I understand you perfectly. My biggest worry are the exchanges, It would be almost impossible to get money back if they suddenly decided to take it and run.
That's why I stay clear of ALL the exchanges and try get my BTC in person - I'd never trust a company with no address, proper contact information or reports of scamming. Luckily before I decided to trade with any of the exchanges I read up on them first otherwise I would be in the same boat as the OP  |
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This has unfortunately been happening a lot, both missing deposits and withdrawal. The best advice would be to stay away from BTC-e but you've already deposited, check with your bank and don't stop emailing support. Good luck |
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I'd be very careful with OKPAY there have been loads of people complaining of missing deposits and poor support. Unfortunately I don't know another way to get £ in to the exchanges though  |
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Why were they lifted? Because people stopped spamming the boards or something?
Perhaps the mods are just trying it out to see what affect it has on the forum, they could quite easily revert back to the old system are come up with another one. |
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This is the most user un-friendly forum software I have ever seen. I can't believe people actually post here. If you aren't waiting the allotted time between searches, you certainly can't post because you haven't met the appropriate "waiting time" for a new user. Then when you finally get posting privileges, type out your message, and then hit "Post", an error comes back saying you have to wait 360 seconds because it says something to the effect of you are posting too much and have to wait...
WTF?! Is it the general mentality of the admins that they don't want easy use of their forums? Because if that is the case, mission accomplished!!
If you don't like it don't use it. I think you'll find that most people agree these restrictions are necessary for the greater good of the forum. |
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I think the general policy is buyer beware - if someone's been scammed then they mustn't have been using the necessary due diligence to prevent being scammed in the first place.
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While I agree it can be annoying when ridiculous coins get released this is likely only to be temporary, eventually they will die away.
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I think the forum looks fine the way it is - as long as it's useable appearance is not really of major concern.
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Might I add for all the nearly paranoid concern about spammers I never saw any but I often see paid ads! Next, another suggestion, in jest: Start a DAC (distributed autonomous corporation) to go after the spammers and bots, let them not us feel the heat. Reminds me of when I boarded an airline to China and they actually sprayed the passengers with some chemical. Of course, when I arrived in China it was dirtier than any other place I had been.
'Sprayed the passengers with some chemical' - I'm surprised you actually found your way to the airport to board any flight and that you didn't get lost on the way. I think you'll find that the spraying of pesticide/insecticide is quite common practice and has nothing to do with how clean you presume the country you are travelling to actually is. |
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The problem with your system is that you assume sending funds (in any form) to Mt. Gox is risk free.
Gox is a black hole which has to implode at some point. That or they will get bought by a competing exchange. There is no guarantee you'll get your funds back. People have been waiting months for a transfer to go through, and Gox has been making it harder for people to even initiate a withdrawal for a while now. These are not good signs. Furthermore it is easy to see why this situation will not resolve itself easily: their unrealistic BTC prices (because of the trapped cash) mean the inflow of currency will have dried up almost entirely. Just a few arbitrage geniuses left, who haven't been following the forums very much.
I'd go along with that. These people who think they've spotted a fantastic opportunity to make a lot of money quickly using arbitrage - which most of them would likely not be able to explain - obviously can't be that bright otherwise they would put 2 and 2 together and first wonder why other people who have been in the game a lot longer are not doing it. |
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Sorry to hear about your bad experience, I've used virwox before a few times and never had an issue, I'll think twice now about using them again.
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To buy or sell BTC in person I would assume it would entail meeting someone in person and exchanging cash with BTC but then again I'm not sure?
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See the edit in the original post......
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shiny crap for Bitcoin. a must have
Oh no, you must have found a way to authenticate gold simply by looking at a picture online and have come to the conclusion it is not real. Damn I'm guttered I paid a lot for that piece of, well I'm not sure what it is now, and have just learnt it's worthless. Please enlighten me as to how you can tell? After physically holding the piece I was convinced it was real - I guess I must be stupid - how embarrassing! |
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1 thai baht is 3 cents do you realize that?
