I love the way some of you guys are already in the process of claiming that anyone who isn't in automatic agreement with you is an enemy and working with ISIS.
How do you interpret a protest against attacking ISIS? Or teaming up with Syria and Iran to protest attacking ISIS? I've actually read through the article instead of jumping to conclusions.
Russia said it would not support any military action without a UN resolution authorising it. "The US president has spoken directly about the possibility of strikes by the US armed forces against Isil positions in Syria without the consent of the legitimate government," said a spokesman. "This step, in the absence of a UN security council decision, would be an act of aggression, a gross violation of international law." China said that the world should fight terror but that national sovereignty must be respected.
I note the article doesn't say China condemns it. There's a difference between not supporting, and condemning. Also, pretty hilarious Russia talking about military actions against a country without the consent of its government  |
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another kept repeating his "expert" line that Russia will soon be in recession but the latest we know, Rusia grew by .8%
Just so you know, economic growth needs to account for population growth. Having economic growth at about 2% means you are not growing, but not falling either. It just means you are maintaining your economic growth along with your population growth. "Growing" by 0.8% means you are falling behind, and you have more and more people with less and less stuff per person. Also, ( http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-08-11/russian-gdp-growth-slows-to-0-8-as-demand-cools-amid-sanctions.html) "Russia’s economic growth slumped to the weakest in five quarters" that being 0.8%. Russia had "0.9 percent growth in the first three months of the year," which is also really slow and pathetic (unless a lot of Russians are killing themselves). Meanwhile US economic growth has been between 2.5% and 4%. Basically, Russia is doing really really bad, and will likely do worse as it loses customers around the world, and wastes money and resources trying to readjust itself to the sanctions. As for the counter-sanctions, check this out, "Russia was the destination for 19.8 percent of Lithuania’s exports last year. For Latvia, Estonia, Finland and Poland it was 16.2 percent, 11.4 percent, 9.6 percent and 5.3 percent respectively." If you say those countries will be hurt, how do you think Russia will fare when 40% of its exports are going to those countries it's now blocked from sending them to? By the way, where are you from? You sound like a 1200's Mongol. |
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I love the way some of you guys are already in the process of claiming that anyone who isn't in automatic agreement with you is an enemy and working with ISIS.
How do you interpret a protest against attacking ISIS? Or teaming up with Syria and Iran to protest attacking ISIS? |
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Listen one more time, who tell it to journalist.
I don't know who. Is it someone important? Sure, important. Ukrainian military declared, hat their mission is pushing out Russians civilians (citizens of Ukraine) or kill them. What more You will? Ukrainian military? Is this in their official document somewhere? Did Poroshenko approve this? Did the parliament vote on this? Is that what they are doing while keeping eastern Ukraine and eastern Ukrainians IN Ukraine by defending them from Russian invaders and separatists? Is Ethnic cleansing like what Russia did in Georgia? Or how Russia is sending Tatars out of Crimea now? |
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Listen one more time, who tell it to journalist.
I don't know who. Is it someone important? |
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Ethnic cleansing is against Russians, that are citizens of Ukraine, Yes.Listen HERE, please. I ead that. Didn't see anything interesting or worthwhile. So have no idea what you are referring to. for us Ukrainians the only question is how to remove them from our territory without allowing them to take chunks of it with them
We cannot live together with them after this war; they will either be killed or pushed out. Ethnic cleansing. Show me where that is in Ukrainian law, or show me where Poroshenko said that. |
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Ethnic cleansing is against Russians, that are citizens of Ukraine, Yes. Listen HERE, please. I ead that. Didn't see anything interesting or worthwhile. So have no idea what you are referring to. |
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 What is on this picture? A Karpatian footbal team and some old soldier who looks like he served in WW2. Are they now fighting in Russia, on Russian territory, against Russians? |
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This picure is a fake.
I am sorry, I hope these are better:   |
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LOL.
DPNI and RNE are banned for more that 10 and 5 Years ago or more, why You post not a Data and place on the pictures?
What connection they have with Donbass?
