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1621  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: January 18, 2014, 09:18:02 PM
Everytime I view the main Devtome page I get the impression that something didn't load correctly or something from the site is missing or possibly not completed. Would it be possible to spruce the front page up a little bit? I suggest the following...


1. Move the most recent article section to another page or below the topics section.

2. Have a nice big Devcoin/Devtome logo that has the slogan for Devcoin incorporated into it.

3. Have a featured article above or below the logo instead of the long string of recent ones.

4. Have "earn free Devcoins" etc hovering around the logo so that it is impossible to miss.

5. Work some type of link above or below the logo that monetizes the front page in a better fashion.


I am not saying that it should look like the main Wikipedia page, it just needs a little more pop.


Bittzy78




1622  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: January 18, 2014, 04:43:19 PM

It is interesting that ebay is going to allow digital currency on their U.K. site in February but not on the U.S. one.... that is a step in the right direction but still very annoying. If anyone on the forum is from the U.K. and planning on selling Devcoins, maybe something can be worked out to get more listings up and going for Devcoin in Feb.


I had all of my Devcoin listings canceled on ebay on the U.S. site a few days ago.


http://www.coindesk.com/ebay-uk-virtual-currency-february/


This has been a common problem for me in the uk . i have been selling loads of devcoin over the past few months and that is all i sell on ebay.

this is ebays uk response to digital currency.

Please know that per our recent policy update, Virtual currency (i.e. Bitcoin and Litecoin), whether digitally or physically delivered cannot be listed in Auction-style and Buy-It-Now listing formats. eBay is opening a Virtual Currency category to allow the sale of virtual currency in Classified Ads format on February 10, 2014. We request that you do not list these items until that date. Alternatively, you may list your item on the eBay.com site in the Coins & Paper Money>Virtual Currency Category in Classified Ad format.
 
i am up for doing all i can for devcoin on the uk site once i am allowed to list on the 10th feb.
all my adds have been removed now but i still have one remaining on the US site that seems to have been overlooked and has been ticking along steadyly introducing people at 500 dvc and fetching $1.99

i have also been doing some creative marketing on ebay to get out of the coin section to avoid detection and still introduce people to devcoin by advertizing mobile phone top up vouchers , explaining i can also email the code to them if they need it faster than a bitcoin transaction.
 i also include a free offer of 500 devcoin and free digital wallet to sample in the advert.

Top up voucher cades are are a form of digital currency that can be exchanged for any other currency, and i am very interested in creating a website for the uk pay as you go phone top up market as i mentioned in this thead a few days ago when i made contact with melodie who acceps bitcoin and devcoin as payment for website building and coding.

I have asked kissmyweb to put this project on the back burner while i research and  see what interest i can drum up to raise funds to pay for such a trading platform working on BTCC/top up codes.

I want to somehow incorporate devcoin.  

As devcoin is the developers coin it could and should be used to develop anything.

devcoin is now a writercoin because of the assciation with the devtome wiki
It could also be a phonecoin if associated with a new website dedicated to trading airtime on the uk telecomunications network.
none of the uk networks accept cryptocurrencys yet .
Most of there customers use pay as you go phones because they do not have a bank account.
I see a masive gap in the market and an oppertunity that needs to be filled .
like a virtual atm  people can obtain bitcoin/devcoin by simply purchasing a top up code from any store and forward it to the website for exchange.

i am not sure how the bountys work really and thats not my motivation , i have been in touch with the large distributors of airtime to enquire about buying airtime at wholesale prices and the door is slamed tight as the whole network is owned by one company and is monoplised to protect all the payment processers and retailers commisions down the chain .

the end users themselves will sell a top up voucher cheaper than the producers that create them !

many distributors have their own sim card produced,they make huge commisions from the network providor every time the sim card it toped up with airtime . i propose devcoin somehow develops its own simcard to a real income can be generated and all its members get to share in the discounts as well undercutting the man thats ripping us all off.  

Been looking at cryptostocks and bitcoinstarter but not sure how succefull these sites are at attracting investors.

