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1161  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ViaCoin. Yet another scam? on: July 29, 2014, 01:35:00 AM
Yet another pnd shit coin by the "professional" traders on twitter.

Must of lost alot in crypto? Don't go on bashing every coin, its not Our fault you invested into shit coins, should rename this thread to Bagholders Anonymous  Cheesy Cheesy
1162  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: July 28, 2014, 10:49:07 PM
is Ciara the combination of Cialis and Viagara? Smiley lol..just joking ..
is the source of erection of cloak price...

Well I am guessing CIARA is an acronym for some new feature. Spend some time trying to figure it out Smiley

I think the first letter is obvious C: Cloak. I: Integrated maybe Huh 
1163  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Cloakcoin's PoSA is not a trustless system for anonymous transaction on: July 28, 2014, 06:47:46 AM
You dont get it. This question has been answered. If you think it's possible to do then please demo it for all of us.



demo you can not see anything. The cheating will not be done with cloakcoin released client, the question is what measures used to prevent it.

Nono, go ahead and make your own client and try to steal coins.

Trust me, as an investor I would like to see this happen. If you find a bug and it truly is a bug I'll be more then happy to throw some btc your way.

Please demo this for us.

Oh I see what you say. Yes I can try it, but from the algorithm we will know if it can be cheated or not. If you take no measures, it will be cheated easily. That's why the anonymous system most implemented the centralized mixer system, for the coinjoin (DRK, SUPER phase-1 etc). Because this way you don't need to take any measures against the cheating, these mixers nodes are trusted.

The Cloakcoin claims any nodes can be elected. There you need forceful way to prevent this node from cheating. If you use mutlisig address/transactions (like supercoin claimed), you use an escrow that prevents any nodes from cheating, or they will lose their parts in escrow. In Cloak's whitepaper, there's nothing like this. The raw tx is transferred, and this raw tx can be changed and post to network any time. If you don't have any measures, cheating is very easy.


Are you refusing to provide a demo?

Your the one claiming that cloaks PoSA  is not a trustless system. We would like to see you do it instead of asking Cloak devs to show how its trustless and unexploited, your the one making the claim so your the one who should show us that i can be done.

Forget the algo, the code...etc

Cheat the system and steal Cloakcoins if you can, if you show a demo of this like Bob said I'll also send you a nice bounty for doing so. .

Edit: As I mentioned in the last thread that was locked and sadly no one bothered to see my post. I spoken to the devs a hour ago and I was told a new well detailed whitepaper on PoSA is being written.
1164  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: July 28, 2014, 06:10:29 AM
I vote Bob for chancellor of Cloakcoin's public image department.

He speaks the truth, is unafraid, and doesn't give 2 shits about "etiquette" when calling out people who are spreading lies.

Crypto as a whole needs more people like him, and less apologists.

I've been known to kick up a shitstorm myself, I almost single handedly killed ZimStake (while holding over 20,000 of them mind you) by being the only one in that community with the balls to call out the Dev on being absent for a month straight, as the community got 25,000 votes on mintpal on our own, he decided it wasn't worth his time to even make an appearance the day we got listed. Oh wait he did, said that he'd have an announcement later that night, then he want absent for another week. While the ANN thread was nothing but people saying how great this coin is, i was the only one asking WTF is going on. whenever i did i'd get apologist shitheads calling me out for trying to hurt their investment, as they were just trying to prop up a house of cards.

In the end it was thanks to ME, and a couple others that followed my lead that the dev actually came back and started taking responsability after his coin lost %90 of it's value for not delivering anything. If you don't hold people's feet to the fire, they won't get shit done. ZimStake is now on the road to recovery and will be back to 10k+ satoshis in no time, for a coin with 3.5 million coins, it's very cheap. And those of you invested in DRK, if you want to help your investment, then here's some free advice, stop propping up garbage with a big smile on your face trying to get others to hold your bags for you, your time would be better spent on giving your devs a clue about what's really happening in the anon world, because they obviously are in need of help. if you see something bad happening and don't call it out, you're as complacent as those in charge for destroying the investment, you're an accessory.

so good for Bob, and everyone like him for calling out bullshit where they see it, crypto needs more of that, or else it'll remain a noob-trap for dumb investors, forever slave to the PnD groups looking to make a quick buck, and we'll never get the mainstream acceptance we deserve. Anyone attacking bob needs to go find another hobby, cause they're not doing any good here.