Just for clarification purposes, this 'baht' in addition to being a very small unit of currency, is also term they use for weighting gold in Thailand. As the poster mentioned its 15 grams. which is very close to 1/2 oz Right now 1 oz of gold is worth about 1260 usd, so half is 630 usd. 1 THB = 33 USD So 630 x 33 = 20790 THB so the posters asking price is fair assuming its real gold. do you mean "weighing gold" or "weighted gold"? Thai gold is 22 carat. so 91.67% gold No Thai Gold is 96.5% pure - 23 carat. Just because the bar says 96.5% doesn't mean it's true  Yes you're right but if you buy gold from a legitimate gold shop in Thailand it is what it is. I advertise a piece of gold for sale and the responses unfortunately have been as expected - I find this quite concerning for the future of Bitcoin. Just because some people try to scam doesn't mean that every one is the same. At the end of the day it's a tiny piece of gold - OK I could sell it and not ship and be up $ - 1 time. Or I could sell it and provide great customer service generating repeat business and a stable long term revenue stream. I know which I'd prefer....... |
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1 thai baht is 3 cents do you realize that?
Just for clarification purposes, this 'baht' in addition to being a very small unit of currency, is also term they use for weighting gold in Thailand. As the poster mentioned its 15 grams. which is very close to 1/2 oz Right now 1 oz of gold is worth about 1260 usd, so half is 630 usd. 1 THB = 33 USD So 630 x 33 = 20790 THB so the posters asking price is fair assuming its real gold. do you mean "weighing gold" or "weighted gold"? Thai gold is 22 carat. so 91.67% gold No Thai Gold is 96.5% pure - 23 carat. |
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you're better off posting something like this in your respected country forum here. tracking etc will be a lot easier to manage within the same country. also a lot of customs will confiscate metals. i know ive seen this a few times when looking into mailing things to myself.
Well not really someone in Thailand could just buy this bar themselves direct, no need to pay a small markup. I've shipped silver to the UK before with no issues just mark the item as gift. your choice. on this forum selling anything requires escrow most the time. even between two trusted parties. That doesn't make sense, no one would buy from with Thailand so your idea is shocking. |
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you're better off posting something like this in your respected country forum here. tracking etc will be a lot easier to manage within the same country. also a lot of customs will confiscate metals. i know ive seen this a few times when looking into mailing things to myself.
Well not really someone in Thailand could just buy this bar themselves direct, no need to pay a small markup. I've shipped silver to the UK before with no issues just mark the item as gift. |
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Possibly yes. However I am the one selling the gold and these are my terms. I don't like the idea of shipping something to someone without having the money on hand, that's generally how business works. You order something online, pay your money and then the goods are delivered.
Yes, but this is Bitcoin. Most online retailers use a reversible payment system. If your gold is fake or you just don't send it, the buyer loses their money and there's not much they can do about it. Agreed, but if the buyer claims the gold is fake or claims they didn't receive it there's not much I could do about that aswell. Perhaps they didn't receive it. Perhaps it is fake ........ you understand yet? Nobody is going to take this deal. I'll do the same deal and do it through escrow. I can walk down the road and buy a baht of gold today and will sell for same price as you, but escrow it. Why won't you? Quite simply I don't want to take any risk. At the end of the day I had a baht of gold lying around and thought I'd put it on here to see response. Also if you check my signature it is the same as yours - getting in to a long drawn out conversation about escrow can only benefits us both wouldn't you say? You don't want to take any risk, but you want to load 100% of risk onto buyer. Just pointing out it will never work. If you can't see that, fine. Walk into a gold shop and sell it there I wasn't banking on someone buying it was just an idea to make $10 profit on a sale. No point selling it here as I could only get thai prices for it so would rather hang on to it. I know where you're coming from, I'm not daft, I had nothing better to do so it was worth a shot and someone still may buy it, once I've sold one it would be easier to sell more. |
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Possibly yes. However I am the one selling the gold and these are my terms. I don't like the idea of shipping something to someone without having the money on hand, that's generally how business works. You order something online, pay your money and then the goods are delivered.
Yes, but this is Bitcoin. Most online retailers use a reversible payment system. If your gold is fake or you just don't send it, the buyer loses their money and there's not much they can do about it. Agreed, but if the buyer claims the gold is fake or claims they didn't receive it there's not much I could do about that aswell. Perhaps they didn't receive it. Perhaps it is fake ........ you understand yet? Nobody is going to take this deal. I'll do the same deal and do it through escrow. I can walk down the road and buy a baht of gold today and will sell for same price as you, but escrow it. Why won't you? Quite simply I don't want to take any risk. At the end of the day I had a baht of gold lying around and thought I'd put it on here to see response. Also if you check my signature it is the same as yours - getting in to a long drawn out conversation about escrow can only benefits us both wouldn't you say? |
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