I have a feeling there will probably be an explosion of crypto listings on Feb 10th in the U.K. because this update to their policy is making the rounds. One easy way to sell them would be to require customers to make an account on Vircurex and send them a coupon code for the amount of Devcoins. It is a bit crude but it does show the coupon code number (you can't make up the number yourself) and whether or not it has been redeemed. I did a test coupon generation and transfer and it worked instantly.

You could track this by putting the coupon code number in the notes below the buyers link on All Selling > Sold.

I take it this is your listing...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/500-Devcoin-Digital-Cryptocurrency-cheaper-than-Bitcoin-Litecoin-Peercoin-ect-/191036400314?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item2c7aa822ba
1623  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: January 18, 2014, 05:06:04 AM

Would anyone be interested in running a signature ad campaign for devcoin here on the forums?  That might make devcoin more well-known.
Yeah I would be interested in making devcoin popular, what all would I need to do though?

well you can't say anything on "FB" because the content nazis immediately block any devtome.com or devcoin.org address......


They don't block this one...

http://www.moneyandpotatoes.com/freelance-writer-earn-some-extra-money-with-devtome/


It probably ended up being a little long and confusing but it could get people interested. The social buttons are at the bottom of the article.
1624  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: January 18, 2014, 01:14:31 AM

It is interesting that ebay is going to allow digital currency on their U.K. site in February but not on the U.S. one.... that is a step in the right direction but still very annoying. If anyone on the forum is from the U.K. and planning on selling Devcoins, maybe something can be worked out to get more listings up and going for Devcoin in Feb.


I had all of my Devcoin listings canceled on ebay on the U.S. site a few days ago.


http://www.coindesk.com/ebay-uk-virtual-currency-february/
1625  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: January 17, 2014, 10:10:45 PM
New update!  http://dvc4giftcards.us/ now offers $50 eStarbucks cards and Netflix 12-month codes.

For some reason I can never get that site to come up for me when I click on the link.

Although, I used to be able to look at it.
1626  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: January 17, 2014, 09:04:10 PM
The only problem that is holding me back from attempting to make these types of sites is the customer service portion and upkeep. There is just too much legally that could be an issue with exchanges, paypal to crypto, etc. sites. It may not be a thing for most people, but for me it just is a little too much.
Yeah I had noticed not many coins had these types of sites available to them.
-AM

I know in the United States you can pretty much do as you wish with regular gift cards (Amazon, Walmart etc)  all day long on your website, mainly because they aren't viewed as cash. It all changes if you try and sell or exchange those credit card gift cards. The government considers those cash and if you are not careful, you could be considered an accessory to money laundering. I am pretty sure it would be the same thing if you used Paypal or other similar sites.

It could end up being a slippery slope to attempt such a site.
1627  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: January 17, 2014, 05:22:32 PM
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I'd like to propose a bounty for a devcoin auction site.

How many shares would be appropriate, based on difficulty?

I'd propose 45 shares, because the animation was around that as well.

Any objections or changes?

If someone can pull that off they might also need an ongoing bounty for monthly upkeep and maintenance of the site.
1628  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: January 17, 2014, 05:19:50 PM
It's time for another DVC press release Smiley

Please PM me with any ideas you might have re what should be mentioned in the upcoming press release.

Is the new windows QT wallet up yet on the website? Can someone please give me the download link?

I was thinking of focussing this press release on the new windows QT wallet and the redesign of the Devcoin.org website Smiley

Have we got press releases earlier? a link please Smiley


The last one was in early December..

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/devcoin-dvc-value-increases-300-073504074.html

and also this one...

http://marketersmedia.com/devcoin-dvc-at-its-highest-dollar-value-yet-continues-to-make-the-world-a-better-place/29226
1629  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: January 17, 2014, 12:48:55 PM
I've been making these points since I learned of devcoin. If someone assesses dvc -> btc -> $ payout at greater/equal what they think their work is worth they'll sell. If that worth is 'low' then the price will be in line, whatever anyone else's self-assessed worth may be. DVC like any other means of compensation should be paid in line with work done, value.
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Optimisation - market price acts as a good guide. Max per round pay was recently cut from 85 to 50 (I think mostly b/c the rating methodology now bounds from 0.5 to 1.5 rather than an absolute new appraisal). Selling is obviously everyone's prerogative but writers in particular need to be honest with themselves. How many people buy or have bought dvc to support devtome specifically? It's the writers who should be building and supporting devtome, so any subsidy should be from a devtome pot.

