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281  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Crypti | XCR | Ͼ | PoS algorithm | Ed25519 | 2nd Gen Source on: April 06, 2015, 12:43:11 PM
[The 10 min load time will only be for ppl who what to run a node. Meaning some one who either want to setup and run a delegate or someone who want to host a wallet for say a web wallet or exchange (yes there are a few other reasons). I think you misunderstand the necessity to run a node. In bitcoin (I don't bash other Crypto's this is just a comparison) if you want to put your coins in to a wallet that you own and control the keys for, you MUST download and sync the wallet. However in Crypti you can own and control your own keys with out ever downloading and synchronizing the wallet.

That's interesting. How does it work? If you login to a remote note and enter your private key to login; what prevents the owner of the node/webserver from recording your key?

If you log in from a public computer, or do not have anti-virus software running;  there is always the danger of a keylogger getting your password to Crypti and any other account you may have, banks, credit cards, porn sites, email, Facebook, etc.  

If you are in a public place and use a wifi or Bluetooth keyboard, the information typed on such a keyboard is not encrypted when sent to your I-Pad, and can be intercepted and used to steal your funds.

The Crypti passphrase is hashed before being sent over the web, so interception, while possible, is encrypted.  

282  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Crypti | XCR | Ͼ | PoS algorithm | Ed25519 | 2nd Gen Source on: April 06, 2015, 12:08:02 AM
Mal,

the present block times are 60 seconds.  New DPOS block times are 10 seconds.  

I asked Boris about the possibility of a malicious delegate gaming the system.  He explained that it takes 6 confirms of each forging for a block to be permanent in the block chain.  The delegates are chosen randomly until all 101 have forged to end a cycle.  Unless a delegate owner had 60 or more delegates, the chances of his 6 delegates being the forgers of a malicious block are slim.  Even with 60 delegates, his chances are about 1/100 of forging all 6 times.  The network will drop or ignore delegates that forge X number of bad blocks.  The expense of that many delegates, servers, and bandwidth would make such attack or theft unprofitable.  

We discussed at todays meeting raising that confirms to 10 for the time being.  

There are exciting features that are being worked on, but will be added to 2.1 instead due to the time factor.


P.S.  The number of possible combinations of 101 delegates is 9 followed by 159 zeros.  
283  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Crypti | XCR | Ͼ | PoS algorithm | Ed25519 | 2nd Gen Source on: April 06, 2015, 12:00:59 AM
If DPOS is such a big deal as you claim, you should take into account that the 100 million supply of your coin is the lowest of all major POS coins. Maybe you could change it when creating the new blockchain; you only need to shift the decimal point.

Karen, this was discussed in this blog as well as internally about a 10X split........ there are many reasons it was voted down, including that time was too short before launch; exchanges might not be able to adjust immediatly; confusion because not every investor would get the word what was happening; the price of XCR might hit 100 satoshi range, and the fact that at the IPO, we promised the community not to ever raise the coin quantity. 

A 10X split might only reduce the price 1/5, giving a quick profit to those that sold right away, but seemed like a sneaky trick and would be detrimental to our LONG TERM investors.  We are not interested in short term pump and dumpers. 

We dont have a supply problem.  Even at $1000 per XCR, a Cryptoshi (0.00000001 XCR)   is still 1,000 to 1 USD cent.

We are building a entire system here, not just another ALT COIN.  Crypti is going places.  This is a "get rich slowly" project. 

Are you with us?

 
284  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Crypti | XCR | Ͼ | PoS algorithm | Ed25519 | 2nd Gen Source on: April 05, 2015, 10:40:29 PM
Bitcoin is not doing fine. Initial sync can take two days, a single confirmation one hour, and it uses gigabytes of space. It'll be completely useless 10 years from now, and this is one of the reasons why it's at $250 instead of $1100 by now. It will be replaced by a lean system that loads within 20 seconds, syncs within a minute, and confirms a TX within 30 seconds.
HEY!! We resemble that remark!!

