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221  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Pirate wants to settle with individuals for less. Don't let him do it. on: August 31, 2012, 06:50:15 PM
You could argue the accounts were automatically closed when he defaulted. If he pays 100% up until the default that would be hard to call Matthews bet lost.

Well you can argue anything doesn't mean it is logical.  Try this.  Call your bank up and tell them you want to close your mortgage.  You will pay it off eventually but since it is closed you want the interest reduced to zero.  

The idea that someone can borrow money at x% then not repay it upon demand and then choose to pay a different interest (or none) doesn't even pass the chuckle test.

Pirate has default and will never pay according to the terms of his contract.  Matt simply can not win the bet.  The only thing which is unknown is will he payout or not (I bet not).
I'm not sure which side to take here, but maybe this will help clarify the issue: Matthew offered his bet after Pirate had already defaulted. Only an additional, subsequent default can cause Matthew to lose his bet. If the loss of additional interest was part of the original default, it cannot cause Matthew to lose his bet unless Pirate agreed to pay it back as part of the terms Matthew bet Pirate would stick to.

Matthew offered his bet before pirate contractually defaulted. He continued taking bets after the contractual default despite already losing the bet. Check into it.

Each bet is its own bet.  Perhaps they share the same terms, but they were all entered into separately.
222  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: List of Lying deposit takers, and the reasons why on: August 31, 2012, 06:44:24 PM
May I propose we file this topic in trash now?
223  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: pirate payments list -- accounts paid: 22/459 on: August 31, 2012, 06:32:13 PM
Have we heard from any of the owners of any of the 22 accounts that have been paid out?

No. They are the ones that all live in Trendon's neighborhood, or near McKinney/Plano.

How do you always have the inside information?  Shill? Are you pirate? Give us the dirt man!
224  Economy / Services / Re: GPUMAX | The Bitcoin Mining Marketplace on: August 31, 2012, 05:53:48 PM
Current channel topic is:

"Payments for midnight 8/26 through midnight 8/27 sent at 12:16 PM on 8/31 (CST)"
225  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Putting your money where Pirate's mouth is. on: August 31, 2012, 05:33:26 PM
Already had a bad conciousness when i fucked my goat , stupid me, it felt so awesome Wink

Did it look like this?

226  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: pirate payments list -- accounts paid: 22/459 on: August 31, 2012, 04:42:18 PM
Pirate just offered me double my BTC to shut up about everything.

witnessed

Ooh, I didn't know we were doing this meme again.
227  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Bitcoin Wallet for Android on: August 31, 2012, 04:35:22 PM
I have the android wallet and I must say that I'm not very happy with it's performance. It works well, but when it starts to download the blocks, my whole device freezes up and I am unable to do anything for quite a while. I have an app watcher and it tells me the app will take 80-90% of a processor power for a while. I have a Samsung Galaxy S2...

Is your device mostly caught up with blocks or is it coming off a fresh start that its downloading the whole chain?
228  Other / Off-topic / Re: Matthew is renigging on his bet. He doesn't recognize Pirate's debt to Goat. on: August 31, 2012, 04:28:17 PM
There is no common law on the books that allows you to create liability for other people by using their products or otherwise.
Not true. See my post about intended third party beneficiaries. The PPT operator has no incentive to pursue Pirate, so equity requires the pass through account holders be able to hold Pirate liable for his default to the PPT operator. Pirate's obligation is to the operators, but most likely PPT holders can enforce it due to their standing as creditor beneficiaries.

aha, I knew someone had posted about it.  I just couldn't remember who.
229  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE] ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: August 31, 2012, 04:18:32 PM
so I decided to put some of my very limited budget in ASICMINER. It seems like a trustworthy company that can deliver and make good money in a long run. My question is if we will receive any more information about current development of this company as there hasn't been much on subject discussion about what's going on right now in the thread. I wonder if some of the bigger shareholders have some more information that they would be willing to share with the small investors.

The board members receive emails with updates.  I don't know how much they are allowed to disclose,.
230  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: pirate payments list -- accounts paid: 22/459 on: August 31, 2012, 04:15:54 PM
I'd ask if Cheney's even still alive, but it seems like every few years they put in a new heart battery and he's got another 5 years.

