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2201  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How greedy you are ? on: July 28, 2015, 09:50:23 AM
I was playing smart until got some bucks, then I couldnt stop my greed and lost everything  Cheesy  I played again to recover my previous loss, and I lost it again. Bad luck.
it always happen to me also if i try to recover my losses for example of 5 dollars i play more and more and end up loosing like 20 dollars or even more money, i have to block the websites on my pc to avoid loosing
i tried to recover from my looses too when i was a newbie on gambling though after a few times i noticed that if you want to be successful in it you have to undergo all your looses and try again later, its much more better than betting non stop

varience also plays a part in this so after a bad streak you are more "likely" to get a good streak (which is why people try prerolling and more lol)
how? even after 50 looses in a row if you play on 50 per cent chance its still 50 per cent possibility that you will loose yes? or am i getting something wrong about game of luck?

That is the famous Gambler's fallacy.
Some people (in fact quite a large proportion of people I see here and in Vegas) somehow believe the game has memory. If the roulette ball lands on red multiple times, it will land on black more likely next time, which is obviously not true.

I don't think it's that simple. I mean yes game has no memory, so you are totally correct. That isolated event has the same odds that the game provides itself. Every toss of a coin has 50% chance, and even after 50 heads in a row, that 51 toss will have 50% chance of either head or tail, but if you stick to one of them you are decreasing variance, because the odds itself on the long run will tend to be 50% of heads and 50% of tails, because those are the odds of the game, so if you have 50 heads in a row (which is a almost an impossible event, it's very close to 0 in 1 Million tosses), you should stick to tail because in the long run, assuming the coin is not rigged, those to events will balance themselves.
2202  Economy / Gambling / Re: Recomended poker rooms (poll version) on: July 27, 2015, 09:51:56 PM
Ok finally got my withdrawal. For some reason there was a problem with it but it is now solved and they finalized the transaction.

I will still test more poker rooms before voting, but for now the experience in betcoin.ag has been a very pleasant one, even with this delay.

Very good tournaments, and depending on the time of the day it's possible to play ate 3-4 cash tables (at least in micro stakes).
2203  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How greedy you are ? on: July 27, 2015, 04:24:50 PM
I was playing smart until got some bucks, then I couldnt stop my greed and lost everything  Cheesy  I played again to recover my previous loss, and I lost it again. Bad luck.
it always happen to me also if i try to recover my losses for example of 5 dollars i play more and more and end up loosing like 20 dollars or even more money, i have to block the websites on my pc to avoid loosing
Recovering is the worst thing you can do. You should always stop when you think you have lost enough instead of trying to chase back your loses. And why do you even have to run after your loss? Were you not just gambling the money you didn't need?

I agree with adzino.
You can gamble for fun or be a poker or sports betting pro, but they both have something in common and that is the bankroll management. In either of them you can only bet the money you already know you can lose so you can have fun if that is your purpose or so you can keep your focus on what you are doing if you are there to make a living out of gamble. If you are chasing your losses you are nervous and in bad emotional shape so you will not having any fun, and you will not think straight which will make just lose more and feel bad about it.

So yeah that is the main rule about gambling that people really have to master, only bet what you can really lose without getting emotional about it. You can be mad for the bad decision or bad luck, that is normal, but you can't be mad for the loss of money, thus you can't try to recover it. That can't be the purpose or gambling.
2204  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How greedy you are ? on: July 26, 2015, 02:39:20 PM
I enjoy gambling, mainly in poker and sports bet. To be honest I think these 2 are a different kind of gambling because you can get them to be profitable if you are skilled, so it's not just a matter of luck like pure casino (dice, roulette, etc). You can however lose a lot in any of them, either the pure luck ones, or the ones with skilled involved, if you don't have an objective, and stick to it.