You do? Your client needs 10 Minutes to load, another 10 minutes to sync if it was not active for a week, and a transaction will take at least 1 minute. As I understand it still uses a normal blockchain, and generates new blocks even if there is no transaction. This all sounds like a POS version of Bitcoin. Why should anyone use it instead of Nxt, Nem and the 10 other blockchain based POS coins? What makes Crypti awesome for the average user? What is the unique feature a person not interested in computing theory will care about?


Come back on Thursday........ the bride is getting her wedding gown fitted, the florist is decorating the church, and the groom is at his bachelor party.  DPOS starts in a few days.  10 second blocks, 6 confirms, node.js; DAPPs on the CBC, and free pizza.

OK..... I exaggerated on the pizza.  Wonderful things coming to Crypti this week. 

What we really need  is a troll-proof blog......... HMMMM
285  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Crypti | XCR | Ͼ | PoS algorithm | Ed25519 | 2nd Gen Source on: April 05, 2015, 06:23:55 PM
Yes. If there is no TX (in or out), then the account only exist theoretically, but not on the blockchain. Smiley

This makes sense. No wonder I could register an account without completely downloading the blockchain. I sent some XCR to this account from bter and the balance showed up in the account in the explorer. Then, to send XCR in that account, I have to completely download the blockchian. I guess that once I did a transaction in that account, my account number will never collide with other account number becasue my account number now is associated with my private key, right?

your pass phrase generates the account number.  If another user typed in your pass phrase, they would open your node/wallet.

You can always use the web wallet at crypti.me to perform any transaction from node to node.  You will not be downloading the BC at the web wallet.

286  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Crypti | XCR | Ͼ | PoS algorithm | Ed25519 | 2nd Gen Source on: April 05, 2015, 02:40:40 PM
It's interesting people bought it up to 1950 on poloniex when there is more than 15 btc worth for sale below that on bter.

The Bter price is lower due to the increased risk of loss.

To buy on Bter, you cant use your pre-hack BTC to buy XCR, becuz they changed it into BTC-B; a type of IOU.  You need to send actual BTC to Bter.  If you decide not to buy and want your BTC back, will you be able to withdraw it?

287  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Crypti | XCR | Ͼ | PoS algorithm | Ed25519 | 2nd Gen Source on: April 05, 2015, 02:32:17 PM
What will be the difference between Cripti and other DPoS coins (BitSharesX, for example) after DPoS implementation in 0.2.0v?

Short answer:  CLASS & REAL WORLD USEABILITY

Long answer:  Check the Roadmap on the OP, page 1
288  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Crypti | XCR | Ͼ | PoS algorithm | Ed25519 | 2nd Gen Source on: April 05, 2015, 01:54:51 PM
Hey guys

Any update on 0.2.0's release date? I know you guys were discussing the new fee structure, have you come to a decision yet? As for the BTER situation there's currently ~ 23.7 Million XCR left there in both cold and hot wallets. Is all that's left to decide on the new fee structure before launching 0.2.0?

Yeah guys, I've bought a bottle of champagne two weeks ago and still waiting 0.2.0 release to open it.

All the foundation members are testing 0.2 right now, including the windows version.  I cant comment on release dates, as the exchanges are the sticky point. 
289  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Crypti | XCR | Ͼ | PoS algorithm | Ed25519 | 2nd Gen Source on: April 05, 2015, 12:53:21 PM
If I create an account before the blockchain is completely downloaded to my computer, will this account still be a valid account?

Once you create an account by entering your passphrase, it exists in the blockchain.  

The old block chain will be snap shot and used to make the new block chain.

IF you are able to do anything on the old chain after the snap shot, which may be impossible, it will not be part of the new bc.

Since the block chain is being replaced by a new genesis block chain, all 0.2 nodes, and delegates will have to download the new blockchain to function.

There will be a lag time between old and new chains.  Could be as much as 4 hrs.   I hope Tobo does not get all shaky and go into Crypti-withdrawal Syndrome.