Interesting view, I would say. Bobsurplus is always trolling every thread on bct except the thread of his own coin. Some time in the future he will sell his Cloakcoins and will start trolling here. So you think it's in Cloakcoins benefit to have us represented by such a person. Please lets be clear on this one community, I want to know if I want to sell my coins right away.

i'm not sure how you're smart enough to type and breathe at the same time. if one person speaking their mind is too much for you, then you'd better just sell now and run for the hills. you're in waaaay over your head. How could any rational person let some random anon on the internet dictate how you manage your own finances everytime they say the word "poop".

"HAAAAY GUYS, I HATE CAROL, THAT BITCH IS ALWAYS BEING RUDE TO EVERYONE, YOU ALL HATE CAROL TOO RIGHT? GUYS? I MEAN SHE'S OBVIOUSLY THE WORST RIGHT? GUYS? I'M SERIOUS NOW, I'M GOING TO LEAVE THIS PARTY RIGHT NOW IF YOU DON'T ALL TELL CAROL TO LEAVE, GUYS I'M SERIOUS! I'M GOING TO LEAVE! I'M LEAVING!"

don't let the door hit your ass on the way out, cause i don't want ass marks on my new $600,000 door i just bought with how much money i'm making from dumpers like you.

Thanks for convincing me, I am out. Good luck to you guys.

Sure you are  Wink Cheesy
1165  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Cloakcoin's PoSA is not a trustless system for anonymous transaction on: July 28, 2014, 06:04:17 AM
Well the thread title seems abit misleading, are you saying PoSA is not a trustless system or claiming its not? From what I understand just by reading the title is that CLoaks PoSA is not trustless. Might want to take a look at that.
1166  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Cloakcoin's PoSA is not a trustless system in anonymous transaction on: July 28, 2014, 05:30:05 AM
Well Cloakcoin claimed that their PoSA is a trustless system, but I read their whitepaper in the thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=637704.0

It seems to me that this is not at all a trustless system. The reason is that the "elected" nodes have no restrictions at all to follow the rules (i.e. send coins to destination etc), he can change at will the transaction or even steal the coins. So the PoSA is a poorly designed trust system, which trust the "elected" node. Only until they cheated, they may be banned.

Creating addresses is easy, so a cheater can simply create a new address, cheat once, then move to another address and cheat again. PoSA is not a trustless system.

On the contrary, Supercoin is creating a trustless system by using multisig addresses and transactions. To be a trustless system, you must give restrictions to the middle nodes, so they must follow the rules. From what I read, the SuperCoin achieves this by creating multisig address, as an escrow, each party including middle nodes, have assets in the escrow, so they can't cheat, or they may lose the assets in escrow, which may be bigger than what they cheat.

I am not associate with Supercoin or Cloakcoin, the reason I do not post these in Cloakcoin's thread is because their thread is self-mod, so they can delete anything at will.

I welcome Cloakcoin dev to discuss here and prove me wrong, as although I am pretty experienced and understand most altcoin details, I could be wrong. But from what I read, I am pretty sure that Cloakcoin PoSA is not a trustless system, but a poorly designed trust system.



This thread bound to happen, Looking at your posts you do look like a Supercoin supporter but that doesn't make a difference really. This might be FUD or might be true but if you what you say is true could you show us a demonstration?  

You claim there's a loophole, an exploit mind doing a demonstration and upload a video showing how this would be done and if its even possible?

You might be right or wrong but until this is actually performed then sorry to say this is just an unproven theory.

@stealth, I know your a dark supporter and nothing wrong with that, if Bob or whoever is posting FUD on darkcoin's thread doesn't mean you should too, aren't you better than the people doing so?

Ignore the FUDers simple as that, hoping this discussion can stay on topic as this helps the development, innovation, evolution of cryptos. Its not always about the money.

I am a cloak holder and supporter for the innovations they are doing but FUDing other coins is non-sense, childish and immature.

Please show demonstrations.

I also agree to the whitepaper, the current paper should be re-written explaining in detail how PoSA works but that doesn't mean it doesn't. I'll try contacting the devs and requesting a more detailed/technical whitepaper on PoSA.

Thank you.

Edit: Spoke to one of the Devs, a new, more detailed whitepaper is currently being written.
1167  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: July 27, 2014, 10:20:02 PM
and....Finally we broke the all time high!!!
1168  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: July 27, 2014, 01:54:08 PM
Kitaco reported to moderator for constant unnecessary fudding.

