Debug window shows 1462 masternodes... Is this the hacker back with new tricks?
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I'm showing zero at the moment. "version" : 101401, "protocolversion" : 70038, "walletversion" : 60001, 16:45:25  masternode count 16:45:25  880 I'm going to let the new update finish downloading blockchain and will see how many masternodes are showing on new version. |
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Debug window shows 1462 masternodes... Is this the hacker back with new tricks?
15:27:58

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To look at the on book order flow presently isn't entirely a great reflection of what will be in the future.
I agree with you. I understand how this works. My point is this: If you are just barely breathing, and then try to hold your breath for 3 minutes... There comes a point of no return. Maybe if you had been breathing normally up to that point, you could have pulled it off. But you're already starved for oxygen, and now you try to hold your breath for 3 minutes... The market is already barely alive. Cutting off supply isn't going to have the usual effect of driving up value, and we've witnessed this to be true. People are just staying out. Look at Doge. Why can it hold value in useless pump of extreme inflationary coin? The extreme inflationary nature means it has liquidity... People can buy it and then use it without fucking themselves out of position. We should stop seeing what we want to see and look at what is actually happening. The evidence is right there... We're just not seeing it because we think we know how this shit works. Clearly, we don't know what we think we know or doge would be 0.00000001 - it's not. So, the rules we think we know clearly aren't applying. We're decreasing liquidity at a time when there is already a death rattle as a result of not enough liquidity... Maybe I'm overstating it. I'm not trying to claim that what I'm saying is the path we're on. It sure a shit looks like it... But it looks like PPC should have a market cap of 0. It doesn't... So, what things look like, according the the rules we think we know; it isn't working that way. Crypto changed the fundamental way we thought about money, but I think we have arrived at the wrong conclusions because what we thought we knew is not happening, at all, not even close. Well 10 out of 10 for persistence Camo in trying to get your point across! I absolutely agree with you. It's a lovely notion that we might end up with 3000 MNs and far less coins in circulation as a result with DRK's price increasing substantially (and MN payments being higher; amongst other factors) but if liquidity isn't there, your examples of a potential user of DRK avoiding it because of the costs of getting hold of enough DRK to perform their transaction outweighing the benefits are a real issue. I know that BTC has gone through many phases in its progression from pure speculative play to being used to transact with, and it still has a long pathway to go before it's truly acting as a "currency", but it's essential we focus on DRK being usable for people to transact anonymously with and they can't do that for any reasonably large sums as it currently stands. If someone wanted to move US$100K anonymously using DRK, their buy (and subsequent sell which everyone would cry "dumper...!" at) would shift the price substantially. So it's currently just not usable for its intended function and we need to get it to be. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts Evan Duffield on this important facet of DRK's economic make-up. Again, in time liquidity will increase. The volume isn't there and the adoption isn't there for anyone going to try to move $100k right now (DRK isn't even at that stage yet). Until we start seeing >1000 BTC volume days, we are at the mercy of an anemic altcoin market. I think it's poor for anyone to make long-term views on liquidity assumptions with how thin order books are presently, as if they will always remain that way. Certainly, if that's the case, no altcoin is going to survive. In theory, the BTC ETF should bring fresh capital into the crypto markets and we'd see spillage into the altcoins, DRK being one that should see benefit to this. At 3000 MN's and just using today's supply of around 4.8M coins, that leaves 1.8 million coins for trading, but it's naive to think of that as low available liquidity. There is actually 180,000,000,000,000 units available from all the duffs out there. Are you telling me this amount isn't sufficient for daily volume?? I think it's poor for anyone to make long-term views on liquidity assumptions with how thin order books are presently, as if they will always remain that way.