290  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Crypti | XCR | Ͼ | PoS algorithm | Ed25519 | 2nd Gen Source on: April 04, 2015, 07:48:30 PM
I was guessing one of those wallets was yours (maybe 728C).....

For the record I've got a sizable amount of Crypti but not as much as 5.4M.  I'm not 584C, 728C or 952C.

I will be very very happy when 1 XCR = $1.   On that day I will quit my job and go get a ice cream sundae to celebrate.

You are a real party animal Mal!!
291  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Crypti | XCR | Ͼ | PoS algorithm | Ed25519 | 2nd Gen Source on: April 04, 2015, 04:12:56 PM
Specific questions I would like discussed at today's dev meeting and hopefully answered here on the forum:
Mal, we value your input and your questions are valid.  I will make sure they are discussed at the meeting today.

Thanks!  Here's two more:

6. What's the Crypsy wallet ID?  

(Polo is 23888C; Bter is 68718C / 43271C.  They're down to under 27M total, hooray!)

Don't know this one...

7. Is there dev interest in "mandating" ultra-cheap node hardware like an ODROID-C1 ( http://www.hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php ) for use by DPoS Delegates to reap the advantages of a uniform, standardized hardware / software setup for ALL key nodes going forward?    

Right now we are not requiring any sort of mandated hardware and we hope to track performance in a way that will give users adequate information to cast an informed vote for delegates.

With that being said, if we did decide to use a mandated custom hardware solution, I would 100% recommend a solution custom built and provided by Bitseed since he is on our Board and we could customize however we wanted with a quick turnaround.




The FOUNDATION is http://live.crypti.me/address/15292791051968645847C

there are other wallets that are created for special projects, like the Node Reward Program and the faucet.  You can see those other wallets in the transaction history of the FOundation wallet.
292  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Crypti | XCR | Ͼ | PoS algorithm | Ed25519 | 2nd Gen Source on: April 04, 2015, 01:13:11 PM
Specific questions I would like discussed at today's dev meeting and hopefully answered here on the forum:

1. What is the proposed dev target level in US dollars of monthly minimum compensation a Founder will hopefully receive from user fees?  

2. What is the proposed dev target level in US dollars of monthly maximum compensation a Founder can receive that would trigger a dev reduction in user fees?

(Anybody risking 10K Crypti in an "election" to claim the reward between these min and max target values - and who must pay for a node out of his own pocket month after month if the target range isn't hit due to low Crypti value / traffic - deserves to know these numbers.)

3. What is the minimum user fee value that the devs believe would hold blockchain spam to an acceptable level?

4. Can the DPoS system theoretically allow Delegates to avoid adding a zero block to the blockchain if there is no transaction activity for a given time, this reducing blockchain bloat?  Will this feature be in 0.2.0?  If not, can it be added as soon as possible to 0.2.X?  

5. Can the DPoS system theoretically allow Delegates to temporarily halt forging when the blockchain hits a certain length and forge a new Genesis block that is cryptographically signed as valid by a large majority of Delegates, with the previous "bloated" blockchain frozen and archived on a public website for audit purposes?  Would this system adequately deal with "blockchain bloat / spam" and eliminate the need for a minimum spam reduction user fee?  Will this feature be in 0.2.0?  If not, can it be added as soon as possible to 0.2.X?  


Mal, we value your input and your questions are valid.  I will make sure they are discussed at the meeting today.  We should be done with it in about 9 hrs from now.
293  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Crypti | XCR | Ͼ | PoS algorithm | Ed25519 | 2nd Gen Source on: April 04, 2015, 01:08:22 PM
Yeah, added supply makes sense (probably x10 or x 20), but 0.5% transfer fee is ridiculous.
Totally agree, I'd go for x100 though. As to .5%, this song is old as life. As I understand heavily loaded accounts will vote for their own delegate(s), thus scooping up transaction fees from entire network => getting richer. What if fees are lowered to 0.01%, do you guys seriously think there will be not enough wallets to fill 101 place? I would sign my AWS for even 0.001%

At 100X present coins, the XCR price would be 10 or 12 satoshi.  Which means that the exchanges would move us to the LTC trading market or the DOGE market.  