Wonder who paid her to FUD. Good news, bad news, no news she FUDs. These scumbags do this for living, guessing sent from one of the shit coins with their coin mixers  Cheesy
1169  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 【PRE-ANN】MINERCOIN X11 POW FAST OUT 1000BLOCK!/POS on: July 27, 2014, 09:26:34 AM
So dev, your...rox? cam? vast? conceal coin?
1170  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★★★SUMcoin[X11]★★★POW/POS ★★★only 55.000 coins★★★1000% POS★★★ on: July 26, 2014, 01:15:07 PM
We passed the 1000 block and this is only the beginning.

Difficulty  6.44763289

Beginning of the end, might want to wrap that premine with latex before shoving it up your ass... Cheesy
1171  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★★★SUMcoin[X11]★★★POW/POS ★★★only 55.000 coins★★★1000% POS★★★ on: July 26, 2014, 01:14:22 PM
Elitecoin dev?  Smiley

Roger that  Cheesy
1172  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRKC] DarkCash | 0 PREMINE | POW/POS | X11 | P2P Exchange | ATM | ANON on: July 25, 2014, 02:25:15 PM


What the hell?

I have the exact same problem?Huh

I close it and re-open it and its fixed for awhile then i get it again. Been able to send and receive normally though.
1173  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: July 25, 2014, 02:19:32 PM


The difference between me and your broker is that I guarantee a profit and a much better one
A much better profit? LMAO! This just keeps getting better.
The only guarantees in life are death and taxes and only a fool would fall for your scheme. I'm done but do let us know about all the profit you make for the suckers.

BTW if you're so good at making money then why are you in here begging? Your gambling buddies should have plenty of dough to invest with you.

He is doing the same at many other coin threads, not just cloak.
I was sure that was the case I was just too lazy to look. Comes from the "if you throw enough crap on the wall some of it is bound to stick" playbook.

You watch suits recently  Wink
1174  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BIO] * BIOCOIN - First Organic Food Market Backed Up! IPO Open! Join NOW! [BIO] on: July 25, 2014, 02:15:48 PM
One of our farmers grapes cultivation field.



Location: Italy.


This mine: Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



Location: Italy

If you were serious and if that real exists you would be showing satellite images using google maps of the location, where in italy, size of the land, how many grape vines there ware...etc
 
So you really think if you showed that picture to a real big investor and tell him thats one of your farms and ask him to invest, you think he would?

Buddy you must be living in a different world than all of us...good luck though.
1175  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRKC] DarkCash | 0 PREMINE | POW/POS | X11 | P2P Exchange | ATM | ANON on: July 25, 2014, 02:03:04 PM
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1176  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRKC] DarkCash | 0 PREMINE | POW/POS | X11 | P2P Exchange | ATM | ANON on: July 25, 2014, 02:02:28 PM


What the hell?
1177  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRKC] DarkCash | 0 PREMINE | POW/POS | X11 | P2P Exchange | ATM | ANON on: July 25, 2014, 01:50:19 PM
anyone notice someone strange with the wallet?

I got it to run and all synch up about 10 minutes I noticed i am out of sync and it shows that its download blocks again this time with over 6000 blocks remaining...

Whats that about?
1178  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRKC] DarkCash | 0 PREMINE | POW/POS | X11 | P2P Exchange | ATM | ANON on: July 25, 2014, 01:36:10 PM
100MB Wallet

What was inside?

A bunch of clowns, balloon animals and a big cake  Cheesy Cheesy
1179  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ESC] ESportsCoin | PoW + PoS Hybrid | Fair Launch | ESend Anon Solution on: July 25, 2014, 01:29:18 PM
Send some love to Atomic Trade and we will add it EfD16Bb2Q1YBHykVF15QHEpnXwFpHzWCDF


Status: 0/unconfirmed, broadcast through 9 nodes
Date: 7/25/2014 07:28
To: EfD16Bb2Q1YBHykVF15QHEpnXwFpHzWCDF
Debit: -5.00 ESC
Transaction fee: -0.00001 ESC
Net amount: -5.00001 ESC
Transaction ID: 1261812982f1aecced712684f99b57093d90fb76f504672b80c4b3cf572a991c
1180  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN]B2B coin - Block rewards increase during time. on: July 25, 2014, 01:19:19 PM
1% Premine (for development, cloud wallet, B2BVOIP,...)

Let me guess in wallet VOIP?
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