Not suggesting the current level of liquidity will always remain; just wanting to stimulate conversation on this, as per Camo's commentary. I believe DRK will eventually have great liquidity and be very useful, but maybe there are ideas (like illodin's) that could accelerate DRK's ability to be used for more than just the current speculative focus. At 3000 MN's and just using today's supply of around 4.8M coins, that leaves 1.8 million coins for trading, but it's naive to think of that as low available liquidity
No, I'm not thinking that. I know that the divisibility down to 8 decimal places creates a lot of room for movement in value. The essence of what I'm interested in is the pathway DRK needs to travel to see dramatically improved liquidity, to the point where large amounts of fiat can be converted without it causing massive spikes in the price. I think we'll have more liquidity, I'll try to breakdown the argument: 1.) Let's say we have 3000 masternodes and a 400M marketcap. Masternodes enjoy 50% of the total coins mined. Lets say there's 6 million coins, so that's $66.60 per coin on the exchanges. 2.) The total masternode network will make 1440 coins a day (576*5*.50 = 1440) 3.) How much of those coins do they sell? 30%? If that's true, each day there will be 0.3*1440*66.6 worth of coins for sale. So we can do $28771 worth of business a day with no premium. TLDR; A higher market cap means more people can buy things without any premium to use DRK. Also, if there's 50k of business happening a day the price will just go up, allowing more business to be done. This isn't including the other 50% miners mine. So using the same example, there should be $57542 daily liquidity at 400M market cap. Its a very good conversation you are all having, but its all very simple. Darkcoin has a marketcap of 10 million dollars! In what universe would a currency worth 10million total, handle a daily transaction of hundreds of thousands of dollars without effecting the marketcap? Surly due to supply and demand the marketcap would rise to a level that is considered "worth it". Eg, Coinbase start to block transactions to say a (poker site) and people want to play poker, they can just use dark and pay what they consider to be worth playing poker online. This tells me Darkcoin atm is just not in demand and explains the low market cap, which then results in someone not being able to transact the 100,000s of dollars you are talking about. Marketcap will rise with use of Darkcoin, allowing bigger transactions to take place. |
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So this means three more weeks of XwzmEE1cJ6HG84CgJvAt7ADmJ8W9Wh65Tq and XixmyNSGGGXEJEzKghoRnTto5ZVhficSek getting paid for their existing loopholes due to pools not upgrading, right?
eduffield
The first address is using the pubkey exploit and will be killed as soon as the network updates.
The second address is a miner who's just cheating by paying the same exact address every time. He'll be killed in three weeks.
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it's a good coin but it's downfall is it's distribution + community hates negative comments about this coin and ignore you without really debating with you If there are sensible points to debate then we'll debate. I don't know how many posts I've made on technical / economic subjects in the last 2 months. 2-tier architecture vs 1-tier, support for legacy commercial interfaces vs revised ones, the economics of fiat vs crypto and which cryptos are in a position to benefit, the merits of counting vs not counting masternode holdings towards marketcap, privacy vs anonymity and the "libertarian argument", speculative vs real value.... I could go on and on. Theres a ton of things you could be challenging. Yet all people ever come up with is: - "the price keeps falling and everyone on here said it was going to the moon" - "we can't take any criticism" - "there are big holders due to instamine" You people sure know how to give a guy a migrane. Change the record ffs or come up with some semi-informed commentary. I for one am not responsible for the price and unless it goes to zero, I don't really give a sh*t what it is at this point in the coin's life. Also be advised this is an [ANN] thread and if you don't expect holders to be championing the coin for all it's worth during a big rise then go and read the Financial Times for investment advice. Hail tok +1 |
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I've started to see what Darkcoin is all about now. It never meant to be for every one Worldwide currency like I thought when I invested in this coin; it's a good coin but it's downfall is it's distribution + community hates negative comments about this coin and ignore you without really debating with you. Also this mess with Mintpal biggest Darkcoin exchange took out volume and it's like scattered everywhere some went to Bitfinex others to Cryptsy or Bittrex it's sad really.
Bring a vaguely thought out point to debate, we'll debate. It's difficult to have an intelligent conversation with idiots. Not a single thing you just posted makes any sense whatsoever.  Whats sad is that you spend your time writing such nonsense. Lone is right. 1. Distribution - Evan released the coin with linux only mining. If you had linux you could early mine with Evan no problem. It wasn't some sort of secret club or something. So if you didn't use linux, you missed out on the early mine. There was 0 pre-mine (where the coin is released and block number 1 has a large amount of coins for the owner). 2.Community "hates negative comments about this coin and ignore you without really debating with you". Not true. The community give their own money towards a code review specifically to say bad things about darkcoin. (In the form of reporting bugs, which can then be quashed ). You say things that are practically irrelevant or plain incorrect. You should research this darkcoin thing more, and atleast come back with some good trollzing, because that's what i think your doing. Just tro11zin6 uz. |
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Somebody sells 9k Drk and people are having kittens? Seriously?
