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1161  Economy / Services / Re: Bitcoin 100: Developed Specifically for Non-Profits on: January 18, 2014, 09:45:07 PM
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From: Jason Shim
To Brock, me

Dmitry, Brock is currently involved with War Child Canada and has expressed an interest in the Bitcoin 100. Brock, from here, just let Dmitry know that you're interested along with a link to the War Child site and let him know that you are looking to implement it within your organization.
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From: Brock W

Dmitry, I would love to get the ball rolling on helping War Child accept Bitcoin donations. Here is the link to our site: www.warchild.ca (we have a splash page up for the holidays, FYI)
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Hi Dmitry,

We are live - http://www.warchild.ca/bitcoin

Thanks for all the help to date, and let me know if there is anything else I can do in the future for Bitcoin100.

Donation sent http://blockchain.info/tx/d20f411888b05b05db6a7b4a5771ce73ba935b270156e125274e4d38f81c8266

I sent the donation before checking whether their bitcoin donation page has a link from their main page. I can't find one. My mistake. I contacted Brock and asked him to fix that. I'm confident he will.
1162  Economy / Services / Re: Bitcoin 100: Developed Specifically for Non-Profits on: January 18, 2014, 09:30:30 PM
Our charity provides safe homes and a great life for homeless children in Bolivia.  In our first day accepting bitcoins the community gave enough to support a child in a home for one month!  So impressed with the bitcoin community.  Hope to get added to Bitcoin 100 - www.kayachildren.org/bitcoin

Hi. Since Phinneas seems to be busy, I went ahead and checked out your charity. Everything seems fine, so $1,000 donation has been sent
http://blockchain.info/tx/d19a935c6d78fe19e2aa9e6ebbc488b371920f20480b29a9bb49ade3733463f5
1163  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Ethereum: 2nd gen cryptocurrency with contract programming, "dagger" hashing on: January 18, 2014, 03:35:59 AM
And yes Ethereum is indeed mind-bogglingly awesome, FellowTraveller (author of Open Transactions) had this to say on Reddit: "The most innovative blockchain-based cryptocurrency since Bitcoin itself, and the only one that I would bother acquiring units of."

I really don't like altcoins, and think all of them so far, including Litecoin, are useless, but I agree with FT, this is the only one, besides Bitcoin, I would acquire and support. I've known about this for a while, and have read the whitepaper, but didn't realize the secret was out already...
1164  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Nxt :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 18, 2014, 03:07:21 AM
Is this one of those examples of how a coin's value depends on the developers backing it, and not on features it promises?
1165  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Devastation on: January 17, 2014, 08:00:17 PM
That is true only to an extent. The routine aspects of those professions can be automated.
Its in the area if creativity that algorithm breaks down.

To quote from one of the links above.

http://unheresy.com/Information%20Is%20Alive.html#Thought_Isn't_Fungible

I don't know if you were in on this discussion, but a long time ago in another thread we were talking about self-learning AI, genetic algorithms, "ghosts in machine" scenarios, and computers that are actually taught, bit by bit, as opposed to having their knowledge written as is with algorithms. There is research underway where such robots are taught to recognize things and interract with their environment, from scratch, where the AI is composed of the sum if its experiences, as opposed to a predetermined algorithm. This makes each AI unique, but is in a way like raising a child, where the process of training is long and tedious. There are also more recent developments in processor design, where instead of logic gates being switched on and off like in current CPUs, they are treated like networks and the on/off "connections" are "hardened" as they are more frequently used, just like the neuron networks in out brains are "hardened" with more permanent connections as we memorize things to long-term memory.

I think at some point the discussion devolved into the threat of those learning-by-experience AI's being abused in the way they were not intended to be, and the possible fallout from, say, an accounting AI being sexually molested or introduced to porn to screw with its programming (I may have been the instigator of that somewhat-derailment, but I plead the 5th Grin)
1166  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Devastation on: January 17, 2014, 07:47:37 PM
We used to have to calculate everything using paper and pencil, and memorize multiplication tables. Now we have calculators. We used to have to memorize facts, encyplopedias, and history. Now we can easily look up those things through google and wikipedia. I don't understand why with computers becoming ever more advanced, we won't just continue to use them to supplement our own thinking the same way we did with calculators, google, etc.