This could be done by giving devtome a fixed % of total generation. Then subsidy and any resolutions are forced upon those to who it should be directed. Another way (simplified) is to just cut the max-per-round until a level reached where no writers submit, then raise it a bit. I'd be fascinated to know how many submit b/c they want to share with the world vs how many know it's overpaid and act likewise. There's overlap there but just making a point.

My opinion is that devtome shouldn't pay at all, aside from perhaps a token sum for the effort to format & deal with syntax etc - compensation tied 100% to prospective revenue or simply for recognition and creation's sake. I think there'd be completely different quality, collaboration and marketing. Next best would be if developers get 1 share per round, writers should get the same. It cuts payments but as total shares would be lower not that much if at all for most. I'd be interested to hear why writing is worth more than programming, or software development, or graphic design etc. If it's just a marketing tool then (1) is it working? (2) why are those paying for it everybody except those benefiting?
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Leadership - agreed. Regardless of aspirations to total decentralisation that's just not workable. Bitcoin is basically managed by major holders and miners. Devcoin opens that to everyone with a decent contribution, effectively a mining-for-creation network. Achieving that requires a system, decisions and leadership - but ones that are always accountable because at the end of the day we could all just sell and log off.

I don't know if there are other goals. There's an inevitable conflict of interest in change. Writers don't generally want to change the status quo because it's a gravy train, others want change because without it everything's undermined and there won't even be a gravy train. I understand that current winners want to ride this for as long as possible (and I also understand that it's the 'system' so just availing oneself of the system isn't personally blameworthy) but as someone who ultimately pays for it (like every other dvc buyer, owner, earner, trader) it hugely bothers me. I would say exactly the same thing if the situation was with regards to programmers or artists or whatever, rather than writers.

People need to be honest with themselves. I'd like to contact some OS projects and people about devcoin. But I know one of the first things they're going to ask is how we account for and justify relative payouts - and I don't have a good answer. I appreciate that decisions taken are gradual and considered, but as I've said before if something isn't working then it should be changed. Massively changed.

These are all good points.

I'm thinking that if the purpose for large devtome subsidy was to try and increase awareness of devcoins, then it has to have had a positive effect (indirectly) on the adwords revenue...but is that the case? What about the number of writers? According to the writer stats, the current price increase hasn't brought with it a huge surge of writers...it's been growing at a rate of around 5-10 new writers per round since round 22. I can probably whip up a graph to show this if anyone wants to see it, but the numbers are there (http://dvccountdown.blisteringdevelopers.com/devtome just search with blank username). That's actually a bit surprising, and tells me the increase in share value doesn't necessarily correspond with more writers to bring its price back down.

The idea that just hit me (and has been mulling in the back of my mind for a while), was the fact that general open source developers are being paid 1 share per round if they maintain approx 10 hours of work a week. At the moment, devtome pays per hour with no cap. If you can output 168 hours of writing a week, even with a cap per round, you still get 168 hours worth of pay over time. An OS developer doing the same only gets paid for the first 10 hours. That's not a leak, that's a hole in the boat. Is the content worth it? I can't find advertising revenue data, all I can find is this link https://github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity/blob/master/devtome_advertising_revenue.csv and it doesn't make much sense to me (plus it's two months old), so it's hard to say. I don't think we should value writers any less than developers (everyone will say their's is the hardest Smiley ), but to be fair, the same should apply in reverse. If a writer is willing to commit 10 hours a week of content to devtome, then perhaps they should go on a devtome share list? There can still be bounties and what not for specific work the project needs doing, just like there are with developing, and it would be a much fairer system. This way, to be a devtome contributor would be purely about being rewarded for generally creating freely available work at your own pace. Writers - is that a bad thing? What are your opinions on this? This may directly work against the purpose of the high devtome payouts, but the question is - was it working?

The simple fact is whether developing or writing, people are putting up their time and creative output for the whole world to enjoy for free. I do feel they should be rewarded equally. Bounties will always be there for those who want try to earn more, if they have the time, but fluffing out sentences just to increase word counts shouldn't even be an option (Not all, but I've seen more than a few articles do this).