For every sell there is a buy. Price will kick up a touch in a minute anyway.
agreed. Buy up the cheap sell orders and hold for a bright future. I know DRK is the future of crypto and these devs. are always on top of things. Don't worry about daily price changes and just work on spreading DRK to new places. I am planing a cross-country road trip just for promoting Bitcoin (And maybe Darkcoin) in the spring of 2015! I will be driving over 5,000 miles around the heart of the U.S.A. and my RV will be covered with Bitcoin (and maybe Darkcoin) logo's and stickers. I plan to spread a metric ton of stickers, pens, shirts and beer cozies with the Bitcoin (and maybe Darkcoin) logo. I plan to leave from New York and going to the California coast and back to New York (+5,000 Miles, +18 states). I am just now working on all the numbers and stops for this trip but the main purpose of this trip is to spread bitcoin (and darkcoin) around the country . By the time I make it to Cali, I might be able to get on the local news stations and radio. So I see many great new things for Bitcoin & Darkcoin. Now, I think that's more than talking. If you guys want to help me raise funds for this marketing trip by donating some DRK, just check out http://bitcoinaa.com All DRK donations will be used to buy marketing materials such as shirts, hats, pens and flyers that will be pasted out all over the USA in spring of 2015. I am 100% serious about this marketing trip across the US and I want to also promote DRK but I need help from donations to help pay for DRK marketing materials and help with the traveling expenses. You can donate at http://bitcoinaa.com I will be posting tweets and blog posts during the entire trip. Just doing my part in the coin revolution You want people to donate to an idea? Make the idea real, off your own back. Post pictures of your success on the streets, make a youtube channel and post videos of you talking to people about darkcoin and bitcoin. If you posted pictures of you and another random person, smiling and holding up a darkcoin logo sticker, i would donate to you all day long. |
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What good is open source code when there are no OTHER qualified code devs taking the time to actually look at the code?
I believe there are many skilled devs / hackers looking at it. As the recent hacker demonstrated so well... Would be great if we had someone join the team (and holding DRK) instead of exploitative hackers who just want to see how much damage they can cause... I'm about 95% sure someone competent enough will come along very soon. |
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Everybody. Eduffield needs help. We can't continue having him as the one central guy who has to fix and update the code all the time. We need to attract more programmers, possibly even better more experienced programmers than eduffield himself. Therefor I was thinking about what a job announcement would look like if we wanted to attract more programmers who could work on the darkcoin-core (C++, Qt). What skills are we talking about here. 1) Well versed in C/C++ 2) Ability to understand and program in concurrency ways. 3) Understanding old and new principles of cryptography 4) Experience in multiclient network programming (this includes multiplayer games, etc...) what else is needed, or better yet, what would I (as an average programmer) need to learn to be able to help the darkcoin network get better? What would you add, evan? blah blah blah, I have no life and have no idea what I'm talking about
I'll bet you 1000 Darkcoin that you can't find an exploit that pays you like the one yesterday. On the following conditions: 1.) You must make money from exploiting the system to an address that you control. 2.) You must make more than 1000 Darkcoin from said exploit. 3.) We both put up 1000 DRK into escrow. 4.) You have two week to prove you made 1000 DRK from exploiting the system. Otherwise I win. Also, don't feed the trolls evan! Feed the hackers! Bump that + Python Developer !!!!Has Evan actually stated he wants more people involved in core development at this point? There should be a confirmation before we start asking around.  A short job description would be nice as well. We are looking for a C++ Developer to help with the QT Wallet and a Python Developer for Open Bazaar integration we are in touch with a couple of people but the more the better as nothing is confirmed. The idea is to outsource a couple of projects so Evan can concentrate on his development and does not have to deal with the other things around. Yes Evan is aware of this and agrees that it would be helpful to outsource ! Why Philosophy major right there! |
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Darkcoin is technologically and psychologically flawed. There is space next to a Bitcoin for a mainstream anonymous coin. However the only way such an anonymous coin can succeed is by making the libertarian argument, not the 'in the dark doing nefarious things such as terrorism, money laundering, child porn, drugs, murder' argument. The mainstream and media will come down very hard on an anonymous coin. How is Darkcoin supposed to win the libertarian argument when it is called Dark[Suspicious link removed]d luck with that on Capitol Hill. You'll need it.
In any case, it's technologically flawed. The point about an anonymous coin is that it's supposed to stop the NSA from spying on your economic activities. What is the point if it can't do that?
I know Darkcoin might give college doofuses (who get scared/excited by Dark things) a raging hard-on, but it has the credibility of a plastic toy when it comes to anonymity and survivability.