Because they will think better, more accurately, faster, with better information, and more reliable results, that any human every could.  If you choose to trust your own reasoning which is flawed, instead of trusting superior reasoning, then you will be wrong, and will fail to compete with those who do trust the more correct reasoning.  If you employ a human instead of a robot, your business will fail to compete with purely automated businesses.  Under such circumstances, no publicly held corporation, with a fiduciary duty to its shareholders, could risk hiring a human.

I think you missed my point somewhat. Right now, I trust the reasoning of my Excel calculated financial spreadsheet way more than I would trust the reasoning of someone doing calculations and projections with paper and pencil. I can get reliable results instantly, and in many more forms, without having to think about it, or even do any math in my head. So the position of accountant and mathematician is replaced with a position of someone who is able to analyze great amounts of data that were simply not available before, and make informed decisions based on learned skills and past experience. My thinking and reasoning skills are the same, but technology has augmented them to allow me to do vastly more complex things, rather than simply replacing me.
1167  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: [PREORDER] Trezor: Bitcoin hardware wallet on: January 17, 2014, 07:39:59 PM
I need this thing for my parents as soon as possible, cause I clean out viruses from their system pretty much every other month!

They can still store the bitcoins on an offline PC, use it to for tx signing, and use the online PC for broadcasting the transactions.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/government_programs/jan-june14/surveillance_01-15.html

Yet another thing to make Trezor more valuable...even the offline PC's are cracked.

I'm less worried about the NSA than the folks who hack the NSA and can do the follow-on attacks.  When the NSA does these things it leaves the door open for whomever else might walk through.  Not everyone is as honest and forthcoming as Snowden.

Makes me think of tightly government-controlled nuclear reactor generators, and what happens to them and their messes once the government collapsses (looking at you, USSR)
1168  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Project Bitcoin Update: We're Onto Transaction #3! on: January 17, 2014, 07:37:45 PM
Curious: can these wallets have any image carved onto them, and would the artist mind carving on something that is copyrighted?
1169  Economy / Economics / Re: Technological unemployment is (almost) here on: January 17, 2014, 06:55:27 PM
Again, do you really think capital owners will voluntary pay 80-90-95% of their profits to support unproductive jobs?! In fact, they will simply move businesses and factories to the countries which don't have this overhead! They are so greedy that move production from China to Vietnam and Cambodia where labor is few cents cheaper.
So large number of "unproductive" jobs (from market perspective) can exist only in the planned economy with govt ownership of the production means.

If that's the case, then wouldn't they also move their businesses out of the governments that want to plan economies? There won't be any economy for those governments to plan with. And if the businesses that move out are also the type that provide life essential things, like food, then this planned economy government would have to buy its food from those other countries, while having no economy, and thus no money, to buy it with. (and if you're proposing that farming gets collectivised, too, we all saw how well that worked in USSR and China)
1170  Economy / Economics / Re: Technological unemployment is (almost) here on: January 17, 2014, 06:42:33 PM
Two concerns stood out for me...

Lets say at some point labor value has collapsed and capitol goods gain an increasing share of wealth.  This would increase corporate profits to very high levels.

If labor value has collapsed, that implies low income and high unemployment. Corporate profits come from sales. How will those profits increase to very high levels, if there's no one with money to buy the products?


This might actually be a done by creating a new class of stock for all publicly traded companies, the new 'class C' (for Citizens) shares carry only one right, receiving dividends and voting for dividend amounts. 
All stock owners including the class C ones would have an incentive to vote for lower dividends if it produces future growth that they can ultimately enjoy.

History proves otherwise. If class C dividends are guaranteed, class C owners would still have the incentive to give themselves as much as they can now at the expense of the future population (especially older people), even to the detriment of A and B holders, and the future survival of the company. Replace "Class C Dividends" with "Tax/Debt supported social programs," and you'll see that the same thing is happening now: people are voting themselves more and more money through social funding, without caring about the associated future debt.
1171  Economy / Economics / Re: Technological unemployment is (almost) here on: January 17, 2014, 06:34:35 PM
Because government has been the worst polluter in the world
Can you prove your words?