First Isn't the goal of Devcoin to build its value based on peoples' work ? Devcoin is about paying anyone who put time in it.

That depends on whether you talk to a developer or a writer. The official devcoin line is: "Devcoin is an ethically inspired project based on the BitCoin crypto-currency and created to help fund open source projects created by writers and software developers." The goal is to support open source projects. One way to increase the value of a devcoin for speculation purposes is to build valuable work, but that's not necessarily the goal of the project. Pay is not in question, the rate of pay, is.

Also devtome is on of the best way to attract more people to Devcoin (work required/efficieny).

Based on what metric? How does someone reading about the most popular jazz albums in the 1960s in Minnesota increase awareness of devcoins? The writer might now know about it, but what about the reader? It's not immediately obvious that devcoins even exist from looking at a random article in devtome.

A small percentage of people will be interested to find out what site they landed on and what that green "D" is all about on their upper left. If they investigate further, an even smaller percentage of people will end up writing for Devtome.
1630  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: January 17, 2014, 12:42:38 PM

In regards to generating revenue, increasing the exposure of devcoin, and keeping it circulating in an economy, we need to be proactive and create our own solutions. One of the simplest revenue generating methods is to host an auction site.

There are open source auction packages such as WeBid http://sourceforge.net/projects/simpleauction/ and Xataface http://apps.weblite.ca/index.php?-action=view&-table=packages&package_id=1 that would allow us to make sellers out of anyone, and earn a percentage of each sale. It would also allow another entry point for newcomers that don't have any cryptocurrency.

In addition to accepting devcoins, it could accept other currencies, even fiat, and then buy devcoin with the income. With a decent advertising PR campaign - it could be the auction site that supports creative work. We talk about supporting artists, when and if a system is found that will enable that, well why not an auction site, and let the market determine the artists products worth?

If an auction site was to be considered, in addition to sellers there could be a 'Devcoin Store' that provides unique items, is operated by devcoin, with all proceeds going back into the community. Advertising could be on devtome to start.

I'd like to propose a bounty for a devcoin auction site.



That raises an interesting question. Is Devtome permanently regulated to anonymous ads status in order to avoid prying taxation eyes? I am leaning towards yes because otherwise, Devtome would probably have to register as a corporation and pay its taxes as a for profit entity. There might be ways to get creative with it (such as charging Devcoins for page sponsorship) but it will probably keep the wiki from ever earning the big bucks.

 

1631  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: January 17, 2014, 05:06:36 AM
Hi,
I was wondering why DVC value is going down so much, now very close to DOGE.

No telling why..

You could have a penny stock company worth $50,000,000 with only 2.5 million shares outstanding lose half its value in a matter of days, for no reason other than pure speculation.

 This is a cryptocurrency and is only backed by the good graces of the people that hold the currency, not a company with hard assets. If people think it is worth more than the current price, it will go back up. If people think it is worth less than the current price, it will continue to go down.

The main thing to remember is, the market is always right, even if people think it is wrong.

There is nothing to prevent Devcoin from being in the $0.01 to $0.05 range in the future as long as the Devcoin economy grows...

Worrying about the daily up and down prices will only give you an ulcer. Smiley

As a side note Dogecoin has a trading volume that microcap companies dream of. I just checked on Crypsy and the Volume for DOGE/BTC is 571 BTC  (roughly $450,000) and DODE/LTC is 1833 LTC (roughly $40,000)... Egads Man!!!!

Pretty much this.

Dogecoin has some pretty good marketing for what it is. I'm seeing it mentioned in reddit a lot.

So you guys think if we could all get devcoin more popular and have it mentioned on more social sites that the value will rise?
-AM

I think that is a 100% guarantee.

Who doesn't have $50 laying around the house available to use for cryptocurrency speculation? People will buy low  in blocks of 10k, 25k or 50k and hope it goes to a dime. Lots of folks have read the news on Bitcoin and know it started out in the pennies.

I am a firm believer that the cryptocurrency landscape will be vastly different in December than it is now in January.