That's what makes you loose money, is the lack or a clear strategy with your limits for losses and profits well determined. So in my opinion is the lack of discipline and bad emotional control that makes you lose money, and not the gambling itself.
2205  Economy / Gambling / Re: SPORTSBOOK RANKINGS ~ USER GENERATED & MOST ACCURATE (PLEASE CONTRIBUTE) on: July 26, 2015, 02:30:20 PM
directbet.eu : 4

My vote goes to directbet.eu
Fast deposit and fast withdrawal, never had problems with them, and they have decent odds.
I just don't give them a 5 because I also bet on betfair, and their site is not as good as the betfair site. It feels less organized, I don't know. Also I would like to see an exchange there, which is something the admin said that he would like to do. So if they ever do it, I will give them a 5.
2206  Economy / Gambling / Re: Recomended poker rooms (poll version) on: July 26, 2015, 01:52:29 PM
Betcoin.ag the best

Anonymous online sportsbook ,poker and casino at its best. No documents, no bullshit, I voted for it definitely.

kingofbitcoin, or anyone else, do you know the average time to make an withdrawal?
I requested one yesterday, they said it could take up to 15min to new accounts etc, but it is almost a day since my request and nothing.
(I already verified the transaction by email)

Just emailed the support, I have withdrew from there twice before, once I withdrew 8.3btc and it arrived within some hours, second withdrawal was completed with 2 hours, I think it is fast for me, I am satisfied with their speed of withdrawals so far.

Wish you get your money asap, when u get the money just update here.

I deposited 0.04 btc to try the poker room, which is equivalent to 40chips. I did well in the cash tables and specially tournaments and asked to witdraw 100chips leaving there the initial deposit but still nothing for now.

I talked with live support and they said that I should get it later today.
I will update this tomorrow or as soon as I get the money.
2207  Economy / Gambling / Re: Recomended poker rooms (poll version) on: July 26, 2015, 12:34:24 PM
Betcoin.ag the best

Anonymous online sportsbook ,poker and casino at its best. No documents, no bullshit, I voted for it definitely.

kingofbitcoin, or anyone else, do you know the average time to make an withdrawal?
I requested one yesterday, they said it could take up to 15min to new accounts etc, but it is almost a day since my request and nothing.
(I already verified the transaction by email)
2208  Economy / Gambling / Re: Recomended poker rooms (poll version) on: July 25, 2015, 01:24:23 PM
i had the most fun at betcoin.ag so that's what I voted for.  It just seemed like the least threatening group and also the easiest going people.  Other places were really tight or people were just rude.  But really... I haven't found a large enough crowd to play in yet online with bitcoins.  It's very limited online.

there will always be "rude" comments on everybody play, because people are just angry and frustrated when they lost their hands, like yesterday i played some freeroll tournament at betcoin.ago, there was some guy so frustrated losing his hands he named me with all kind "nice" words just to insult me, if you know what i mean. My point is, dont use speech window and alway do something else behind as i do like practicing for distraction.

Crazyjack is right, you can't really pay attention to what people are saying. Besides, that will not bring anything to your game. When I'm at cash tables I just keep the statistics tab open and don't even look at the chat.
2209  Economy / Gambling / Re: SwCpoker.eu | No Banking, Only Bitcoin | Bitcoin Poker 2.0 LIVE NOW! on: July 25, 2015, 07:03:26 AM
Thanks for the reply.
I know it only takes 2 minutes, but I was just trying to avoid creating an account and installing software I was not going to use. But if it is like you said I should give it a try. Anyway, can you tell me if it is easy to play at 2-4 tables at the same time in micro/low stakes?


To answer your question, it depends on the time of the day, but finding cash games is usually not an issue. Right now there are 2 different 0.02/0.04 tables going.

Ranlo is right.  It does depend on the time of day and what games you are trying to play.  But if you're looking for lower stakes action you should be able to find it most of the time. 

Sometimes there is more action and sometimes there is less.  It only takes a few people willing to play to build up tables. 

Sometimes you might sit and only have one or two other players at your table, but then when you get 3-4 players others will join in and fill the table up.  I've gone from only playing with one other player to having multiple tables running pretty quickly.

I posted this a few pages back, and this was 4 tabling during the middle of the night:



On the top right of the table there is an "Action Request" button that looks like an exclamation point.  When you press that it posts a link to your table in the main chat lobby.  That helps bring in more players.

And while you're playing 2-3 handed at tables with 6 or more seats you are also earning 50% rakeback.

50% rakeback is really nice, did not know about that. I haven't deposited yet because I started playing on another room and I was being able to play at 3-4 tables so I was ok there, but it only gives me 10% rakeback I think. I guess I will try to get more "serious" on this room.
2210  Economy / Gambling / Re: Recomended poker rooms (poll version) on: July 24, 2015, 05:08:54 PM
The problem with poker rooms is that they need many players

The question is what's the site with more players in poker?

