7401
|
Economy / Speculation / Re: Massive buy order only on Bitstamp.
|
on: January 30, 2014, 09:34:27 PM
|
I bought several times on the way from $32 back down to $2. It was really difficult to convince my lizard brain that I was doing the right thing, because I just kept seeing loss after loss rack up on every trade.
... snip ...
My advice remains buy and hold. (for the longest time)
Thank you for this background on your experiences, sgbett. What you went through echoes my own since November. I bought on the way up (thank the gods not all at the top!), and I am now buying a bit here and there on the way back down. I have some fiat waiting for a final capitulation, but realize that it may or may not materialize. As a n00b I made some rookie mistakes, but I can forgive myself since I basically discovered bitcoin right at the beginning of the China rally, and thus had no time to really analyze the market or fully understand what the heck was going on with Bitcoin. It was all brand new to me, so I sort of just went all in. (Also Coinbase made things difficult to get a sizable position going early on and I actually lost money with their slow onboarding process, but that's another story....) Now I feel like I know this market a little better than I did then. But overall, I'm not a day trader. I'm in it for the long haul because I believe in Bitcoin. Right now, I'm just trying to amass as many BTC as I can before the next leg up. After that, my appetite for buying more will greatly decrease. I plan to hold for at least 1.5 to 2 years before taking any profits. My advice to anyone is, "Buy some and then buy some more. Keep buying until you are satisfied that you have enough."
|
|
|
7403
|
Economy / Speculation / Re: FIATLEAK.COM
|
on: January 30, 2014, 06:45:50 PM
|
I'm starting to get a sense that there are forces at work in China, who do not like Bobby Lee and wish to run him and his business out of town. Perhaps because he is seen as an outsider, and in the beginning acted as if his company had "cornered the bitcoin market" in China. IDK. He seems to have to play by a different set of rules than that of either Huobi or OKCoin just to stay viable.
|
|
|
7404
|
Economy / Speculation / Re: FIATLEAK.COM
|
on: January 30, 2014, 06:20:20 PM
|
Just watching it feels like something is going to blow on their servers. Like it's stuck in an infinite loop or something.
|
|
|
7405
|
Economy / Speculation / Re: FIATLEAK.COM
|
on: January 30, 2014, 05:51:34 PM
|
Holy shit just noticed myself, over 12k btc this hour.. suddenly back from the dead.
At 2am whilst everyone sleeps. Notice it is not a 'dump' as such, but how buy ins are being rapidly triggered, followed by yet more selling, whilst the price trends down. Someone is dumping all their BTC at max possible price. Yeah, but look at the 1m chart. Price is not actually trending down, is it? My theories: 1. Fake volume created by bots using large trades (to avoid fees) to show higher level of activity. 2. Some type of test of the trading system. 3 An attack on BTC China to somehow discredit them. That much CNY going into into a corporate bank account is going to raise some red flags. 4. Some large whale on BTC China just wants out.
|
|
|
7408
|
Economy / Speculation / Re: January 31st, Will China ban exchanger's bank transfers funding methods?
|
on: January 29, 2014, 08:53:25 PM
|
Here's the real reason why China is suspending bank withdrawals from Jan. 31st - Feb. 7th : http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2014/01/29/shadow-banking-chinas-wobbly-house-of-cards/"Among the many issues raised by this episode, two deserve special attention. The first is the hitherto undisclosed risks in China's shadow banking sector, which is estimated to have $6 trillion in outstanding loans. The second is the increased likelihood of a major default in the very near future." The PBOC is saying they are suspending bank and ATM operations due to "system maintenance." Yeah, riiiight. Just like in June 2013, and Dec. 2013. So they are having a liquidity crisis. Yes, it will affect Chinese wanting to buy bitcoin during that time. No, it really has nothing to do with bitcoin per se. When you have a chinese Shadow banking system that is basically one big Ponzi Scheme, bad things are going to start happening. January 31st marks the start of when banks have to start "paying the piper", i.e. the Chinese investors. And the Chinese government has known about this upcoming crisis since last year.
|
|
|
7409
|
Economy / Speculation / Re: BITCOIN IS CRASHING TO SINGLE DIGITS
|
on: January 29, 2014, 08:14:16 PM
|
A PROFESSOR OF FINANCE AT THE CURRENT NY HEARINGS JUST MENTIONED THAT BITCOIN WILL FALL TO SINGLE DIGITS BY JUNE OF THIS YEAR!