Bittzy78
1632  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: January 17, 2014, 04:52:46 AM
When will devtome be forced to buy devcoins to supply the dumpers?

Place your orders low, my man. And then wait for them to run out of content. Smiley
i think i have enough content just bouncing around in my head to keep them from running out.... and i'm sure there are many more like me...... Devcoins have a purpose and a community behind them.... there are "becauseicancoins" appearing (and disappearing) constantly that do not.....

interesting you should think a growing community would run out of content.... maybe you hope it will, and you can cash in on a theoretical collapse?

i think the idea of using Devcoin to pay people for their ideas is good. it fosters creativity and competition.

Running out of content to write about on Devtome will be nearly impossible. There are a couple thousand years of human history that people can pull article information from. Heck, you could write forever just on the 20th century.  

People have very successful blogs that are years old just on the topic of personal finance.

Can you imagine a time in the near future where 150- 200 people contribute content to the Wiki every round? There might even come a time when the content doubles every 3 - 4 months.
1633  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: January 16, 2014, 06:03:50 PM
I say we host the blockchain on devcoin.org so users won't have to wait.

I absolutely agree. There should be a section dedicated to what the blockchain is and how it works along with a simple interface for people to enter their wallet address or transaction #.

The Devcoin.org website is really starting to come together but it really should be a one stop shop for all things Devcoin...

If a Blockchain was added along with a page for the media (and a Devcoin point-of-contact) and possibly a future blog.. People could know what Devcoin is and what it is about, all on one website.

It might be interesting to have a page that lists every time Devcoin has been mentioned in the media as well.

~2 cents~

 Smiley
1634  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: January 16, 2014, 03:10:28 PM
Hi,
I was wondering why DVC value is going down so much, now very close to DOGE.

No telling why..

You could have a penny stock company worth $50,000,000 with only 2.5 million shares outstanding lose half its value in a matter of days, for no reason other than pure speculation.

 This is a cryptocurrency and is only backed by the good graces of the people that hold the currency, not a company with hard assets. If people think it is worth more than the current price, it will go back up. If people think it is worth less than the current price, it will continue to go down.

The main thing to remember is, the market is always right, even if people think it is wrong.

There is nothing to prevent Devcoin from being in the $0.01 to $0.05 range in the future as long as the Devcoin economy grows...

Worrying about the daily up and down prices will only give you an ulcer. Smiley

As a side note Dogecoin has a trading volume that microcap companies dream of. I just checked on Crypsy and the Volume for DOGE/BTC is 571 BTC  (roughly $450,000) and DODE/LTC is 1833 LTC (roughly $40,000)... Egads Man!!!!


Bittzy78
1635  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: January 16, 2014, 12:39:34 PM
Devtome - issue raised on photographs. Any photos incorporated into articles have to be your own, or licenced under creative commons or similar. There are plenty of sites with repositories of usable images. Most other photos (like Getty images) will be subject to copyright so can't be simply uploaded to a file hosting site and embedded into devtome.


I wrote an article on my blog dealing with using free images etc.

http://www.moneyandpotatoes.com/webmaster-links-free-stock-images-useful-tools-and-much-more/

Basically, Compfight has one of the most extensive searches of images out there but requires attribution.

If you use images from Pixabay, they don't require attribution but nobody will know you got the image from Pixabay unless you put it at the bottom of any article where you use the images.
1636  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: January 16, 2014, 02:13:49 AM
i thought this was an interesting article... http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=devcoin_future_value
one point i would make about the proliferation of altcoins (or currently an explosion) is, that eventually the "vaporcoins", "becauseicandoitcoins" , and "scamcoins" will go away, because they really don't have anybody using them for much more than scoring a few quick bitcoins or dollars and disappearing. the Cryptos left standing will probably be much better off, because they have communities behind them, and so will be seen (even by the mainstream financial community) to be more stable, and therefore worth more. just my 0.02DVC.....

At least we know they are pretty much here to stay.

I think that we will see the day when people can mine, hoard, steal and sell alt-coins while playing some massive online video game. It might not really be around now but, you know that someone is thinking about starting one.
1637  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: January 15, 2014, 12:47:13 PM
Yeah, I think I could see my idea sliding down the wall after I read it a couple of times. I have tons of ideas all of the time, some of them are decent ones but most of them are below average.   Cheesy
Smiley Ideas are good, I think through the same sort of things.

