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7041  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 27, 2014, 04:50:22 PM
This was supposed to be the big one. Our "Silk Road Event" from 2013... the cataylst to the new ATH. So many people have been claiming that these coins will sell for a premium and catapult the market upward. So if it doesn't happen, then I know who's full of shit and who's worth listening to  Smiley

Hell I'm a perma-bull, and even I don't think this.  Even if the coins are sold for a premium above market (whatever that means), and it leaks out to the public (never gonna happen), I wouldn't expect a huge rally or anything.  In fact, I'd place my bets on some really stupid fake FUD leak coming out on Monday saying that the coins sold for $200 a piece or some shit.  Prompting yet again another mass panic sell off for no reason at all.  Either that, or maybe next week comes and goes without anything major happening.

You see, bubbles are actually created (ie., fabricated) by whales who wait for the perfect market conditions to happen + advanced insider knowledge of some major announcements coming down the pipe.  Then they start slowly pre-seeding the market with mega dollars to begin the rally.  The bubble then feeds on itself, and is catapulted higher with mega media attention + the reveal of the major good news announcements near the middle.  This is all planned ahead of time, months in advance.  This happens in the stock market as well.

So I just don't see the next 2 weeks as that perfect storm.  Perhaps we are still 6-8 weeks away.  Or perhaps, not even until next year sometime.  I still see a slow steady rise in price regardless of what happens this year.

Edit: Oh you were being sarcastic.  Got it.
7042  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 27, 2014, 03:31:44 PM
Is there something astrological that explains why people here are being so angry of recent?

I'll probably be a little grumpy until I see the BTC price back around ~$660-680, where it was before the absolutely stupid FUD circus kicked in nearly a month ago.  It seems the ongoing stupidity continues to drown out all of the exciting good news happening in the Bitcoin space right now, and that is a real downer.  

BTC is grossly undervalued right now, and most people don't even realize it.  When you have super high net worth professional investors clamoring over each other to buy large amounts of BTC in a U.S. sponsored auction for $$ millions, that only underscores just how undervalued it is.
7043  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will BTC rise from the ashes? on: June 27, 2014, 03:18:46 PM
What ashes?

Well, 500dollars compared to 1200 doesn't look good, does it?
You get my point.

Back in June 2013, $70 compared to $266 didn't look good either.  Was bitcoin in ashes then?

Just sayin'...
7044  Economy / Speculation / Re: This Bitfinex Credit Bubble cannot end well on: June 27, 2014, 03:05:45 PM
Guys

Since when so called "moderators" are starting FUD threads?

Cui prodest?

Ask yourself this simple question and if your IQ is not lower than your shoe size you'll come up with the right conclusion.

Have a good day and a great weekend

Giancarlo
Bitfinex Team


Dude, I know you absolutely love your exchange and have every right to defend it.  But can you please lay off with the childish insults?  Do you see other prominent exchange operators worldwide talking to the public like this?

You are quickly proving yourself to be the MOST UNPROFESSIONAL Bitcoin exchange operator there is, bar none.  If you don't think that your business will suffer in the long run for acting like that, you're delusional.
7045  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 27, 2014, 02:44:08 PM
The answer to your question is very simple: the market price is the price you can buy or sell bitcoins for on the market at a given time. In the case of the auction the given time would be the time someone actually places their final bid(s). Because once you decide to make a bid you look at the current price on the exchanges and then figure out where you are going to place your bid relative to that. You will probably also look at the direction the price is heading and your bid will be lower if you think it's going down short term and higher if you think it's going up. So $600 per coin would have been above market most of the time people could place their bids and $500 would be below market. Is this all really that hard to understand? Are you an idiot?

Ok, let's say someone bids $550 right now.  Are they below market or above market?  There is no CLOSE OF THE MARKET DAY in bitcoin like there is in stocks.  What if price falls to $520 by 5:59pm ET today?  Or shoots up to $630 by 1AM ET Saturday morning?  Then back down to $520 by Monday afternoon?