Sorry, I hope this is better:  (RNE neo-Nazi fighters in eastern Ukraine)  (Pavel Gubarev, the leader of the so-called Donetsk People’s Republic, in the Russian neo-Nazi movement Russian National Unity. This one is interesting, because at the end of May 2014, Russian blogger Dmitry Semenov published photos of Gubarev wearing a neo-Nazi uniform. As a result, Semenov was arrested and charged for propaganda and public demonstration of Nazi symbols. Meanwhile, neo-nazi rallies were organized in Moscow and St. Petersburg on May 1 with no interference.)  (Anton Raevskii, a Russian citizen from St. Petersburg and founder of a Russian fascist organization, is an active participant in separatist rallies in Odesa)  (Alexey Milchakov, a Russian mercenary and self avowed nazi fascist)  (is now fighting for “Donetsk People’s Republic” to protect people from those other nazi fascists. He's second from the right.)  (Russian neo-Nazi “Kornilovtsy” battalion operating in Ukraine)  (Tattoo of the ‘Odal’ rune, used by Nazi Germany and fascist groups today)  (Rifle with “Kuban 88″ on the strap. The number 88 in skinhead culture means “Heil Hitler”) |
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I guess this madness is bound to culminate sooner or later in a complete and overwhelming ban for the Russian language use under the penalty of imprisonment and confiscation of property...
Why would they ban the Russian language, when most of them speak Russian??? You'd better first answer why they want to ban the Russian gas transit through Ukraine. If you somehow manage to answer this question, this will also be an answer to your question... Because the Russian government/military invaded their country and is shooting at their military. Is that not a good enough reason? In 1914 Saint Petersburg was renamed to Petrograd. Do you know the reasons? So don't be surprised that the Russian language will be officially banned one day. In fact, when Maidan took over and Yanukovich had to run to Russia, one of the first plans of the new powers in Kiev was to ban Russian... I am from Kiev. A bunch of my friends are from Kiev. We spoke Russian, and only used Ukrainian in the school we went to. Next to us was another school, of exact same size, that was a purely russian school. No one in Ukraine gives a damn about the Russian language, nor considers it a threat. There are a bunch of people who use it exclusively and have never really learned the Ukrainian language (just like there are spanish speaking people in USA, and french speaking people in Canada, who won't speak english well, but note that Spanish and French are not banned in either country). So, no, one of the first plans was NOT to ban russian. If someone said it, that person was crazy (there are crazy people everywhere), and no one in Kiev would take them seriously (but apparently Russia and their propaganda machine did). So you don't know the history, both recent and ancient? Okay then, lol... No, I simply don't believe the renaming of a city is relevant to claims of banning a language. But do feel free to enlighten me. |
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Since someone brought up the topic of nazis in Ukraine... (RNE neo-Nazi fighters in eastern Ukraine) (Pavel Gubarev, the leader of the so-called Donetsk People’s Republic, in the Russian neo-Nazi movement Russian National Unity. This one is interesting, because at the end of May 2014, Russian blogger Dmitry Semenov published photos of Gubarev wearing a neo-Nazi uniform. As a result, Semenov was arrested and charged for propaganda and public demonstration of Nazi symbols. Meanwhile, neo-nazi rallies were organized in Moscow and St. Petersburg on May 1 with no interference.) (Anton Raevskii, a Russian citizen from St. Petersburg and founder of a Russian fascist organization, is an active participant in separatist rallies in Odesa) (Alexey Milchakov, a Russian mercenary fighting for “Donetsk People’s Republic”) (Russian neo-Nazi “Kornilovtsy” battalion operating in Ukraine) (Tattoo of the ‘Odal’ rune, used by Nazi Germany and fascist groups today) (Rifle with “Kuban 88″ on the strap. The number 88 in skinhead culture means “Heil Hitler”) Can we please stop it with the "Who's a bigger Nazi" argument already? There are crazy assholes on both sides of this fight, but according to every international study, Russians are far in the lead with the neo-nazi crap, so the claims of it being a problem in Ukraine from Russians is rather laughable. |
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I guess this madness is bound to culminate sooner or later in a complete and overwhelming ban for the Russian language use under the penalty of imprisonment and confiscation of property...
