[DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated

[Athanasios Motok]

The only problem that is holding me back from attempting to make these types of sites is the customer service portion and upkeep. There is just too much legally that could be an issue with exchanges, paypal to crypto, etc. sites. It may not be a thing for most people, but for me it just is a little too much.

Yeah I had noticed not many coins had these types of sites available to them.
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[Bittzy78]

The only problem that is holding me back from attempting to make these types of sites is the customer service portion and upkeep. There is just too much legally that could be an issue with exchanges, paypal to crypto, etc. sites. It may not be a thing for most people, but for me it just is a little too much.

Yeah I had noticed not many coins had these types of sites available to them.
-AM

I know in the United States you can pretty much do as you wish with regular gift cards (Amazon, Walmart etc)  all day long on your website, mainly because they aren't viewed as cash. It all changes if you try and sell or exchange those credit card gift cards. The government considers those cash and if you are not careful, you could be considered an accessory to money laundering. I am pretty sure it would be the same thing if you used Paypal or other similar sites.

It could end up being a slippery slope to attempt such a site.

[smeagol]

I thought of a cool idea that maybe could count as a bounty, What if someone made a devcoin to paypal website or something like that. I think this would be a great idea and also possibly make devcoin more popular.  
-AM

Like coinbase, where you can convert dvc to your bank account?

Would anyone be interested in running a signature ad campaign for devcoin here on the forums?  That might make devcoin more well-known.

[smeagol]

New update!  http://dvc4giftcards.us/ now offers $50 eStarbucks cards and Netflix 12-month codes.

[sidhujag]

I thought of a cool idea that maybe could count as a bounty, What if someone made a devcoin to paypal website or something like that. I think this would be a great idea and also possibly make devcoin more popular. 
-AM

You can already do so...

tagbond exchange offers devcoin and also offers ability to deposit/withdraw to paypal... maybe you can test it out? This is why I made a big deal when we made it onto their platform because now you can fund or go back via paypal/credit card/bank transfer and/or other fiat currencies instantly.

[Bittzy78]

New update!  http://dvc4giftcards.us/ now offers $50 eStarbucks cards and Netflix 12-month codes.

For some reason I can never get that site to come up for me when I click on the link.

Although, I used to be able to look at it.

[dalamar96]

Personally I like the DevTome shares. I think that the writing on there could be better in some cases, but in others it is really well done. I have started writing again, because it is worth it to me again due to the DevCoins. I have started creating a full D&D style world and writing short stories in it and starting to build it out (creating maps and descriptions to go along with the stories and the back stories.) It is fun to be doing that again and I hope to keep doing it, and DevTome is a great place to put it out rather then copyrighting it all and publishing it on Amazon or wherever.

Just my 2 cents

Could you make these maps in some machine-usable form?

Like maybe do Crossfire RPG maps and/or Battle for Wesnoth maps and/or maps for whatever that online tabletop roleplaying system Novacadian uses is?

Maybe also Freeciv-scale maps of each entire planet would be useful...

-MarkM-

I am doing them bit by bit, I haven't started them on a world level scale, but I can. I am using Cartographer to create them.

Given enough time, I guess I could make some world maps, but that would take away from my time writing and doing maps for my world :-p hehe

[Athanasios Motok]

I thought of a cool idea that maybe could count as a bounty, What if someone made a devcoin to paypal website or something like that. I think this would be a great idea and also possibly make devcoin more popular.  
-AM

Like coinbase, where you can convert dvc to your bank account?

Would anyone be interested in running a signature ad campaign for devcoin here on the forums?  That might make devcoin more well-known.

Yeah that was what I was thinking, something like that.
-AM

[Athanasios Motok]

New update!  http://dvc4giftcards.us/ now offers $50 eStarbucks cards and Netflix 12-month codes.

Does the Starbucks coffee cards work like a coupon in actual Starbucks stores?

[Athanasios Motok]

Would anyone be interested in running a signature ad campaign for devcoin here on the forums?  That might make devcoin more well-known.

Yeah I would be interested in making devcoin popular, what all would I need to do though?

[Bittzy78]

It is interesting that ebay is going to allow digital currency on their U.K. site in February but not on the U.S. one.... that is a step in the right direction but still very annoying. If anyone on the forum is from the U.K. and planning on selling Devcoins, maybe something can be worked out to get more listings up and going for Devcoin in Feb.


I had all of my Devcoin listings canceled on ebay on the U.S. site a few days ago.


http://www.coindesk.com/ebay-uk-virtual-currency-february/

[emfox]

I thought of a cool idea that maybe could count as a bounty, What if someone made a devcoin to paypal website or something like that. I think this would be a great idea and also possibly make devcoin more popular.  
-AM

Like coinbase, where you can convert dvc to your bank account?

Would anyone be interested in running a signature ad campaign for devcoin here on the forums?  That might make devcoin more well-known.