I think ShroomsKit's point is pretty clear, and your's isn't.  Who's the idiot now?
7046  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 27, 2014, 02:29:21 PM
good morning bitcoin!

Very good morning Adam. Let me pour some Baileys in your coffee.

It seems the bear trap has snapped shut and the silly little auction has passed without the sky falling down.

All that and it's a gorgeous day here in T.O.

Life is good.

Wait, what? Are you telling me it isn't the biggest event of the year? I'm very confused now. Looking at the market behaviour the last week it has to be.  
Don't tell me people now are like "what auction?" and move on to the next thing. That would be crazy.

10 second old news is old.  Gimme a new piece of FUD on the horizon!  We need a new (inconsequential) date out there for people to fret and worry about!  

C'mon China, where's a new ban deadline when you need one??
7047  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 27, 2014, 02:26:18 PM
Stamp 1W MACD just flipped back to green.
7048  Economy / Speculation / Re: Four Charts That Suggest Bitcoin Value Could Be At 10,000 USD Next Year on: June 27, 2014, 01:35:42 PM
I don't get who is going to keep buying these bitcoins to push the price that high.

Do you really believe that everyone now is either buying WHOLE bitcoins or nothing at all?  If you believe that the price goes that high because only one or a few people are buying whole bitcoins at that price, then there's a lot you don't yet understand about how exponential growth works.

1 person buying 1 btc @ $10,000 = 10 people buying 0.1 btc @ $1,000 = 100 people buying 0.01 btc @ $100 = 1000 people buying 0.001 btc @ $10, etc.

As you can see, as the pool of bitcoin buyers grows exponentially, it will only take each one of them buying a small amount of btc to push the price/btc up to astronomical levels.

7049  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 27, 2014, 01:11:15 PM
THERE WILL BE NO ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE USMS ON MONDAY

THE WINNERS WILL BE TOLD PRIVATELY THAT THEY WON

THE LOSERS WILL BE TOLD PRVATELY ONLY THAT THEY LOST

ANYONE WILL BE FREE TO LIE ABOUT IT

READ THE DUCKING MANUAL
I mean, the USMS announcement and FAQ, it could not be any clearer:
http://www.usmarshals.gov/assets/2014/bitcoins/
http://www.usmarshals.gov/assets/2014/bitcoins/faqs.pdf
Sorry for shouting.  Grin

THANK YOU FOR REITERATING THE TRUTH!!!!  THIS FORUM HAS GONE INSANE
7050  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 27, 2014, 01:08:37 PM
I think it stands to reason that the price of at least some of the lots will be known even if there isnt an official announcement. Im sure someone who buys a lot will either already be in the bitcoin community or at least willing to speak to some sort of media.

Supposition and ass talk
7051  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 27, 2014, 12:56:48 PM
When does the auction finish??

I think on 30th June auction will be finish, and hope sideways movement too and will move upwards after that.

Auction finishes today 6pm EST

I know auction finish today and anonunce on monday but till bid will not anounce we can't say it is finish.

Guys, what, WHAT WHAT WHAT do you think is going to be announced exactly on Monday?  Hmmm?

If you say, "what the selling price was", I'm going to reach through this computer screen and stab you in the jaw with a fork.

The selling price will be anounced monday.
Point me to the link where that has been officially said, please.
7052  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 27, 2014, 12:50:19 PM
When does the auction finish??

I think on 30th June auction will be finish, and hope sideways movement too and will move upwards after that.

Auction finishes today 6pm EST

I know auction finish today and anonunce on monday but till bid will not anounce we can't say it is finish.

Guys, what, WHAT WHAT WHAT do you think is going to be announced exactly on Monday?  Hmmm?