Why would they ban the Russian language, when most of them speak Russian??? You'd better first answer why they want to ban the Russian gas transit through Ukraine. If you somehow manage to answer this question, this will also be an answer to your question... Because the Russian government/military invaded their country and is shooting at their military. Is that not a good enough reason? In 1914 Saint Petersburg was renamed to Petrograd. Do you know the reasons? So don't be surprised that the Russian language will be officially banned one day. In fact, when Maidan took over and Yanukovich had to run to Russia, one of the first plans of the new powers in Kiev was to ban Russian... Was it because one city name is in russian and the other in ukrainian? No? Then wtf. I am from Kiev. A bunch of my friends are from Kiev. We spoke Russian, and only used Ukrainian in the school we went to. Next to us was another school, of exact same size, that was a purely russian school. No one in Ukraine gives a damn about the Russian language, nor considers it a threat. There are a bunch of people who use it exclusively and have never really learned the Ukrainian language (just like there are spanish speaking people in USA, and french speaking people in Canada, who won't speak english well, but note that Spanish and French are not banned in either country). So, no, one of the first plans was NOT to ban russian. If someone said it, that person was crazy (there are crazy people everywhere), and no one in Kiev would take them seriously (but apparently Russia and their propaganda machine did). |
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I guess this madness is bound to culminate sooner or later in a complete and overwhelming ban for the Russian language use under the penalty of imprisonment and confiscation of property...
Why would they ban the Russian language, when most of them speak Russian??? You'd better first answer why they want to ban the Russian gas transit through Ukraine. If you somehow manage to answer this question, this will also be an answer to your question... Because the Russian government/military invaded their country and is shooting at their military. Is that not a good enough reason? |
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I was actually referring to (and leading into the direction) the economic stagnation that followed, in large part due to uncertainty and dread surrounding the ongoing war, which had to be "fixed" by trying to stimulate the economy on with very low interest rates, which led to the housing bubble, which, combined with a massively increased government debt, fights over the debt ceiling, and general political and economic instability of the US, at least in small part contributed to the recession we had in 2008, and the current decline that we can't seem to get ourselves out of (is that good for connecting the dots?) Yes, I'm saying if US didn't spend $3 trillion to invade Iraq, it would have been much better off.
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I am not sure what is in those pictures. The first one looks like a Ukrainian independent neonazi military uniforms of that group that's been going around Ukraine, swearing to fight off Russians at any cost, that may or may not be actually tied to the Ukraine government, and the rest I don't know, since I can't tell whom those helmets belong to, or why they have those lables on them. You provided the pictures, so you explain it. Then maybe you can explain these too?    (I'll give you a hint, the first one on the top left is of Russian neo-nazis within the Russian forces in Ukraine) By the way, I suggest you don't try to bring Neo Nazi problems into this debate, because if you think Ukraine has issues with them, OMG do I have news for you about Russia! |
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Why take revenge on something that happened 24 years ago?
That goes both ways. Governments in Latvia and Estonia claim that they were invaded by the USSR during WW2, and therefore refuse to grant citizenship to those ethnic Russian residents who were born after 1941. If these nations can take revenge for something that happened 73 years ago, in 1941 (when Russia didn't even existed), then why can't Russia take revenge on something that happened 24 years ago? Is it revenge to deny citizenship to foreign people who have babies on your soil??? |
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Dear President Hitler and German People,
Please accept our apologies for the behavior of our Governments and Media. Western Nations, led by Britain, seem determined to start a war with Germany. A sane person would recognize the terrible consequences of such a war and would do everything in their power to avoid it. In fact it appears that this is exactly what you are doing. In the face of an endless stream of lies and provocations you have managed to keep Germany from being drawn into a second Great War. 1
Events surrounding the war in Poland are twisted to represent you as an aggressor when the facts clearly show otherwise. Jewish and Polish gangs in the Danzig and the Polish Corridor commit atrocities against the citizens of Germany on a daily basis and they receive political and financial support from Western governments. "Germans in Poland are persecuted with a bloody terror and are driven from their home." 2 Germany was blamed for the attack on the Jablunkov Pass and Mosty railway station in Silesia, even though the evidence suggests that it was just an incident "caused by an insane individual". 3 You offer humanitarian aid to the people of Danzig and you are accused of smuggling weapons into Poland.