It would be better for XCR if the price was in the 5 digits and XCR was listed as a major currency, with its own market where you traded your altcoins directly for XCR.  


As for the question on wallets being enough to vote for 101 delegates.  Please read the post by GreXX on delegates.  Each node can pay 1XCR and then vote for 33 delegates, with a max of 101 votes total (for 4 XCR paid).  Votes can be changed at any time, by removing them from a delegate.  

With the present fee of .5%, the Return on Investment (ROI) for a delegate is when 202 million XCR is traded thru the system, and they have been up 100% of the time.  ALSO..... the 10K registration fee for a delegate is paid to the forging delegates, so the early delegates can make back most of their registration fee with subsequent 111  delegate registrations.  

BTW, all the fees are going to be returned to the community thru projects such as the faucet and the Node Reward Program, which I guess will be renamed the Delegate Reward Program.  
294  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Crypti | XCR | Ͼ | PoS algorithm | Ed25519 | 2nd Gen Source on: April 04, 2015, 12:58:29 PM
I am having trouble finding reasons to justify increasing the supply that aren't greed / monetary based.

On the flip side, you don't have the opportunity to do something like a stock split down the road and if at some point we feel like the supply IS too low, we are stuck with it after this point.

Congrats! You just found a reason that are not greed/monetary based. Wink

Bitcoin will only ever have 21M and its doing fine.


Bitcoin is not doing fine. Initial sync can take two days, a single confirmation one hour, and it uses gigabytes of space. It'll be completely useless 10 years from now, and this is one of the reasons why it's at $250 instead of $1100 by now. It will be replaced by a lean system that loads within 20 seconds, syncs within a minute, and confirms a TX within 30 seconds.


HEY!! We resemble that remark!!
295  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Crypti | XCR | Ͼ | PoS algorithm | Ed25519 | 2nd Gen Source on: April 04, 2015, 01:21:03 AM
Loving all this discussion and passion. And loving how into it the Crypti team is and responds.

I am also for "if it ain't broke don't fix it".
I believe only negative perception can occur from a change in supply.
Even though we are rebooting Crypti, a change in supply is a weak sign
and psychologically unstable in the overall perception of Crypti.

I'm still for much lower fees until someone can explain why .5% make sense.

We can ALWAYS lower the fees, and have a happy community, BUT we can never raise the fees without a very unhappy community.

You guys have forgotten that we got Bter to lower their 1% fee to .5% and now .05%.  That alone has saved a lot of XCR for you all, including a major investor that had 5 million XCR on Bter.  That would have cost 50,000XCR just in the Bter fee to withdraw, but now it is only 2,500..... a savings of 47,500XCR.  

296  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Crypti | XCR | Ͼ | PoS algorithm | Ed25519 | 2nd Gen Source on: April 03, 2015, 07:30:55 PM
The 100 million XCR quantity was decided buy the launch team a year ago.  I was not part of the foundation then. 
297  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Crypti | XCR | Ͼ | PoS algorithm | Ed25519 | 2nd Gen Source on: April 03, 2015, 07:21:31 PM
XCR is now 1200 sats on Polo.  If we multiplied even by 100X, the XCR would be 1 sat.  If we had 10,000X, then XCR would be worth 1 DOGE.

Multiplying Crypti balances by 1000X (not your 100X) would take Crypti from 1200 Sat to 1.2 Sat per Crypti and from 100M to 100B total coins.  DOGE is currently at 52 Sat per DOGE with 100B total coins.  Moving to 10,000X would give Crypti a trillion coins worth 0.12 Sat each.  That would be 1000/7 = 142 Crypti on average for everybody on the planet.  Thinking big is about thinking of everybody on the planet holding Crypti.

Plus, micropayments are the future, so they say...

A new Crypti coin divider value is a side issue.  