How much garbage, spilled gas and oil, carbon dioxide, lead, and uranium has been threwn all over Iraq in the last 10 years?
1172  Other / Off-topic / Re: What we've learnt today. on: January 17, 2014, 06:32:09 PM
I learnt that if you dobnt have weed, you an still get super fucking high by drinking vodka and shaking with dubstep Grin Grin

That sounds very Russian.
1173  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: [PREORDER] Trezor: Bitcoin hardware wallet on: January 17, 2014, 06:28:39 PM
I need this thing for my parents as soon as possible, cause I clean out viruses from their system pretty much every other month!

They can still store the bitcoins on an offline PC, use it to for tx signing, and use the online PC for broadcasting the transactions.

Not sure of serious
if he was really serious, he would have included a bip 38 paper wallet backup with a high entropy password for mom and pop.

High entropy in this case means a password consisting of your first name, your birthday, AND your last name, as opposed to just the first two.
1174  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: [PREORDER] Trezor: Bitcoin hardware wallet on: January 17, 2014, 06:27:27 PM
Are you offended bro?

Extremely, bro  Angry
1175  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Atheism does not exist on: January 17, 2014, 05:08:16 PM
Atheism isn't a believe in the non-existence of god, it is saying "I don't believe you when you claim that god exists, because you don't have any evidence."

That's all.
1176  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Civil War in America on: January 17, 2014, 05:03:39 PM
lol, what?  The 'illuminati' is responsible for nearly all wars around the world.


You guys are fucking morons. The Illuminati was a group of scientists, luminaries, and personal freedom advocates, who's agenda and purpose was to "illuminate" or enlighten people's mind with science and reason, and bring down churches and monarchies (governments). They were about as far from "shadow government" as Bitcoin is from the Federal Reserve. But, of course, the powers that be could have none of that, so they convinced idiot dupes like yourselves that the Illuminati is exactly the opposite of what they stood for (They couldn't be satanic, because they were atheists, not believing in god or satan).
1177  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Vs. Paypal - and PayPal is getting sued. on: January 17, 2014, 04:52:30 PM
I'm assume you are talking to me

Yes I was. My intent was not conspiracy or to imply anything, as I have no proof of anything one way or the other. It was only to solicit a response from you, which in itself would tell me more. Thank you. (I am now 55% sure you are not Terrahasher. Suggest you abandon this thread to build up your identity separately elsewhere.)
1178  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: [PREORDER] Trezor: Bitcoin hardware wallet on: January 17, 2014, 04:36:55 AM
I did a stupid thing long ago when Bitcoin was new, I bought 100 dollars worth of Bitcoin when I was 12, Because my dad go me a PayPal account with 100 dollars in it.

And I had 102 Bitcoins, I sold it two weeks later for $80, Now I bet that guy is rich as fuck.  Angry

Many others sold at $16

Lol, I could of bought this site off theymos. and change my name to B1T_L0RD

Theymos has 2,200 bitcoins, so I doubt you could have.
1179  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Project Bitcoin UPDATE: What crazy thing or experience can u sell me for .15btc? on: January 17, 2014, 04:29:37 AM
Perhaps I can finally offload my coffee table...
O.o

Yeah, you're right, it's worth way more than a house.
1180  Bitcoin / Meetups / Re: announcement: the international "when-bitcoin-reaches 1000,- $ party" on: January 17, 2014, 04:18:13 AM
I don't know if he would have ideas. That's kind of up to us, and he can then probably get whoever we want for us. We just have to pick someone.
Another option is we can go with these guys https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGWJbcTvL_M  Grin


canīt watch it in germany. fkn "gema" does not allow to play it.

There's a kids' pizza restaurant in America, called Chuck-E-Cheese, that has arcades, various games, a ball pit pool, a guy in a giant mouse costume, and a robot band that plays music. It's typically where kids go to have their birthday parties and such. The band consists on animals playing various instruments. Some guy bought the entire stage of robots, and has been programming them to play songs on request, synchronizing their movements, eyes, mouths, etc to the music. He's pretty good at it, but it's still trippy to watch gorrilas and bears rap or sing 80's trip music.
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