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1101  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 05, 2015, 10:03:36 AM
I'm not the best person to explain how noncepool is not a public pool and how SPR disincentivizes public pools.

Maybe if we change (no pools) to (no public pools), this may shut some fuders up.

Precisely.  Its not FUD to say there are pools, because there are!  However, anybody who understands how SPR works understands that public pools are discouraged and that is the main goal.  If SPR drops the no pool claim (because it is outright untrue) and explains clearly the difference between private and public pools and then maybe some of what you call the FUDders will quieten down. 

What's you're definition of a pool?
1102  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 05, 2015, 09:16:30 AM

Pools owners will setup SPR pools if is possible (to make money from fee), but an miner can steal an block found by himself and pool will run out of bussiness shortly. It's a lot of pool operators and they want to make money if is possible. spr.noce-pool have now 4 miners. I have more mining to my wallet ....



That make's you a pool operator, using their logic.  Roll Eyes
1103  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 05, 2015, 08:29:00 AM
I'm not the best person to explain how noncepool is not a public pool and how SPR disincentivizes public pools.

Maybe if we change (no pools) to (no public pools), this may shut some fuders up.
1104  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 05, 2015, 08:25:52 AM
Be sure to join the new thread!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=945972

You can have this thread back.

I made my point.

I have better things to do than spend my time with a spreadcoin thread.   

People will make their own decisions.

I would wish you luck with your endeavor.  But I don't.





I will keep posting this question until one of you paranoid delusional freak's answer.

If i have two farms in the same building and point them both to the same miner... I'm i a pool operator?

Right. Solo mining can be called a private pool or mini pool. I can point my miners from different location to one wallet, and my friends if they want and we trust each other.



This does not make a public pool.
1105  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 05, 2015, 08:11:39 AM
Be sure to join the new thread!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=945972

You can have this thread back.

I made my point.

I have better things to do than spend my time with a spreadcoin thread.    

People will make their own decisions.

I would wish you luck with your endeavor.  But I don't.





I will keep posting this question until one of you paranoid delusional freak's answer.

If i have two farms in the same building and point them both to the same miner... I'm i a pool operator?
What if farmers all over the world can point their rigs to the same pool ? Is that a pool or not ? Grin

This is not allowed on nonce pool. Its a closed, trusted group of friends.

Go try to mine on noncepool.
So technically,you must admit that spr no-pool feature is untitled.

No

The "no-pool" feature disincentivizes pools by allowing miners to be able to steal other miners coins, ie (trusted people only!), not entitled?!.
This is a genius, simple solution to force people to mine solo.

Nowhere does it say "pool's are not allowed in the whitepaper"? And i was never under the impression that you couldn't set a "pool" up.

The thing is, the "pool" would have serious difficulties with security, and would be financially/economically nonviable.

Infact, the SPR community has a bounty for whomever can setup and successfully run a public pool for 30 days. I think the bounty is 3500SPR!
1106  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 05, 2015, 07:46:22 AM
Be sure to join the new thread!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=945972

You can have this thread back.

I made my point.

I have better things to do than spend my time with a spreadcoin thread.    

People will make their own decisions.

I would wish you luck with your endeavor.  But I don't.





I will keep posting this question until one of you paranoid delusional freak's answer.

If i have two farms in the same building and point them both to the same miner... I'm i a pool operator?
What if farmers all over the world can point their rigs to the same pool ? Is that a pool or not ? Grin

This is not allowed on nonce pool. Its a closed, trusted group of friends.

Go try to mine on noncepool.
1107  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 05, 2015, 07:32:05 AM
Be sure to join the new thread!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=945972

You can have this thread back.

I made my point.

I have better things to do than spend my time with a spreadcoin thread.    

People will make their own decisions.

I would wish you luck with your endeavor.  But I don't.





I will keep posting this question until one of you paranoid delusional freak's answer.

If i have two farms in the same building and point them both to the same miner... I'm i a pool operator?
1108  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 04, 2015, 09:10:34 PM
If you have suggestions for content to add to the FAQ here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=945972.msg10359173#msg10359173 or suggestions for edits, please speak up.

Please add the current "pool" situation to the FAQ.

Show how the whitepaper clearly describes how pools are possible but not financially viable.

Also add how nonce pool works (trusted people only/public pool would be robbed)
1109  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 04, 2015, 05:37:36 PM
Nothing changes.  The rich get richer and the poor get screwed.  It's a fact of life and spreadcoin is no different.    

Ahaha, maybe you should go earn some money instead of wanting everything handed to you on a plate you lazy oaf? Or emigrate to one of those socialist utopias like Venezuela... just bring plenty of your own toilet paper.  Cheesy

Coffee and suger too if you fancy a brew, that is!  Cheesy


And some cooking oil if you plan on cooking something.  Cheesy

YOU filthy capitalist pig you!

I am an anarcho-capitalist whore and proud of it, thank you very much.  Wink

 Cheesy  Cool
1110  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 04, 2015, 05:08:09 PM
Nothing changes.  The rich get richer and the poor get screwed.  It's a fact of life and spreadcoin is no different.    

Ahaha, maybe you should go earn some money instead of wanting everything handed to you on a plate you lazy oaf? Or emigrate to one of those socialist utopias like Venezuela... just bring plenty of your own toilet paper.  Cheesy

Coffee and suger too if you fancy a brew, that is!  Cheesy
1111  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 04, 2015, 04:58:51 PM
How about playing a game ?  
Let's predict when spr will die (price below 100 satoshi) .
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Me first,  before July ,2015 . Wink

Nah you didn't forget anything. Ignored.
1112  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 04, 2015, 04:54:22 PM
Exactly, not to mention that ponzinodes are a centralized approach.  They take the "True peer to peer" out of the coin.

