRK holders as a hedge, given that you can pick up 5 times the amount of CLK for 1 DRK.

No tribalism, just common trading sense.



And yet there's a couple of them in here trolling and calling Cloak a scam. Huh
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