If you say, "what the selling price was", I'm going to reach through this computer screen and stab you in the jaw with a fork.
7053  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bolivia Bans Bitcoin. on: June 27, 2014, 12:35:11 AM
Hey matt, what do you think about a crypto that was only traded for gold or something (meaning the users would not trade it for Fiat). I know it has many flaws (hard to divide a piece of gold for a fraction of a bitcoin). I made a thread similar to this subject (a few days ago in this spec forum and had slight discussions about this (on other threads here).

I personally think it probably would not work because people would just break the rules and exchange for fiat (and gold is too hard to break up and exchange for the cryptos)
If you mean a virtual currency backed by real gold.  Been there, done that, and it failed spectacularly:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-gold
7054  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 27, 2014, 12:28:11 AM
I've noticed a trend on this subforum.  

In an uptrend, if the price is going down, the bears are nowhere to be found on this sub.  But when the price starts to go up (mysteriously), the bears swoosh in with their charts and bullshit TA and try to tell you why it's all a mirage and we're going to be going down again soon.

 Roll Eyes
7055  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 26, 2014, 11:14:39 PM
One of the best day traders on TradingView has this to say:


https://www.tradingview.com/v/i6Bft9Je/


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COULD NOT GET ANY MORE BULLISH

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HOW THE FUCK COULD IT GET ANY MORE BULLISH!?!?!?!?!?!?!

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Do we need Jesus to come down and endorse bitcoin?!


He sounds kind of desperate.

Instead of posting that, and since you are a TA guru, why don't you give us a rundown of his TA indicators and tell us why he's wrong? 

Or are you really a bear troll in disguise?   Smiley
7056  Economy / Speculation / Re: Current Bitcoin Trend on: June 26, 2014, 05:16:56 PM


Image sais it all. Seems like no ATH this year, folks.
You wanna post this chart again when the year is actually near end?

Here, have another chart:

7057  Economy / Speculation / Re: Headed back up? on: June 26, 2014, 05:10:27 PM
Ok, since you guys love charts so much, here's one:



Queue the uber bears who will try and prove why it has no validity, with charts of their own that have no validity.
7058  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 26, 2014, 03:47:59 PM
I don't expect the price to be released anytime soon, if ever. It'll probably be irrelevant for the purposes of market sentiment, that's why it is so astonishing to me that people are seriously debating this, but I won't say no to joining the fun. Cheesy

Quoted for truth.  Yeah, I'm starting to seriously dislike the "Speculation" subforum because the participants want to completely ignore reality in favor of some made up fantasy.

I'll probably be leaving it behind sometime soon, as it's usefulness has almost completely run it's course for me.

Quote from: Blitz
<quick, run away and avoid answering this question.  Again.>   Roll Eyes
Again? Where did I avoid answering one of your questions? I'd like to do so now, sorry if I missed it.

Edit:  Oh, and I wasn't referring to you Blitz.  I meant others on this sub that just want to flat out ignore that question, because it suits them to completely just ignore it and continue the silly debate ad nauseum.
7059  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 26, 2014, 03:42:44 PM

Interesting tidbit for many here:

"They make the obvious prediction that the Bitcoin will be sold for under-market value"

Are you guys going to be flaming the Bitstamp owners now?

Can someone on this subforum answer this one simple question, instead of completely ignoring it:

Q: In a closed door auction, where no one outside of it will know what the selling price was, how can Bitstamp, you, or anyone else know what the winning price was?

And don't just reply "The selling price will get leaked out" or some silly crap, as we know hearsay FUD is completely unreliable.

<quick, run away and avoid answering this question.  Again.>   Roll Eyes

7060  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 26, 2014, 03:31:15 PM

We’re the backbone of the entire Bitcoin industry,” says Kodrič, 25, who’s wearing a black t-shirt with “Zero Excuses” in fluorescent green capital letters. “The wallet services, ATM machines, mining companies all rely on us. The price of Bitcoin is the de facto price on Bitstamp. We’re the to-go exchange.”

Oh, the hubris!  Can't wait for solid U.S.-based exchanges to knock 'em down a notch or two.

Good that they're visible though, makes it easier to find them.   Cheesy
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