If that is your question may be you can try luckyflop. There are plenty of player there to play with you and they got so many free cash too and tournaments. I can guarantee you will be amazed with that tournament and free cash to play  Grin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=961298.740

Why do you say luckyFlop is the poker room with more players online? If I check luckyFlop, betcoin.ag and swcPoker sites wright now this is the result
LuckyFlop: 35 players online
Betcoin.ag: 286 players online
swcPoker: 128 players online

None of them has to many players, but luckyFlop is quite far from being the poker room with the most players I think.

The figure about betcoin poker room is incorrect, should be 3K-7k, 286 is the players online on betcoin.ag, it means that the gamblers play in sportsbook, casino, doesn't mean the number of poker room, you should open the poker room client, there is a figure there, usually there are 4-800 players play in 10USD freerolls, how can be only 286 players online? Cheesy

That was the number of online players (and yes they were probably divided between all the offers of the site, like casino, poker etc). I was just saying that that was a big difference so I don't think that luckyFlop has more players than these other 2 sites.
2211  Economy / Gambling / Re: SwCpoker.eu | No Banking, Only Bitcoin | Bitcoin Poker 2.0 LIVE NOW! on: July 24, 2015, 05:00:54 PM
hmm when I was installing the room something strange happened.
At the end I got 2 windows open from the Bluetooth manager and I could not close them. I had to kill the process. Any idea why this happened? It was related to the poker room, because it happened the 2 times I installed the room (just to see if it was related).
I tried google it, but I got no relations.

That is strange. I have installed on XP, Win7, Win8, Win server 1012 and now win 8.1 and that never happened...It could be you have a Trojan or virus. I would run Scan with Kapersky.

It's a strange behavior for a trojan or virus. Those things are supposed to be silent and not open windows xD
Anyway I will check it out, it's probably just a weird bug.
2212  Economy / Gambling / Re: Recomended poker rooms (poll version) on: July 24, 2015, 01:39:02 PM
The problem with poker rooms is that they need many players

The question is what's the site with more players in poker?

If that is your question may be you can try luckyflop. There are plenty of player there to play with you and they got so many free cash too and tournaments. I can guarantee you will be amazed with that tournament and free cash to play  Grin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=961298.740

Why do you say luckyFlop is the poker room with more players online? If I check luckyFlop, betcoin.ag and swcPoker sites wright now this is the result
LuckyFlop: 35 players online
Betcoin.ag: 286 players online
swcPoker: 128 players online

None of them has to many players, but luckyFlop is quite far from being the poker room with the most players I think.
2213  Economy / Gambling / Re: SwCpoker.eu | No Banking, Only Bitcoin | Bitcoin Poker 2.0 LIVE NOW! on: July 24, 2015, 10:28:39 AM
hmm when I was installing the room something strange happened.
At the end I got 2 windows open from the Bluetooth manager and I could not close them. I had to kill the process. Any idea why this happened? It was related to the poker room, because it happened the 2 times I installed the room (just to see if it was related).
I tried google it, but I got no relations.
2214  Economy / Gambling / Re: SwCpoker.eu | No Banking, Only Bitcoin | Bitcoin Poker 2.0 LIVE NOW! on: July 24, 2015, 10:18:35 AM
Hello, is there any way to see the type of tournaments that are offered before installing the software? Like how many freerolls a day, fees, buy-ins, GTD tournaments etc.
I'm starting to try out some poker rooms, but I like to get some info on them before installing software etc, because if they don't have what I like there is no point in installing and creating an account.

Thank you!

It takes 2 minutes to download and and open an account and you will then get an accurate view of what you are looking for.

They have freerolls every 90 minutes.  Mostly 5 chip ones with some 15 and 25 chip ones as well.  For the larger ones you need to earn 1 krill which is easy to do.  You earn krill by playing tournaments or cash games.  Yes they have GTD tournaments.  Most tournament buyins are from 1 to 20 chips with some larger ones as well.

1000 chips = 1 btc.

Thanks for the reply.
I know it only takes 2 minutes, but I was just trying to avoid creating an account and installing software I was not going to use. But if it is like you said I should give it a try. Anyway, can you tell me if it is easy to play at 2-4 tables at the same time in micro/low stakes?


To answer your question, it depends on the time of the day, but finding cash games is usually not an issue. Right now there are 2 different 0.02/0.04 tables going.

