I think bitcoin offers numerous benefits to governments (as well as banks and other companies). As a result, I do forsee a day when some governments and established companies actually begin running mining farms for the express purpose of securing the network.
You are correct unless you are using a central bank like the Federal Reserve that can print endless amounts of paper fiat currency.
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I find it odd that it is now Tuesday and there hasn't been a single Bitcoin Show when since Monday now there should have been three shows total.
I just checked their live feed and there is a message saying "Up Next: The Bitcoin Show 2pm" and that was at 215pm Eastern Standard Time.
Usually Bruce and Manny would be all over this MyBitcoin.com story just like the Mt. Gox Hack and other breaking stories.
Any thoughts?
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I beg to differ based on the first amendment. He can say whatever he chooses and I suggest you reread his first sentence.
My point is that it is better to be constructive. His solution "keep it on a local machine" is just as bad advice (at least for most people). What if your hdd crashes? Do you make backups? After every send? Are they stored safe enough or can other people find it there? Do you encrypt it? What if you lose the key? And so on. This is a hard problem. Most solutions that work against loss do not work against theft, and vice verse. To prevent losing your wallet you want to mirror and distribute it to as many places as possible. However, to keep it from being stolen/hacked you want to put it only in one place and heavily encrypt it. AGREED! I too believe people need to be smart about their investments and if they are not smart enough to find someone they trust to be smart enough for them to secure their investment.
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third biggest exchange loses all it's coin Someone really believe they "lost" 17000btc? Any sane person would have created an offline backup. So I'm with you, I think it's just an excuse to say that they don't have the BTC. I sure am glad I learned my lesson after the mt. gox hack and kept my btc offline and in my possession.
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GOOD GOD!? Were they really the 3rd largest?
Yeah I remember Bruce Wagner not long ago on The Bitcoin Show asking his guest at the time if they knew who was the third largest.
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So... now you're gloating that lots of people lost their coins and you still have them? Do you feel proud? Do you feel lucky? Should we be laughing if you fail the next "test"?
It's already bad enough, there is no need for a zillion topics rubbing it in to them. It has already happened, and the people involved are obviously aware that they made a mistake.
There is no need for rude and unfriendly comments like yours. Can we at least pretend to keep the community a nice place?
Storing your wallet in a safe way (both against theft and loss) is not exactly easy nor user friendly at the moment. Even for the tech-savy it's hard. Please contribute to solving this problem instead of kicking dead horses...
I beg to differ based on the first amendment. He can say whatever he chooses and I suggest you reread his first sentence.
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We have a lot of bitcoin there..... ( as has already been reported in the press )... Many -- perhaps most -- non-technical people... and businesses, I know and associate with,.... rely on MyBitcoin.com
Most of my friends and family and associates.... all have all their bitcoin there too.
I hope it is back up tomorrow.
There needs to be a better way to store your bitcoins if you are not technically savvy. I was affected by the mt. gox hack and never ever leave my bitcoins or funds on their servers. Anyone know what happened to mybitcoin.com in regards to why they are down?
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NameCoin is just another produce in the market like all products that are different item people place their own value in them for various reasons. NC is not inflation of BTC as it's not BTC thus it's like this copper and silver are like gold and can be used as money but the are not gold.
For now yes, but come block 240000, NC will look just like a second supply of BTC. It's like digging for gold and magically every ounce of gold will also produce an ounce of ruby/sapphire/whatever. Initially they may stay at their respective prices but soon people are going to realize NC is functionally equivalent to BTC and costs the same to produce. It won't matter if the original intention is to use them to purchase domain names. If you really believe this then you will sell all of your BTC for NMC and watch your net value at least quadruple in the coming months after merged mining is implemented.
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can you free ship to China?
What method would I ship? UPS? Fed Ex?
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Hmm, what processor does it have? And what clocks did you have the cards at? Temps?
AMD Athlon II Multi-Core Processor Clocks were at the default 800 MHz. Temps were at 65C to 75C.
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85 BTC. Shipping included to any of the 48 contiguous states.
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MSI 890FXA-GD70 motherboard (five pci-e 16 slots) AMD Athlon II Multi-Core Processor 250 GB SATA HD Kingston 2GB DDR3 Toughpower 1350W powersupply 3 x Power Color HD Radeon 6950 1GB Cards Runs at about 1 GH/s. Bought this rig about a month and a half ago been running 24/7 with no crazy overclocks. Original Packaging included and free shipping included to any of the contiguous 48 United States. Asking price is $850. PM me and I will give you my contact information for us to finalize transaction and for me to get your shipping information. I will ship via USPS with signature confirmation.
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Just curious is all. How do you see namecoin in the long run playing out?
Bitcoin will drag it along or it will beat out bitcoin because it's required to buying domain names why bitcoin has no other function except as a currency or the perception as money. BTW Gold and silver is money and nothing else. Agreed.
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You are right in my opinion, which is why there is further development for namecoin to be done. I suspect the majority of the development will not take more than 6 to 9 months to get up to speed. Bitcoin has given namecoin a handicap in that much of the ideas and market and people are in places to make bitcoin and namecoin explode soon enough.
