So., erm, Maidsafe is working on a decentralized internet.  If your Safecoin has literally nothing in common with them then what benefits over that are we talking?  

And I am not sure Monero (Which is not Bytecoin) has failed just yet as stated in the OP. It started less than a week ago.

I am not sure about anything else as you say that there is much more 'benchmarking' and 'debating' to be done.

I'm not trying to bust chops but there is some information that seems not true or not accurate or however you might want to put it...

I would like to see proof that he is a part of Staff and the acceptance of said racism by the developers of Maidsafe prior to attributing racism to the entire project.  Especially since David Irvine, the head of Maidsafe, tweeted the following -


Other tweets from his account certainly suggest the opposite of racism.

If he is an idiot on staff (rawdog) than perhaps that should be addressed but I certainly don't think that it is representative of the project.

So I stand by what I stated...I see a lot of ad homs and wasn't going to believe a guy who said something in one post on the internet-especially a guy who posted the following on a Maidsafe/Mt. Gox thread -


Credible troll is credible?

If so, please show me.

Not sure what you are intending with the link to that particular page.  I see a lot of bickering and not a lot of comprehension.  

For one, the IPO seemed like it was underestimated.  I actually woke up in the middle of the night to participate.  But many did not.  While I used BTC as I had no desire to go through Mastercoin, even I had no idea it would go so fast - I just wanted to be a part of what the Maidsafe is doing (seriously, read their material; good times).

For two, transferring Maidsafe is not easy now as it requires a wallet capable of transferring Smart Property which I am thinking Maidsafe, as a proxy coin, is classified as.  As far as I understand, version 4 of Master Wallet will indeed fix that problem as is mentioned on that page though I don't know when.  Remember, the IPO was intended to last 30 days and all of the technical aspects of transferring Maidsafe is presumed to have been done in that time, so technically, that aspect is still on schedule.

For three, I participated because I knew that this was a long term project.  I didn't expect anything to happen overnight and while the IPO did, until Maidsafe is integrated into other exchanges/is user friendly like other alt coins, the rest of it is going to need to catch up and that might not happen until Maidsafe is exchanged for the proper and USEFUL Safecoin.

So.  That is my answer. I still don't know what the intended page link was supposed to convey but it sounds like a lot off topic and ad hominems.  

When will MasterCoin Wallet v 4 be released....I thought it was today.  Until it is released there is no easy way to transfer Maidsafe...

Yes. 

No worries and I mean it wholeheartedly.  I think a lot of the dialogue and criticism (which is putting it mildly in some cases) in this thread is overlapped by the very many people who are here for speculative means only and have not afforded themselves the luxury of familiarizing themselves with the available information on the people, intentions and product of Maidsafe.

So yeah...go kick ass and take names (not literally of course).  Decentralized internet sounds pretty useful...

Just wanted to say major props to the Maidsafe team.  I especially appreciate the mind toward community and am looking forward to seeing what you guys can do. 

I think that one of the major issues is that MSAFE is still a proxy coin that will be exchanged for Safecoin in the nearish future.  Couple that with the fact that the proxy coin is not very user friendly and is difficult for the average user and I am not surprised people are unloading at this point.

I think there will be a different story when everything is up and running.  For now...I might even just leave the few MSafe I acquired on the QT wallet and wait to even see them properly when the Mastercoin wallet catches up or until its time to exchange for Safecoiin proper.

Cool...thanks guys.  I'll worry about moving them when they get here. No real intention to do that immediately...

I have a potentially n00b question.  I used a Bitcoin QT wallet to send my Bitcoin.  I had no reason to think that I needed to do otherwise based on what I read.  So I should receive the Maidsafe coins in that wallet, right?  Or did I need a Mastercoin wallet?  I'm not worried about their process; they update their progress consistently on safecoin.io and I have received what I think was part of the testing of their automated dispersal...I am just wondering now (Lolz if it is too late) if I should have used a Mastercion wallet...

I don't. Decentralized internet is a huge step.

I didn't think they would be accepting any more BTC when I woke up in my timezone.  And apparently the only reason they were is because of the decision to buy out the remaining MSC in order to allow for continued BTC purchases...so technically they sold out before I woke up.

More Fraggle Rock meets the Renaissance Faire...


I was aware of Maidsafe months before this and heard of them at about the same time as Ethereum.  It should be noted that Ethereum postponed there IPO in January because of community concerns and that this particular IPO happened so fast that it is reasonable to say that there was little to done to anticipate this amount of demand.  Ethereum is likely watching this very closely to see what worked and what didn't and as well a gauging point for demand.  

This isn't something new that just happened; many have been waiting months for this.  For the record...since I don't want this to be any more about Ethereum...I like what Maidsafe is doing better and that is why I am here saying what I am.

If people don't put the effort out to do the research then I can't really defend the logic behind reactionary posts.  That isn't intended to be derogatory...just a statement of fact.

Long time lurker.  Lots to be said for Lurking MOAR...

Because reading and stuff...


Apologies to the thread - I am off topic and will not continue it.  Thank you.

I'll say, "Forflaggern shorfuentifn...sdhuewiudjkn!!!"

Because that is what English sounds like in the alternate universe you seem to be proposing...

DIrvine is stout...little effort to verify and Maidsafe is way more than a BC clone which is what WC is and seemingly the basis of your expertise.  Cheers!

Could you please provide a link in this thread when the site is updated?

They said it would take approximately 24 hours for BTC addresses to be credited if I am not mistaken...