Why are you the target of these lies and provocations? The pathological criminals of the West are pushing for war with Germany because they need an external enemy. As long as the people are focused on “Nazi aggression” they remain unaware of those truly responsible for the decline of the British economy and social system. In Europe, with its history of brutal wars sparked by arrogance and greed, European leaders have undergone a complete moral collapse and have naively fallen into line behind the British policy of imperial aggression. The last great Premiere of the Soviet Union, Joseph Stalin, and his soviet foreign minister Vyacheslav Molotov, described our common enemy in 1939 when he signed the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact (Nazi–Soviet Pact), finding common ground in the anti-capitalism of both countries. 4
Since that time the governments of Britain and France and other Western nations have been infiltrated by this “ruthless conspiracy”. While it is not necessarily unified we believe that its leaders think and act without the burden of a normal human conscience. This is why they are willing to sacrifice the lives of thousands or millions of people. They supply Jews with weapons that are used for the wholesale slaughter of thousands of Germans. They militarize police in places like Danzig to protect and strengthen their power over the people. They lie to start wars that take the lives of hundreds of thousands of people to increase their political power. They are despicable.
Like Joseph Stalin, you have a military background, so you are bound by a sense of duty to protect and serve the people of Germany. It appears that like him you recognized the madness of the Great War and have turned towards peace. (1 again) You refuse to endorse the British empire and you are working to undermine its power without engaging in direct military conflict. Instead Germany has developed closer relationships with many countries through organizations like Soviet Union and Italy, has continued to fulfill old debts and worked with its partners to meet goals that serve the interests of the people. The idea of international partnerships has been called a multipolar approach and it contrasts sharply with the unipolar, imperialist policies of the British where all countries’ resources are controlled to benefit a powerful few–and at the expense of the Nationalist Socialist proletariat.
We reject the greed, hatred and lust for power displayed by our “leaders”. We are outraged and horrified by the killing of thousands of innocent people in the name of capitalism and greed. We want peace and justice for all people. We want a real and lasting peace, the kind of peace that Joseph Stalin once spoke of:
If any foreign minister begins to defend to the death a 'peace conference,' you can be sure his government has already placed its orders for new battleships and airplanes. 5
True peace and justice are impossible as long as the “zionist conspiracy” rules Britain, France, Poland and other nations from the shadows. We pray that through our mutual efforts we may defeat the power-hungry and ruthless criminals who seek to enslave us all. We pray that we may instead foster a Third Reich that instills genuine peace on Earth for a thousand years.
YOU CAN GO FUCK YOURSELF!1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German%E2%80%93Polish_Non-Aggression_Pact2. Actually stated by Hitler as his reason for invading Poland 3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jab%C5%82onk%C3%B3w_Incident4. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact5. http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/j/joseph_stalin.html |
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Al Qaeda has dealt a MASSIVE blow to USA, not in the forms of jets hitting buildings, but in the form of a totally unnecessary and wasteful $3 trillion dollar war, which in part led to massive economic damage to US. I wonder if these guys are just trying to provoke anyone they can to try to screw countries like Al Qaeda did?
This again? Do some better research. I bet you think housing crisis happened because of the war expenses too. Just a hint - global economics and national budget doesn't work the same way as a personal checkbook. Did 9/11 and Iraq/Afghanistan war contribute to the economic depression in 2001/2002? You need to educate yourself on the definition of 'depression'. Sorry, recession. Did an economic recession follow the attack and the US actions in Iraq? Or did the Iraq war play no part in in the economic woes that US experienced in 2002 through 2004? |
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From Friday onward, Kiev will not allow any Russian gas to pass through Ukraine.
Excellent!  Wow! I really hope they don't back out on this in spite of possible EU protests! I guess this madness is bound to culminate sooner or later in a complete and overwhelming ban for the Russian language use under the penalty of imprisonment and confiscation of property...
Why would they ban the Russian language, when most of them speak Russian??? |
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