Basically, if a Devcoin core project was created and managed to stabilise the price relative to say dollars, that project has just become a bank. That means you have a Devcoin central bank fixing its exchange rate. Whether that's a good idea isn't even the same question as whether it's possible.

Instead of that (and this is one reason Devcoin is interesting) what if the backing is stuff? Open source development, creative commons repositories, people and their time. That creates an equity base and also a more equitable way for anybody to get involved. The reserve you refer to could in effect be the stuff that Devcoin is and will facilitate and fund. If a point can be reached where enough people and organisations rely on dvc to facilitate their work (they genuinely perceive it as earnings), and enough others support that work and progress (they genuinely perceive it as worthwhile and necessary), then you have inbuilt reserves and collateral in the simple mechanics of the currency. Any growth of a devcoin economy, dvc/fiat market, trade, stability will develop with that evolution.


That was an interesting and well thought out response.

I happen to think the Devcoin economy will be a whole lot more interesting towards the end of this year compared to what it is now.  Smiley
1638  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: January 15, 2014, 10:03:01 AM
I was clicking around on some of the other alt-coin threads and had an idea.


What if there was a kind of strategic Devcoin reserve of the top 5 or so alt coins? The reserve could be tapped to stabalize the price of Devcoin when it doesn't seem to be holding its value. If the reserve ended up having a substantial value, it could help stabilize the price of Devcoin on the exchanges just by everyone knowing of its existence, even if it was never used.

One of the admins could be the reserve chairman and in charge of spending the coins but all of the other admins would have a vote  if any of the reserve gets used. The vote could occur once or twice a month (or as needed) with more than 50% of the admins agreeing that it needs to be tapped before any spending happens. It could be mainly funded by donations and all of the coins values updated on a regular basis for everyone to see.

It might provide a way for people to show their support for Devcoin by making small donations or hitting up the various alt-currency faucets from time to time.

I am bored at work and throwing some junk at the wall trying to see what sticks  Smiley Cheesy Smiley
What you're talking about is jedi mind tricks. The federal reserve or the swiss national bank etc might be able to do that, because they're able to more-or-less promise that if necessary they'll go into the market and buy/sell in unlimited quantities (ignoring whether they 'should'). But devcoin? If you think the price of devcoin < its value then you should buy, and vice versa.

How would the altcoins be acquired? What price is 'stable'? Who gets to decide that? Does stable just mean not falling, or also not rising too much etc? Devcoin isn't exactly a pillar of international trade, so why would anyone trade it if the price was fixed?

I think there's a role for future devcoin project revenue to be used as price support, but it still raises the same issue.

Frankly, if devcoin earners are happy to sell dvc at a price that's lower than you think it's worth - then either your value is too high, or they're being paid too much relative to work.

Yeah, I think I could see my idea sliding down the wall after I read it a couple of times. I have tons of ideas all of the time, some of them are decent ones but most of them are below average.   Cheesy

1639  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: January 15, 2014, 09:27:46 AM
I was clicking around on some of the other alt-coin threads and had an idea.


What if there was a kind of strategic Devcoin reserve of the top 5 or so alt coins? The reserve could be tapped to stabalize the price of Devcoin when it doesn't seem to be holding its value. If the reserve ended up having a substantial value, it could help stabilize the price of Devcoin on the exchanges just by everyone knowing of its existence, even if it was never used.

One of the admins could be the reserve chairman and in charge of spending the coins but all of the other admins would have a vote  if any of the reserve gets used. The vote could occur once or twice a month (or as needed) with more than 50% of the admins agreeing that it needs to be tapped before any spending happens. It could be mainly funded by donations and all of the coins values updated on a regular basis for everyone to see.

It might provide a way for people to show their support for Devcoin by making small donations or hitting up the various alt-currency faucets from time to time.