So no. I don't expect Darkcoin to have a big market cap, because the real users of hardcore anonymity (libertarians,terrorists, mafias) will be shifting their TRILLIONS in a coin that 1) works as intended, 2) triumphs the libertarian argument without sounding like incredible twats.
Kristov Atlas practically said Darkcoin is anonymous to the point of NSA, who would require alot of resources to do very little damage. Ip obfuscation to hide masternode ips is being worked on by Evan Duffield, which will happen and dramatically improve anonymity. Darkcoin's dev team always deliver on promises and tech (Masternodes,Spork,Darksend,Open Source). "Darkcoin" in reference to "darknet" "darkmarkets" just refers to the anonymity these networks provide. Remember its not the tech, its the people that use it. Not all darknet stuff is illegal or immoral(I know allot is). |
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Do we have a darkcoin poker site? Would be nice to have one, the wider adoption would start don`t you think?
I'd be very interested in building a darkcoin only poker site. I have seen open source poker platforms out there with bitcoin integration. With a few tweaks it could be edited for darkcoin. Where do i sign?! Like this: https://github.com/hippich/Bitcoin-Poker-Room ? Looks like it might use the standard bitcoin daemon, in which case a simple find and replace bitcoind/darkcoind and you're nearly there, but there's also a bunch of java backend voodoo here: https://darkcointalk.org/threads/call-for-devs-software-adoption.2195/ - flare has a working Electrum-DRK so I assume that's all good to go too. I know nothing about js though. I am terrible at poker but would love to play for DRK. Lot of legal crap to consider though? I'm not 100% sure, In the UK online poker is totally legal. Stakes are unlimited. If you pay the correct taxes and provide a way for customers to seek recourse, why not? Coins101 could prob help with this one. I remember reading on here that some 'big' holder of dark was a pro poker player? Maybe an already established site will implement drk, but the idea of anonymous poker is definitely worth looking into. Edit 1: Some info. Remote general betting (limited) This licence allows you to provide facilities for betting only by means of a telephone or by email (in circumstances where bets taken are manually processed by the licence holder) up to a maximum annual gross gambling yield of £550,000. If bets are automatically processed by gambling software, or where any other means of remote communication is used to provide facilities for betting, or if your annual gross gambling yield exceeds £550,000, a remote general betting (standard) operating licence will be required though you may not necessarily have remote gambling equipment based in Great Britain. From 1 November 2014, if you are providing facilities for remote gambling, or advertising to consumers in Britain, you will need a licence from the Gambling Commission. http://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/gambling_sectors/betting/getting_a_licence_what_you_ne/do_i_need_a_licence/what_operating_licences_do_i_n.aspx#GeneralbettingstandardEdit 2 : Remote general betting (standard) (remote platform) operating licence £1,594 |
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Do we have a darkcoin poker site? Would be nice to have one, the wider adoption would start don`t you think?
I'd be very interested in building a darkcoin only poker site. I have seen open source poker platforms out there with bitcoin integration. With a few tweaks it could be edited for darkcoin. Where do i sign?! |
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Wow, that PR package was worth it! |
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Paid RC5 @20% blocks - 64.85%
66,85% 67.57% and rising... 69.29% nice jump recently Can you post the link to this stats please |
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I'm trying to denominate a small amount of dark (180).
Could someone help me out and set there amount to anon to 180?
Ta!
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Why you guy are so scared ? Little price drop huh ? Lets talk price right now.
What are your predictions ?
Le me tellyou mine :
Two weeks after RC5 one DRK is going to cost 0.045 BTCand rising !
I don't see how RC5 is going to drive the price up. Unless some big holders stop dumping their coins the bearish trend will continue. RC5 will mean DarkSend+ is open source and then the marketing will commence... Or soon after that anyway... Nobody trust close source . RC5 and the open source is going to be the start of the race ! I'm thinking about opening the source at release of RC5. I've actually been having various close friends of mine look at the source and no one sees anything seriously wrong with it besides some organizational issues (which I'm working on now). I believe we're ready to go. So we are open source on Monday, aswell as enforcement right? Does it say that? Who's "we?" Got a turd in your pocket? I've never read that RC5 == Open Source == Enforcement. Only that they could happen in close temporal proximity. If I am incorrect, I welcome the pimp hand of fact-I-lack. I'm just trying to head off any FUDders that try to claim RC5 isn't as advertised if/when the false assertions/presumptions come to view. I also saw that Evan was testing enforcement out on test net... Am i fudding? I thought it was a legitimate question |
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