Ok thanks! Now it makes sense to take those 2 minutes and try out the room xD
See you at the tables.
2215  Economy / Gambling / Re: SwCpoker.eu | No Banking, Only Bitcoin | Bitcoin Poker 2.0 LIVE NOW! on: July 24, 2015, 10:07:42 AM
Hello, is there any way to see the type of tournaments that are offered before installing the software? Like how many freerolls a day, fees, buy-ins, GTD tournaments etc.
I'm starting to try out some poker rooms, but I like to get some info on them before installing software etc, because if they don't have what I like there is no point in installing and creating an account.

Thank you!

It takes 2 minutes to download and and open an account and you will then get an accurate view of what you are looking for.

They have freerolls every 90 minutes.  Mostly 5 chip ones with some 15 and 25 chip ones as well.  For the larger ones you need to earn 1 krill which is easy to do.  You earn krill by playing tournaments or cash games.  Yes they have GTD tournaments.  Most tournament buyins are from 1 to 20 chips with some larger ones as well.

1000 chips = 1 btc.

Thanks for the reply.
I know it only takes 2 minutes, but I was just trying to avoid creating an account and installing software I was not going to use. But if it is like you said I should give it a try. Anyway, can you tell me if it is easy to play at 2-4 tables at the same time in micro/low stakes?
2216  Economy / Gambling / Re: Recomended poker rooms (poll version) on: July 24, 2015, 10:01:33 AM
I voted for Betcoin.ag because this is where I find the best and most GTD freezeouts and the highest buy ins.

Saying that though I do play at SWC for cash games on the rare occasion that I want to have a change.



Cash games are better at SWC poker? Because like I said I did like the tournaments offered by betcoin.ag, but the offer in cash tables was a little weak. Sometimes I can play at 2 tables, but they are not even full, and I enjoy playing at 4 normally.

Are cash games better at SWC, hmmm as I said it is not that often that I play ring games but when I have, I have managed to get a couple of tables going and have had some fun with the guys who are usually lively in chat. Since micon missing I have not logged on to the site can only hope that it never killed SWC because that is a nice site and even if a lot of the guys are bonkers it is still a cool place to play lol What stakes do you usually play?

I'm just trying them out, so I'm playing in micro stakes. I only deposited 40 chips on betcoin.ag, and will probably do the same with some other rooms.
I would really like to see these houses to unite and create a poker network, like Ipoker. I mean they still have their room names, so they are independent from each other, and players have separate accounts etc, but they all would play together on the same network.

Any idea why this never happened?
2217  Economy / Gambling / Re: Euro Millions on: July 23, 2015, 09:44:18 PM
I also came here because I though that it was now possible to play euro millions with btc. Not that I play lotteries but it would be great for btc if something big as euro millions would accept BTC xD

Anyway about what some are saying I don't think people that play lottery are desperate, most of them are not even addicted. They probably just think that is cheap and someone will eventually win it, so why not give it a try. It's not that an 2 euros a week will compromise you bankroll. It's a few less coffees for a chance of winning a huge jackpot.
2218  Economy / Gambling / Re: VietBet.eu - Sportsbook, Casino, Racebook, & Poker Room *** Bitcoin Accepted *** on: July 23, 2015, 09:32:15 PM
Hello, I have 2 questions.

First will deposits and withdrawals always remain that high?
I mean for some players anything above $10 is to much. Deposits on btc are way to high, but even the ones via skrill or neteller are a little high.

Second, do you accept Portuguese players?

Thank you!
2219  Economy / Gambling / Re: Recomended poker rooms (poll version) on: July 23, 2015, 09:16:22 PM
I voted for Betcoin.ag because this is where I find the best and most GTD freezeouts and the highest buy ins.

Saying that though I do play at SWC for cash games on the rare occasion that I want to have a change.



Cash games are better at SWC poker? Because like I said I did like the tournaments offered by betcoin.ag, but the offer in cash tables was a little weak. Sometimes I can play at 2 tables, but they are not even full, and I enjoy playing at 4 normally.
2220  Economy / Gambling / Re: SwCpoker.eu | No Banking, Only Bitcoin | Bitcoin Poker 2.0 LIVE NOW! on: July 23, 2015, 09:13:01 PM
Hello, is there any way to see the type of tournaments that are offered before installing the software? Like how many freerolls a day, fees, buy-ins, GTD tournaments etc.
I'm starting to try out some poker rooms, but I like to get some info on them before installing software etc, because if they don't have what I like there is no point in installing and creating an account.

Thank you!
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