You assume a lot of things, and so far your track record isn't that great...
I'm also assuming that you will not have 100% uptime with over 12 S3s  Edit: Usually my assumptions are based on the past facts, not on guesses. |
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Didn't even see that. I assumed that Batch 1 will stat before 15. But the misleading is still there. The S3 will not hash on 14 September. |
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As usual you are misleading. You are assuming that you will start hashing with all S3s on 14.09 while the SP31 starts hashing on 20.10. That is wrong and your whole calculations are way off. SP-Tech never shipped first batch after 15th of the month. |
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If the difficulty will be just a bit better than in your projections then the SP31 is clearly a winner. I can't help noticing that after the so praised ROI the S3 is doing close to nothing, while the SP31 is still doing something. Also I can lower the power efficiency down to 0.58W/GH and doing that will help me earn more money after difficulty reaches 70 billion so getting ROI will be faster than in your projection.
You are forgetting to add in the hosting costs $400/month Not even in Advania I'm not paying $400/month. My October SP31 will be hosted with jtoomim where I will pay ~$240/month. |
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Just found about http://www.rigwarz.com/ My only know-how comes from the forum, but it seems that I found an unbiased opinion about the SP30. It seems that it's doing very good besides all the trolls whining. Only 2 days ROI difference between S3 and SP30. Makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside. Edit: Well if you add the 12 PSU cost I think that the SP30 might achieve ROI just a little faster than the S3s. Math is nice! Crypto is uber! RigWarz clearly says .67 while you say .578. Your trickery, slant and bullshit at every turn is boring. Read 10x time the below highlighted part: so anybody have any information about underclocking and extending the sp30 lifetime in light of the giant difficulty increases?
Max voltage 0.67 (can't set it lower from the web GUI) and I'm getting 3.62Th/s and 0.58W/GH! So 0.58W/Gh is by underclocking, not normal operation. Tard. S3+ ROI: 180 days
SP31 ROI: 360 days If the difficulty will be just a bit better than in your projections then the SP31 is clearly a winner. I can't help noticing that after the so praised ROI the S3 is doing close to nothing, while the SP31 is still doing something. Also I can lower the power efficiency down to 0.58W/GH and doing that will help me earn more money after difficulty reaches 70 billion so getting ROI will be faster than in your projection. |
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Just found about http://www.rigwarz.com/ My only know-how comes from the forum, but it seems that I found an unbiased opinion about the SP30. It seems that it's doing very good besides all the trolls whining. Only 2 days ROI difference between S3 and SP30. Makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside. Edit: Well if you add the 12 PSU cost I think that the SP30 might achieve ROI just a little faster than the S3s. Math is nice! Crypto is uber! |
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Who would ever believe RoadStress' numbers? He has been in the KnC thread with negative garbage far more than I've been here and he slants everything in every possible way into a biased POV. I totally don't believe his findings.
However, I don't say his assertion is not factual. Maybe someone who knows how to take decent measurements and without a Spondoolies dick to suck, might come to the same conclusion. That would be worth learning about.
Check my post history. I have praised KnC last autumn. I have opposed Avenger many times, but the situation was different. Late 2013 KnC was king same as Avalon was in early 2013. In 2014 situation has changed. I chose to refund my Neptune pre-order and with the money spent on 3Th/s hardware I got 9Th/s from Spondoolies Tech. It took more than 3 weeks to get a refund from KnC and around 50 e-mails sent to their support team. Yes KnC sucks and everyone should know this. While Neptunes are bursting into flames my SP30 bundle is happily hashing with 3x more hashpower. 0.578W/Gh But +18.5 BTC for RoadStress The money were donated, check GB OP. |
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so anybody have any information about underclocking and extending the sp30 lifetime in light of the giant difficulty increases?
