You didn't get it. Having someone teach you how to setup a cold wallet isn't the equivalent of actually using those wallets. It means that the newbie can learn and he can do it by himself at home. If you are recommending an wallet, you can also tell him to protect his future private keys/wallet like real money. Once the newbies knows all the process of setting up a cold wallet he can do it for an infinite times.

Ok first statement has no sense. Guy never stated that he knows more about AM than AM's CEO. No logic. He just stated what AM's CEO told him. Nothing more.

Also I am imagining that a meeting between 2 CEOs is a bit different than a 2 regular persons meeting (like you and me) so that's why you don't get this thing about all the sensitive info. You should start thinking outside of your own box of thoughts and admit that not everyone is like you.


So you gave me as examples some future predictions and you are comparing them to statements about past and present FACTS! You are either trying to mislead again or your  personal logic doesn't let you see that you are comparing apples with oranges. In your own little box of thoughts you think that Guy is wrong about some FACTS just because he was wrong on some future predictions which may or may not come true.

When should the shareholders expect the next financial report? That should clear things up.

E-mail support@, but don't expect an instant reply.

I'm not believing anything BA says at this point.

Welcome. Not the best post, but at least you tried 

Are you in the August or September batch?

But if you pay by card you will need to provide some personal documents to the scammers and I wouldn't advise anyone to do it.

Never blamed the DC for not having cables. I was just trying to find a backup plan/solution for the missing cable not provided by the manufacturer


Hashing steady and stable!

Then it's a matter of who we trust. You trust FC. I trust Guy. I am sure that he doesn't want to build a career in bitcoin mining based on lies and on false rumors just like others. He plans to be in this business for a long time and his actions towards his customers prove my point. Don't mistake him with scammer Josh Zerlan or with redbull boy Joshua Zipkin who has no problem stealing money from old army veterans. Care to elaborate the countless times when he was wrong? And don't give me the SP30 specs.

Guess we will have to wait to see how will this unfold, but the reason that I don't believe FC is because he also stated that the self mining started mid-july, but there is no evidence for that except that they have 200Th/s on BTCGuild. No dividends, no official speed, nothing.


First of all I wasn't aware that BFL had an affiliate program. Second of all I don't intend to support hardware that is being shipped 13 months later and that is bad quality. I think that being fair and trying to recommend good products/services has more returns than trying to make a quick buck while screwing people.

I see no problem in earning some money by supporting a good product. You are earning money too in form of dividends when you are supporting AM's products so it's the same thing. Except that people can see that I am affiliated to a company, while you don't seem to be affiliated to any company to a newbie when in fact you are an AM shareholder so from my point of view I am being more fair than you. When your signature will be "AM shareholder" then we will be equals regarding products/companies affiliation.

Looks like bare Jupiters just like in KnC's DC.

Care to share where are you hosting them? A DC should have all sort of cables around. I think they are required by their internal rules for safety reasons.

Well you have a weird controller board then and I'm out of troubleshooting questions. I think you will need to wait a few more hours for more people to read this and they will help you.

Did you buy this miner from someone or you have it directly from KnC and it suddenly stopped working?

It's bad, but give it time to get some speed maybe? 1-2 mins?

Like anyone cares about his failed predictions...

You didn't get it. When he sold 2kBTC last year the price went to the moon. I want to repeat the same experience this year too.


A guy that bought a castle with money from bitcoin.

You haven't answered to my question. Try to power the cubes one by one to see if you have a defective one. If all cubes are working then try to power 2 cubes with different power supplies. Then try the same thing with the other 2 cubes. Give report here afterwards.

Have you tried to power the cubes one by one to see if there is an issue with any of them?

Sure go for Electrum, but not bitcoin qt! Also I think that newbies don't need cold storage and if they have big amounts invested in bitcoin they can surely take the time to learn about the whole process or at least have someone teach them how to do it.

Well neither you or any of the shareholder don't know for sure if I am wrong or not so you don't know that I am making absurd assumptions or not until you see exactly for how much profit they sell the chips. As for baseless, well they aren't baseless. I am basing my assumption on what Guy said and also on the lack of dividends/information/other projects. A 28nm mask+chips don't cost 10M$.


I told you in the past that I am not selling anything. I am just supporting their hardware. Having an affiliate link and praising their quality hardware isn't selling.

Ok got it. Thanks.

I will donate to you a fraction of a bitcoin if you put him behind bars just to show to the tard that people ARE ready and ARE actually using fractionated coins.