Any comments on the idea of DPoS routine regeneration of the Genesis block to control spam and enable 0.0% fees?

1 sat is as low as you can go for BTC trading... most times . once a coin gets to even 5 sats they move it to the LTC or DOGE trading board.

XCR is an 8 decimal coin, just like BTC, so we have 800million Cryptoshis of we needed so many units.

Even if XCR was worth $1000 USD, a Cryptoshi would be worth 0.00001 cents.  
298  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Crypti | XCR | Ͼ | PoS algorithm | Ed25519 | 2nd Gen Source on: April 03, 2015, 05:35:49 PM
Mal,

XCR is now 1200 sats on Polo.  If we multiplied even by 100X, the XCR would be 1 sat.  If we had 10,000X, then XCR would be worth .
1 DOGE
299  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Crypti | XCR | Ͼ | PoS algorithm | Ed25519 | 2nd Gen Source on: April 03, 2015, 03:53:58 PM
You are strange because your reason for this change is for temporary short term price increase like its a game.
Crypti is a real project not a kids coin.
We in the crypto world are waiting for people who think like you to go away before real adoption can begin.

This change will help XCR in the long term growth. It is not for the short term.


But the real reason you are strange is because the coin supply can never be changed.
That was the whole point of bitcoin. The supply is fixed forever and can not be altered by any one or government.

This is a valid point. The timing is debatable now. XCR is still in the beta stage. It  will be much easier to do it before the implementation of DPoS though.

If the coin supply is to be increased or DECREASED, it would be done at the start of DPOS.  The entire block chain is going to be replaced as the existing one is not compatible with the new system.  The 0.1.9 or earlier nodes will not work.
300  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Crypti | XCR | Ͼ | PoS algorithm | Ed25519 | 2nd Gen Source on: April 03, 2015, 01:54:43 PM
The .5% fee still bothers me guys. I know the Crypti Team put a lot of thought into everything they do.
I wouldn't want you to change it just because 4 posts in a row say its too high.
Unless there is a really higher level thought process going into the .5% that you don't want to reveal I don't see it working.

Because Crypti is young and has little activity you want to reward delegates with a .5% fee.
Anybody running as a delegate now has to be doing it to support their investment in Crypti.
Its later on when we have high value and activity that a delegate will run for income.
So a high .5% fee now is unnecessary and will only turn off anyone looking into Crypti for the first time.

I was looking at blockchain.info. Look at all those transactions coming every second.
I know you guys said if we ever get to bitcoin level of activity the fee will reduce.
But bitcoin doesn't charge a %. Its a miner fee of .0001.
That means if you send one bitcoin it cost you .01% compared to Crypti's .5%.
If you send 10 bitcoins that same .0001 fee is only .001%.

Nxt from the beginning had 1 Nxt fee and even that was debated as being too high for a long time.
If you really like the flat % thing and have a reason for it then I feel it must be something significantly lower.
It has to be lower than .1%. To me .05% is still high but reasonable and won't turn off newcomers (.01% is better).
And when Crypti has a rise in value and usage, it should be lowered further.

Sending 100,000 Nxt costs 1 Nxt. At 100M supply Crypti's equivalent is sending 10,000 Xcr at .5% costs 50 xcr. Its only 5 xcr at .05%.
We should start at .05% and lower it to .01% when we're at 30-50M market cap.
But at the very very least if you dislike .05% then .1%. I mean .5% just sounds so high.

We have had discussions about having a max cap on fees.  Meeting is tomorrow, and this will be on the agenda.  We are responsive to the concerns and suggestions of the community.  This is your coin too.

As for comparing with NXT, bear in mind that to forge in NXT, you need thousands of $ worth of NXT.  ANd with a 1 NXT fee, the forgers never earn enough NXT to make it profitable, or even worthwhile.

With XCR, you only need 1000XCR now to forge.  With the DPOS delegates, you can forge with 0 XCR in your delegate, as long as you have enough votes from nodes to place you in the top 101 delegates.

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