Max voltage 0.67 (can't set it lower from the web GUI) and I'm getting 3.62Th/s and 0.58W/GH! Once I figure out how to navigate and edit the "mg_custom_mode" file will post again about this. |
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Local Shares: Total: 125 (Orphan: 14, Dead: 3) Is that a normal orphan rate? Global reject is ~ 15% This is 13.6% - so i would say it is normal. Variance can give you probably lower but always have a look at global. I know that having a low ping helps, but I don't expect every p2pool miner to obey this rule so that's why I wanted to see if it's normal or not but not compared to the global reject. Besides having a 0ms ping is there anything that I can do about this? |
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Thanks, added SP10, will ask in the spondoolies thread about 30.
Don't own SP30 but I watch closely the SP thread and I know people with SP30 that mine with P2Pool without issues. They mine here: http://is.centralcavern.uk:9332/static/Local Shares: Total: 125 (Orphan: 14, Dead: 3) Is that a normal orphan rate? |
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Edit:
We're honoring the 250 machines price point although less than 200 were actually paid.
I hope enough people see this. I won't praise SP-Tech for this because people trolls will say I am biased, but this should be remembered. |
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searched but found nothing about underclocking the sp30. there was only a conversation about underclocking for running it on 110V circuits.
so anybody have any information about underclocking and extending the sp30 lifetime in light of the giant difficulty increases?
I plan to try it in the next day(s). |
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I'll give 50BTC to anybody who can give me an S3 back in 2011. So you not understand the importance of time sensitivity?
Of course I understand the importance of time sensitivity. I would pay 50BTC for an S3 back in early 2013, but that's not important. I'm just amazed that people are ready to pay 1BTC for something that was available for order from stock just a few days ago for 0.66 BTC. |
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So there will definitely be another difficulty rise before our SP30's ship :*(
No it won't! SP30 will ship next week. |
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Yeah, that was the point; "5.4". Another pre-order promising to be delivered on time and if everything goes well, it might make ROI. The pre-order aspect of it, plus the fact that the world is beginning to boycott Israeli products - makes the spoondoolie miners your selling not as appealing as people thought they were just a few months back!
September batch is sold-out. Can't say the same about the tubes... That reminds me of when hashfast was selling out batches after their shitstorm began. Of course you can't say the tubes are sold out because there is practically unlimited supply. How can you still advertise sp30s ($0.94/gh) when they are now almost twice as expensive as the AM tube/bitmain s3? (~$0.5/gh) You might as well advertise for BFL if you don't care about a good deal. Will you still advertise for them when they fail to meet their "fixed" specs in october and give out grossly inadequate compensation to all earlier batches? Well since you didn't have a problem last year while AM was selling overpriced hardware I don't have a problem either now. People are free to buy whatever they like. As for compensation at least there will be one. Looking at the other manufacturers I am happy to be in the SP-Tech ship right now. On time delivery and compensation for the smaller speed should be a dream come true considering all the scams and the lies. |
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Aslo there are no news about compensation they promised 3 weeks ago. I, also cannot understand why there is such a big deal with announcing this important for us information. Do they have some sort of financial difficulties which make them so undecisive what kind of compensation package they shuld offer to us, so they postpone it as long as they can?
Compensation was promised for October so any news will be just news and nothing else. |
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Can someone from Spondoolies (Zvi?) or an SP30 owner confirm or deny that the SP30 works well with p2pool please.
I can confirm that there are no issues with running SP30 on p2pool Edit: Happy 300 pages Spondoolies Tech!  |
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I still think the Spondoolies-Tech is one of the best bitcoin miner producers right now so I wouldn't like them to dissapoint me to exploit my trust by acting in KNC style.
They won't. Well, at 70-100/day since July 28 they should have been able to produce 1470-2100 machines IF working 7 days a week or 1050-1600 machines if working 5 days a week. Are all these already sent/in the field? I have a feeling that the delivery week is shorter. Around 3-4 days. This is just a personal thought. |
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I still think the Spondoolies-Tech is one of the best bitcoin miner producers right now so I wouldn't like them to dissapoint me to exploit my trust by acting in KNC style.
They won't. |
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