Maybe it's just me and my limited imagination but at this point I feel it's very unlikely for namecoin to work out as intended beyond use for a small group of people, namely geeks. The way I see it, we'll need to convince ISPs to do extra work for no benefits to them (i.e. to their profits) in order for this to work. But if this requires ISP cooperation to work, then namecoin's strength as a resilient distributed DNS vanishes as it is reliant on ISPs cooperation. So any ISP (or the government of that country) can simply block off lookups to a particular domain say wikileaks.bit and render the service useless to the majority of their users who probably never heard of DNS, much less know/bother to get around such blocks. There is one possible way namecoin could work out (and for that matter bitcoin could get boosted by the same), is the porn industry. After all, people are willing to pay money, install dubious dialers and whatever not to get their porn fix, they will probably be willing to do something that doesn't cost anything to get access to more porn, and pay for content with bitcoins so anybody looking at their CC bills won't be able tell p.s. side note: dot-bit.org seems to be dead, not a good sign You have good points but keep in mind that namecoin is identicle to bitcoin in terms of its structure as a virtual currency. When people want an alternative, which usually happens at some point people will get into namecoins. Competition is what makes a free market a free market and that is why the fiat currencies like the dollar have really no competition that isn't already fraudulent (counterfeit) and thus monopolizes the entire USA. Namecoins as a secondary (maybe not as strong as bitcoin) virtual currency is very viable in my opinion.
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Which is precisely my point. For somebody like me, it's an easy thing to do (I use my own internal TLD for testing purposes). But until a .bit domain can be resolved out of the box by the average person, I don't see it being useful except as an alternative Bitcoin currency. So regardless of the original intentions, namecoin will simply become a second supply of bitcoin, especially when merged mining take effect. You are right in my opinion, which is why there is further development for namecoin to be done. I suspect the majority of the development will not take more than 6 to 9 months to get up to speed. Bitcoin has given namecoin a handicap in that much of the ideas and market and people are in places to make bitcoin and namecoin explode soon enough.
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You are looking at ONE pool and I am looking at the ENTIRE namecoin network. There are other pools you know...bitparking, pool munity etc.
There are not that many. The birth and death of pools IS important in the start. I hope this is not how you treat your children. Take some time to go back to school, learn some manners, lose the attitude, "and then come talk to me". If you can't take an opinion that diverges from yours in a polite manner, then it is me who turns my back on you, as i'm way above that sort of behaviour (this is me trying to be as cocky as you. Did i succeed? not sure, i'm not used to it). Xoo. LOL did you even look at the link I posted and respond intelligently to what I posted that proves your "theory"wrong of the average going down the toilet when at the very least the average is 6 blocks per hour? Or did you not want to be embarrassed that you were wrong? Also the number of pools is irrelevant which is why I gave you the link to block explorer. If you dont like the way I talk to you, you can go to another thread you know? LOL
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Right but I can only go on the data I have and that is the time since inception and the number of blocks generated.
Make sense?
Oh, indeed it does make sense, you have to consider the raw data you have at any given point in time, albeit still very.. hm... 'volatile', due to still being not very far away from its inception. Still on namebit: Current Round Duration 35h 35m Last Round Duration 00h 19m Avg Time Per Round 03h 25m As soon as this hog finishes, there goes the average down the drain.. You are looking at ONE pool and I am looking at the ENTIRE namecoin network. There are other pools you know...bitparking, pool munity etc. Take a look at http://explorer.dot-bit.org/ and then come talk to me. Let me spell it out for you. We are currently at block 18255 on july 26th. It has been about 98 days or so since the namecoin network starting. 98 days = 2352 hours 18255 / 2352 = 7.76 blocks per hour Let's say this difficulty period doesnt end for another 40 days (138 days total): 138 days = 3312 hours The last block of this difficulty is 18144 + 2016 = 20160 20160 / 3312 = 6.08 blocks per hour. Then of course we rip through another difficulty of 2016 blocks which brings the average up. My point is even if we assume any average above 6 blocks per hour from now until the end of the year that implies a huge movement in the decrease (price) of purchasing a domain name and possibly the price to exchange NMC.
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Right but I can only go on the data I have and that is the time since inception and the number of blocks generated.
Make sense?
Oh, indeed it does make sense, you have to consider the raw data you have at any given point in time, albeit still very.. hm... 'volatile', due to still being not very far away from its inception. Still on namebit: Current Round Duration 35h 35m Last Round Duration 00h 19m Avg Time Per Round 03h 25m As soon as this hog finishes, there goes the average down the drain.. You are looking at ONE pool and I am looking at the ENTIRE namecoin network. There are other pools you know...bitparking, pool munity etc. Take a look at http://explorer.dot-bit.org/ and then come talk to me.
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The developers of NameCoin can do what the want to do. I am saying that first because you will not hear it when I say what I have to say. This is not a good idea. Why? 1. NameCoin's difficulty will increase with out the market deciding if it's a good idea or not. 2. Perception is EVERYTHING and although it's not true that namecoin will cause inflation to bitcoin that's how it will be perceived. On a personal note I like getting lots of namecoins with me 12 Ghashs I don't want to share with deepbit's 4 THashs!!! LOL Just my 2 bit cents. Davinci BTW I think the fact that namecoin is only traded with bitcoins helps bitcoins increase in value as there is 1 thing on the market that can only be purchased with bitcoins. Not right now but soon. Why? Are you using all 12 GH/s to mine Namecoins? Just curious is all. How do you see namecoin in the long run playing out?
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