What do you mean by signature ad campaign? Is my faucet doing that? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=191553.msg1983573

[emfox]

newest wallet(devcoind on linux x32) and android wallet(1.0.1) tested, basically it all works like a charm, great work! I tested the new windows version of qt gui, sending receiving via qr code from and to android wallet, everything works.

and some minor issues:

1. devcoind need to be compiled dynamically, i'd manually removed the '--static' flag. If not, the compilation finished but it report "cannot find file or directory" while starting devcoind;

2. I suppose the android wallet does not compatible with old devcoin nodes yet? because it cannot connect to any peer, so I let it point to my own node which has deployed the newest devcoind (d.evco.in with default port), and it works.

[unclejed613]

Would anyone be interested in running a signature ad campaign for devcoin here on the forums?  That might make devcoin more well-known.

Yeah I would be interested in making devcoin popular, what all would I need to do though?

well you can't say anything on "FB" because the content nazis immediately block any devtome.com or devcoin.org address......

[Bittzy78]

Would anyone be interested in running a signature ad campaign for devcoin here on the forums?  That might make devcoin more well-known.

Yeah I would be interested in making devcoin popular, what all would I need to do though?

well you can't say anything on "FB" because the content nazis immediately block any devtome.com or devcoin.org address......

They don't block this one...

http://www.moneyandpotatoes.com/freelance-writer-earn-some-extra-money-with-devtome/


It probably ended up being a little long and confusing but it could get people interested. The social buttons are at the bottom of the article.

[sidhujag]

newest wallet(devcoind on linux x32) and android wallet(1.0.1) tested, basically it all works like a charm, great work! I tested the new windows version of qt gui, sending receiving via qr code from and to android wallet, everything works.

and some minor issues:

1. devcoind need to be compiled dynamically, i'd manually removed the '--static' flag. If not, the compilation finished but it report "cannot find file or directory" while starting devcoind;

2. I suppose the android wallet does not compatible with old devcoin nodes yet? because it cannot connect to any peer, so I let it point to my own node which has deployed the newest devcoind (d.evco.in with default port), and it works.

Its better to be static so we send out a single file... the reason you are not able to run with static is cause
one of the dependencies were not compiled statically. With db boost
openssl etc you need to compile these with static aswell and then use the static libs in the makefile.. the executable grows in size too but its better. once you do this can you send me linux executable I will put it in installer..

Yea the android only connects to new nodes for security reasons im sure it would work but there are loopholes that would open up.

so can i point to your node aswell then? d.evco.in:52333?

I went thru quite a bit of pain to ensure I can link everything statically.. although there are some boost performance gains using dynamic linking its really a tradeoff and to me more professional to have it static.

If you have trouble let me know I will give you commands on how to conpile the dependencies statically. Infact I will update the readme.

[jasinlee]

http://forum.devcoin.org

Will now point to coinzen. Hyperspire can you update the site to add a link to the forum when you get a chance ?

[emfox]

newest wallet(devcoind on linux x32) and android wallet(1.0.1) tested, basically it all works like a charm, great work! I tested the new windows version of qt gui, sending receiving via qr code from and to android wallet, everything works.

and some minor issues:

1. devcoind need to be compiled dynamically, i'd manually removed the '--static' flag. If not, the compilation finished but it report "cannot find file or directory" while starting devcoind;

2. I suppose the android wallet does not compatible with old devcoin nodes yet? because it cannot connect to any peer, so I let it point to my own node which has deployed the newest devcoind (d.evco.in with default port), and it works.

Its better to be static so we send out a single file... the reason you are not able to run with static is cause
one of the dependencies were not compiled statically. With db boost
openssl etc you need to compile these with static aswell and then use the static libs in the makefile.. the executable grows in size too but its better. once you do this can you send me linux executable I will put it in installer..

Yea the android only connects to new nodes for security reasons im sure it would work but there are loopholes that would open up.

so can i point to your node aswell then? d.evco.in:52333?

I went thru quite a bit of pain to ensure I can link everything statically.. although there are some boost performance gains using dynamic linking its really a tradeoff and to me more professional to have it static.

If you have trouble let me know I will give you commands on how to conpile the dependencies statically. Infact I will update the readme.

yes that's d.evco.in:52333, you can always use this because that's my vps server and it's up more than 99% of the time.

I'll try to compile all the dependency static.... though I think the best way is to use automake/autoconf buiding system, which bitcoin 0.8.6 already does.

[markm]

Doesn't static waste a huge amount of RAM? At least if lots of coins all are static doesn't that stop them sharing code pages for all the libs they all have in common?

We still haven't gotten the RAM hogging fix into all the merged mined coins and already people want to start making them hog more for libs they all use?

Or is there some smarts in the sharing that will notice the static libs are the same and share them?

-MarkM-

[emfox]

Doesn't static waste a huge amount of RAM? At least if lots of coins all are static doesn't that stop them sharing code pages for all the libs they all have in common?

We still haven't gotten the RAM hogging fix into all the merged mined coins and already people want to start making them hog more for libs they all use?

Or is there some smarts in the sharing that will notice the static libs are the same and share them?

-MarkM-

no, not any magic that will detect libs static linked into other binarys. the only advantage is redistributing easily and professionally.

Yes Mark you're right, no need to distributed devcoind static, because all those people using devcoind will be sys admins, that they are not likely to use directly binarys and will prefer to build themselves. I think sidhujag may refer to devcoin-qt linux version, instead of devcoind.