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6741  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 25, 2014, 06:23:52 PM
There is absolutely NO WAY an international trading market would settle in sideways EXACTLY @ $500 price point on its own.  Absolutely no way.

Only way is colluding whales could stick it there.
6742  Economy / Speculation / Re: The "What should Chartbuddy do" poll on: August 25, 2014, 02:44:11 PM
I think the Chartbuddy bot is a cool project.  But may I ask of those who didn't create it, what value does Chartbuddy really add that cannot be found on a site like bitcoinity or bitcoinwisdom?
6743  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: August 25, 2014, 01:46:33 PM
if i rent for 25years i end with nothing.
if i buy and pay mortgage for 25years i end with a house.

who in there right mind would rent?

If renting is a fraction of the cost of buying, you could use the extra money to enjoy a higher standard of living for those 25 years.

Maintaining a home can also be quite expensive (ignoring the purchase cost).

but living in a really expenvice house =  higher standard of living

Adam, I'm starting to wonder exactly how old you are.  Because if you have lived life long enough (to at least age 40-ish), and have spent some amount of time in an "expensive" house, you would understand the realized absurdity of that statement.  When you experience it for yourself, you'll finally "get it".

i have a tiny condo

wana trade?

i want to "get it"

BS a nice house doesn't improve standard of living, BS


There is nothing wrong with owning a house.  Just buy an inexpensive one with low upkeep, and as work hard and as fast as possible to own it outright.  Just like 6-7 year financial loans for cars are pure evil, so are 30-year mortgages.  It doesn't matter what great interest rate you get from the bank, they and the rest of life OWNS you if you are locked into high debt.  The first 10-15 yrs of a mortgage is pretty much all interest paid back to the bank first, and nowadays most people don't stay in their first or even second home nearly that long.  Not to mention all the "upgrades" and sunk/hidden costs that they never recoupe.

I would take a condo that I owned outright, over a financed house that was owning ME any day.
6744  Economy / Speculation / Re: Sell now! Collapse incoming on: August 25, 2014, 11:44:04 AM
Hounter?  Haunter?
6745  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin is not a get rich quick scheme on: August 25, 2014, 11:41:53 AM
It amazes me that there are people out there who throw away their hard-earned money on daily and weekly lotteries for years/decades, but scoff at the idea of buying and holding bitcoin for at least 12 months.  Bitcoin is about a 1M : 1 chance of a return over a jackpot lottery ticket.

I guess it's the same mentality though, wanting just to get rich quick or not at all.
6746  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: August 25, 2014, 03:17:58 AM
if i rent for 25years i end with nothing.
if i buy and pay mortgage for 25years i end with a house.

who in there right mind would rent?

If renting is a fraction of the cost of buying, you could use the extra money to enjoy a higher standard of living for those 25 years.

Maintaining a home can also be quite expensive (ignoring the purchase cost).

but living in a really expenvice house =  higher standard of living

Adam, I'm starting to wonder exactly how old you are.  Because if you have lived life long enough (to at least age 40-ish), and have spent some amount of time in an "expensive" house, you would understand the realized absurdity of that statement.  When you experience it for yourself, you'll finally "get it".
6747  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 24, 2014, 07:34:07 PM
Traders are trying to bounce as high away from 480 as possible, to make it seem like 480 was the bottom.  That strategy doesn't seem to be working.
6748  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 23, 2014, 09:02:25 PM
The problem with a long slide down is, you don't know where the slide ends.   Undecided
6749  Economy / Speculation / Re: Good time to wait, short, or buy... for the short term to immediate term? on: August 23, 2014, 02:04:39 PM
I disagree about trading up to 700-750 range and then back down again.  If we get anywhere near 750 on rising volume then a new rally is in the works for sure.

That's why if you're a long investor and still on the fence about buying more, now is a good time to buy in the scheme of things.  Don't wait for the pre-rally period or you'll be panic buying at much higher prices along with everyone else.
6750  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 23, 2014, 01:59:08 PM
Looks like we are poised for another dump.

Hence the lack of buyers and large spreads.


Hence sellers that dump.
6751  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 23, 2014, 01:25:32 PM
Where are the buyers that are supposed to take us to moon?  Angry
6752  Economy / Speculation / Re: ADAM has shown his true color, he is a desperate BEAR! on: August 22, 2014, 06:59:28 PM
So... did ya hear the Bitstamp customers are trying to withdrawal their bitcoins but can't?

http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/2ea4f0/bitstamp_bitcoin_withdrawals_are_currently/

(trololololololol)
6753  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 22, 2014, 06:56:57 PM
What's wrong Adam?

Let's talk about Adam and pretend he can't hear what we're saying.
6754  Economy / Speculation / Re: Troll Observer BTC/TRL - Bitcoin troll movement tracking & discussion on: August 22, 2014, 06:52:49 PM
Call to action:

OK, bulls have trains and rockets and when things are on the way down, the bears like to post pictures of trains derailing and rockets exploding on the launchpad. Fair enough.

But I think it's time bears had their own meme, something that cheers along the downward motion in a bear-positive manner. I'd imagine something like downhill skiing, skydiving, I dunno, something along those lines. Being a bear is more than being an anti-bull surely?

Thoughts (and pictures)?

6755  Economy / Speculation / Re: This is nothing. on: August 22, 2014, 04:39:30 PM
I don't think that somebody can really say that this recent drop in value is a "big crash", infact it was only an healthy correction Smiley

What was the error that was corrected?

Over leverage.  Bitfinex long leverage has almost halved, and short leverage has doubled so the ratio long/short is 1/4 what it used to be.

Yeah, but leveraged longs can rush back into the market at any time.  There's nothing to stop them if they start to see upward volume movement.

It's not like leveraging long was a one time thing.
6756  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: August 22, 2014, 04:15:14 PM
^^^^
Thanks for the info! So at what price do you see silver to likely bottom out, and when?  Just curious.
6757  Economy / Speculation / Re: This is nothing. on: August 22, 2014, 03:50:51 PM
I don't think that somebody can really say that this recent drop in value is a "big crash", infact it was only an healthy correction Smiley

What was the error that was corrected?

Exactly.  There is no such thing as a "healthy" correction.  Is holding bitcoin in hopes that it will rise, unhealthy?  If so, then we are all in trouble.

The only thing that changed was many holders' near term expectations.  People rushed back into the market in April, and were holding for 5 months all through the summer, betting on a rally at the end of it that never came.  Because silly TA charts, graphs, and lines told them so.

Bitcoin is Honey Badger; it doesn't give an f-- about silly charts, graphs, and lines.  Grin
6758  Economy / Speculation / Re: Coinbase resumes buying bitcoins today? on: August 22, 2014, 03:45:43 PM
Keep in mind too, that probably 90% of buyers that get "stopped at the door" with that irritating Coinbase message get turned off, and just decide to buy later.  Or many not at all, if the price has started to top out in the charts.

People want to buy when they decide the price looks good, not when Coinbase decides.  Their business model sucks.

Very few take a gamble that the market price will be the same or lower several days later, as no one can predict that.
6759  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: August 22, 2014, 03:00:01 PM
What spawned the silver rally in 2011?  And where do you see the silver price by end of 2014?
6760  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 22, 2014, 02:39:36 PM
stepped out to go to the store, which exchange initiated the jump to 520?
500 BTC purchase on Bitstamp.

china started.

point is everyone followed cuz no one has a clue

BUY BUY BUY!



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