I can confirm that the video captured him saying this. So confirmed.
|
|
|
7412
|
Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;)
|
on: January 29, 2014, 06:44:53 PM
|
It's funny, so many bitcoiners focused on the date of Jan. 31st, but little do they know it's for all the wrong reasons. Can't see the Chinese forest for the trees. Do people with no eye on what's happening in the emerging markets really think that the Chinese government would put an arbitrary date of Jan. 31st, 2014, the announcement almost 2 months ahead of schedule, because they were focused on suspending bank withdrawals for.... just bitcoin? Really? Really?? China will be suspending bank withdrawals from Jan 31st to about Feb 7th, and it has little do with the bitcoin market. It's just coincidental that it would effect bitcoin purchasing as well. Just do the research online and you'll find out why.
|
|
|
7414
|
Economy / Speculation / Re: You are offered $5,000 per bitcoin, but can never hold any again
|
on: January 29, 2014, 04:23:25 PM
|
My answer is no. I think $5K is a little short sighted, a speed bump on the way up to something much higher. Plus I just want to own, use, and spend bitcoin. It's a revolution of sorts but still in its infancy.
Also as far as altcoins go, some folks need to realize that their ultimate success (as something other than pure speculation) will depend heavily on how far bitcoin goes in terms of adoption/use.
|
|
|
7415
|
Economy / Speculation / Re: What possible event on horizon will rocket bitcoin to the moon again?
|
on: January 28, 2014, 10:44:31 PM
|
As much as a lot of people don't want to hear this because of the ideals of many bitcoiners, one of the major banks coming forward and publicly supporting or backing bitcoin (by pumping a lot of money into it), could push the value significantly higher quickly).
I have heard from a few people in the industry that this is close to happening and may happen in the next few months. Wells Fargo is obviously sticking their feelers out there right now. They have usually been the most cautious of the major banks in the past (which is why they did not even really need any of the bank bailout funds). While all the banks were making money hand over fist with the Negative-Amortization Mortgages, Wells Fargo pretty much steered clear.
It would be weird to see them jump in first to bitcoin, but it could happen. Another thing to keep in mind is that Wells Fargo is partially the United States Gov't, so it could be a way for the Gov't to get there hands into bitcoin without the general public even realizing it...
I agree with the Wells Fargo scenario. One of the regulators on the panel even hinted as much, with his comment of "have you guys thought about becoming or funding/supporting a bitcoin bank?" The implication being that US banks already have to comply with US state money transmitter and KYC laws/regulations, and so thus a US bank would have a much easier time becoming a US-based bitcoin exchange. But the question becomes, what exactly does a US bank have for incentive to becoming a bitcoin exchange? Perhaps fiat conversion fees? Trading fees? Or maybe they wave the fees... I could see them only supporting their own bank accounts for ACH transfers. Not exactly decentralized and unbiased, if you ask me. But the average US-based Joe bitcoiner might see this as a "lesser of two evils" as opposed to relying on Coinbase and the foreign bitcoin exchanges for everything bitcoin-related. If a US bank jumped in, I could see others follow in short order...
|
|
|
7417
|
Economy / Speculation / Re: NY Hearings - lets live blog this puppy : - )
|
on: January 28, 2014, 09:10:54 PM
|
I think we need to simplify it for the regulators, not make it more complicated (with discussion around colored coins). Or else these regulations will take forever to draft/approve/publish and be overly complicated to follow and comply with.
Also I'm not sure that Panel 2 has the right mix of folks to be commenting on how bitcoins should be classified (commodity, currency, etc.), nor taxed/treated at the State level.
The problem for the regulators is that you can't dumb Bitcoin down. It is a complex system. You would be doing them a disservice by making it out to be simpler than it is. There are no sufficient analogies for cryptocurrencies - the sooner they wake up to that fact the better. I don't disagree with you that bitcoin has complexity to it under the hood. But on the surface, it has a sort of simplicity once you understand the 5-6 core attributes. From a regulation standpoint, however, the first panel was very concerned about the speed at which regulators can publish useful guidelines and proper compliance regulations, and how easy (or difficult) and cost effective it will be to adhere to those regulations. Too much cumbersome or expensive US regulation, and you stifle (or complete stop) the ability for small bitcoin developers and businesses to be able to adopt and move forward.
|
|
|
7418
|
Economy / Speculation / Re: NY Hearings - lets live blog this puppy : - )
|
on: January 28, 2014, 08:53:11 PM
|
I think we need to simplify it for the regulators, not make it more complicated (with discussion around colored coins). Or else these regulations will take forever to draft/approve/publish and be overly complicated to follow and comply with.
Also I'm not sure that Panel 2 has the right mix of folks to be commenting on how bitcoins should be classified (commodity, currency, etc.), nor taxed/treated at the State level.
|
|
|
7420
|
Other / Beginners & Help / Re: hoarding bitcoins
|
on: January 16, 2014, 05:03:38 PM
|
Remember that eventually, somewhere in the next 10 years, ALL the Bitcoins will be mined and in the system.
I agree with the overall sentiment of your post, but just wanted to point out this one discrepancy. It won't be until roughly the year 2140 before all 21M bitcoins have been mined. See reference here: "By 2140 there will be approximately 21 million bitcoins in existence and transaction processing will be solely incentivized by transaction fees." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin
|
|
|
|