I am bored at work and throwing some junk at the wall trying to see what sticks  Smiley Cheesy Smiley
1640  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: January 14, 2014, 10:54:58 PM
Devcoin has been mentioned in a Wired article http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2014-01/13/dogecoin-and-the-era-of-personal-currency

EDIT: Time to reopen the Devcoin page on Wikipedia - I can't believe they deleted it we had just as many refs as most of the other alt coins - what a joke!




Cool! just a couple of articles such as this one could have people all over the place asking questions about Devcoins.

I think the lack of exposure of what Devcoin is and what it is about could easily be taken care of by the end of the year with some timely articles by a few major news outlets. Maybe an admin that is dedicated to being the media and/blog point-of-contact would be in order.

One of the easiest and cheapest ways to raise awareness of Devcoin would be to go the guest post route on financial blogs. If you check out the Money Crashers list of person finance blogs (below) many of them allow guest posts.

http://www.moneycrashers.com/top-personal-finance-blogs/

One would simply need to contact the owners of the blogs and ask if they can submit a unique article about Devcoins and/or Devtome. Most blogs are usually hungry for new contact and will gladly accept your offer as long as your request email doesn't look spammy. The key factor about guest posting is that the guest poster never has to pay money for it. The blog owner gets new (and free) content and the guest poster is allowed two or three links links back to their blog, Facebook page and/or a Wiki such as Devtome.


I am using my personal finance blog that I co-run with a couple of other people (below) as an example because most are set up in a similar fashion.

http://www.moneyandpotatoes.com

We have a write for us link across the top of the blog and we do get almost daily requests for guest blog posting. Unfortunately, the vast majority of the requests are of the spammy variety and they never get posted on the blog. However, we have had several valid ones that were published and they provided our blog with some good content.

The key to getting this accomplished would be someone having the ability to write about Devcoin/Devtome from several different angles and always coming up with what amounts to roughly 90% new content with each article.

It might also help to have a PDF type press packet that is tied to a domain so a link could be provided to the blog owners so that they can quickly and easily see what Devcoin is about.


~2 cents~

Bittzy78


I'm coordinating the marketing / press of Devcoin at the moment with monthly ad campaigns and press releases (which perhaps is how Wired heard about us). The biggest outlets we've been on from these is The Wall Street Journal and Yahoo Finance.

I would like to give you 6 shares next month - for you to put the above into action.

Would you like to do it? And are there any objections from anyone here?

Yeah, I would be willing to give it a shot for a month and see how it goes.


Great! Well if no one objects you'll get 6 shares next month to try and arrange guest posts on the blogs at http://www.moneycrashers.com/top-personal-finance-blogs/ If you get one (or more) I'll help you with the article(s) Wink

We can also work on a press kit in PDF format to be hosted at devcoin.org - great idea.

I already have a standing invitation to swap guest posts on another personal finance blog (http://cashcowcouple.com/) but haven't answered them in a couple of weeks. I just sent them an email asking them if they still want to swap guest posts. I have one short article already mostly completed about alt-coin speculation that is a little generic but mentions Devcoin more than others.

If you want to do an article on something along the lines of how to make money writing on Devtome that meets the criteria of what we have on Money and Potatoes ( http://www.moneyandpotatoes.com/write-for-us/ )... I can guarantee that it will be published. Smiley

Just mention in your bio that you are regular contributor to the Devtome Wiki and be sure not to post the article on this forum (but I am sure you already know that.)


Great! Well as I have the power to assign a small number of shares for marketing purposes - you will get 6 next month to contact all the blogs at http://www.moneycrashers.com/top-personal-finance-blogs/  and ask for guest posts Smiley Please PM me with your DVC address which can accept generated Devcoin shares (a wallet on your computer).

I've noticed Heavy covers many different cryptocurrencies (http://www.heavy.com/tech/2013/12/dogecoin-what-is-shibe-cryptocurrenc/) so I have contacted them about doing a write up about Devcoin.

In re to guest posting on your blog - does your blog get a lot of traffic?

Do you think that you would be interested in doing a post on my blog? I only ask because I should have some free time at work tonight and have this idea for a post kicking around in my head. I am thinking about doing a simplistic article on how people can make money writing on Devtome...kind of a step-by-step guide. Either way, I will probably link it to 25 - 50 other personal finance blogs via the comment sections of them.

Bittzy78
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