Incorrect.

A Masternode is just a wallet (node)  - that's connected in the network exactly like any other wallet (node) - that meets certain criteria and provides additional functionality.
In the long run,this kind of mechanism will keep both the price and nethashrate lower and lower ,bcz spr mn operators get spr without any cost.
The market has already made respond to this mechanism .

Again.

What do you mean SPR MN operators get SPR without any cost?
You forget, a MN operator has to buy the amount of SPR needed to run a stable MN to get teez FrEee SPRz.

Also the cost of VPS and personal time spent maintaining a MN.

Thinking before talking is hard, i know!
1113  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 04, 2015, 04:37:05 PM
pool mining,instamine,raped by super fast gpu miner,....

And now you have revealed yourself as just another idiot parroting nonsense, lies, and hyperbole. Ignored.
See ?

See, what?

What you said is wrong. It's FUD.
Answer me this,

If I have two GPU farms in the same building and I point both farms to the same computer using this so called "noncepool",
would I be running a pool?
1114  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 02, 2015, 11:21:33 PM
Then just wait for more development?
Wait for something that interests you in spr, and then invest?
Why all the blabber?

That's all I am getting at. If something exciting comes to the table, I'll reconsider. I just wanted clarification of what utility is provided in justifying the existence of the coin as it currently stands. The same can be said about 99% of the altcoins out there.

Well if 3.5Gh solo mining and the prospect of darkcoins features being added doesn't interest you, then maybe some of MrSpread's own creations for the masternode network will.

MrSpread is one of very few people who actually understand's darkcoins masternode code, i have no doubt he will have his own ideas and uses for the transaction locking system.

Would be nice to see you on board oblox.
1115  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 02, 2015, 11:14:53 PM
Anyone willing to take me up on the operation of a public spr mining pool... Please msg me Wink

Currently 100 spr up for grabs.
1116  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 02, 2015, 11:11:13 PM
Oblox just admit it's a possible threat to you. Since it plans on using Darkcoin's code and features. Thats why you are here asking questions. period  Like we all did when first discovering it.

No, it's not. It doesn't serve a purpose over using BTC. Blindly investing it because it happens to have masternodes doesn't change the fact that there is no utility in the coin over BTC. I'm asking questions hoping someone here is knowledge on something I am missing to justify throwing any money into it. Frankly, I have yet to see a reason to.
Okay here is a quick question then how long did it take DarkCoin to start having utility behind it? Or was DarkCoin created and it was instantly merchant accepted and held value right off the hop? The fact is that SpreadCoin is still new and being developed and I have urged the community lots for us to start marketing the coin and promoting this coin for more adoption from the masses.  I still don't understand why you are even posting in this thread if you have no intention whatsoever of investing in this coin?

It was created to fill a void, thus creating utility. Spreadcoin isn't filling any voids. All I have heard is decentralization babble but in the grand scheme of things, people don't care. I love the idea of decentralization but people actually using the currency don't care. A currency has to be used for it to have any value whatsoever (be it transacted or store of value). If that's your sole pitch for this coin, it's dead in high water. Maybe I'll eat crow months down the road but I have a sneaking suspicion I'll be right.

As for why I am here, maybe I would get to the point of throwing some money at it but I'm not seeing anything to justify doing so.

Then just wait for more development?
Wait for something that interests you in spr, and then invest?

Why all the blabber?
1117  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 02, 2015, 11:08:02 PM
the coin is still being developed. Who knows what will come of it. Sort of like Darkcoin when we first saw it as Xcoin. And it evolved and developed into the coin we know today. Im sure many people had some of the same questions.

Fair enough but the difference is that Darkcoin (or Xcoin as it originally was) set out to fill a void that Bitcoin did not fill. I'm simply asking what void SPR fills to differentiate itself from Bitcoin. Again, the end user doesn't care what algo secures the coin or whether it was mined via pools or not.

The main theme behind spreadcoin is decentralization.

In whatever form it can be achieved and extended.
("No Pools" is merely the first example of this)

Mr. Spread has already mentioned many times that darksend is not something he wants to implement, instead he (and the community) will take a different route.

Anonymity is not the main goal of spreadcoin, but decentralization.

What is MrSpread decentralizing though, a currency.
We must have fungability in the currency, and for that we need anonymity.

Although it is not immediately essential, it is something I think is critical in the long term!
1118  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 02, 2015, 10:54:59 PM

The sad irony of it is there are more credit/debit card fraud annually and hacks surrounding fiat currencies than the sum of all the crypto frauds/thefts.
It is sad but that's the sad truth about Crypto right now is that it's unregulated and pretty much people can just get away with ripping other people off.  That's what turns so many people away from Crypto in the first place

It comes back to educating people that private keys are as good as cash and that trusting a third party (example, an exchange) means you really don't "own" the coins. The no-recourse in terms of chargebacks is a double-edged sword. As for other scams like ponzi's guaranteeing to double your money (cryptodouble)...those are a dead giveaway that people are going to lose coins. While they may not be regulated expansively, anyone running these sorts of games stateside should be aware of the SEC taking notice.

If spreadcoin remains to be practically 100% solo mining and adds all of darkcoin's features, spreadcoin will become my currency of choice.
I'm not going to be the only one.
1119  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 02, 2015, 08:10:52 PM
Troll Challenge: start an open registration SPR pool so we can all see how long it takes one person to sweep all the mined coins and run off. Smiley

Trolls, don't you think the major pools would have done so by now if it were feasible?

Ill give 100 SPR to anyone willing to operate a puplic SPR pool.
1120  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 02, 2015, 07:43:08 PM
I am seeing rainbows and unicorns.

Yawn, This user is currently ignored.
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