Fixed that for you.

Ah yes, you're right.
231  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: pirate payments list -- accounts paid: 22/459 on: August 31, 2012, 04:00:48 PM

I also heard hunting with Dick Cheney is fun.

But almost as risky as investing with Pirate.

Wait a sec..... So Pirate is actually Dick Cheney ? SOMEONE GET PHINN ON THIS !

I'd ask if Cheney's even still alive, but it seems like every few years they put in a new heart and he's got another 5 years.
232  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: pirate payments list -- accounts paid: 22/459 on: August 31, 2012, 03:04:13 PM


Well, I've been pissed off now for 14 days straight.... if I can't have a little fun now, what point is there in continuing Wink

There's always shooting fish that are swimming in a barrel.. that's always fun.

I also heard hunting with Dick Cheney is fun.
233  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: pirate payments list -- accounts paid: 22/459 on: August 31, 2012, 03:01:44 PM
Pirate just offered me double my BTC to shut up about everything.

Proof?

Good thing Theymos has that SQL query.  We can know right away.

I chose to re-invest it, to get the additional 1%/day interest though.
(please don't take me seriously)

Sir, if you can be sarcastic, so can the rest of us.  Its like festivus.

Turnabout is fair play, good sir Wink

NEVAR!
234  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: pirate payments list -- accounts paid: 22/459 on: August 31, 2012, 02:58:12 PM
Pirate just offered me double my BTC to shut up about everything.

Proof?

Good thing Theymos has that SQL query.  We can know right away.

I chose to re-invest it, to get the additional 1%/day interest though.
(please don't take me seriously)

Sir, if you can be sarcastic, so can the rest of us.  Its like festivus.
235  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: pirate payments list -- accounts paid: 22/459 on: August 31, 2012, 02:54:30 PM
Pirate just offered me double my BTC to shut up about everything.

Proof?

Good thing Theymos has that SQL query.  We can know right away.
236  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Pirate wants to settle with individuals for less. Don't let him do it. on: August 31, 2012, 05:41:38 AM
I think PPT operators should bear in mind that if they choose to negotiate with pirate on behalf of their investors, they'll probably be leaving themselves wide open to liability if the investors are not happy with the outcome or if they do not vigorously pursue any and all means possible to recover their investors' money, up to and including taking legal action against pirate.  I'd strongly suggest that the PPT operators seek legal advice regarding their own position should they advise their clients not to deal with pirate directly.

I don't think PPT operators are even considering such a thing. What we're seeing though is outright -blockage- of client information. Chaang Noi is refusing to allow his own clients to contact Pirate even if they -want- to. That's going to make calling my bet a bit difficult to say the least, if everyone got paid except Chaang Noi's clients due to his stubborness.   Undecided

Chaang Noi's clients are his - not Pirate's. Your bet surely requires that Chaang Noi (Pirate's client) is paid.  (?)  

Goat isn't a straight passthrough, he takes a commission.
237  Other / Off-topic / Re: Matthew is renigging on his bet. He doesn't recognize Pirate's debt to Goat. on: August 31, 2012, 05:37:47 AM
imsaguy, please explain.
This. Pirate's agreement with Goat only includes themselves. Nobody else.

Its basically 3rd party beneficiary.  The bond never limited this liability.  The whole reason goat setup the bond was so others could use it as a PPT.  It was setup to benefit someone else.
That's not mentioned in his agreement with Pirate when he setup the account.

The liability is not implied.

Ask Goat if he told Pirate what he was doing with HIS account. The agreement does not give Pirate a free-for-all.

No, goat actually created the liability when he started doing the PPT.
238  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Pirate wants to settle with individuals for less. Don't let him do it. on: August 31, 2012, 05:36:18 AM

Matthew was clearly being silly. He is trying to win his bet anyway he can  Roll Eyes   



239  Other / Off-topic / Re: Matthew is renigging on his bet. He doesn't recognize Pirate's debt to Goat. on: August 31, 2012, 05:33:15 AM
imsaguy, please explain.
This. Pirate's agreement with Goat only includes themselves. Nobody else.

Its basically 3rd party beneficiary.  The bond never limited this liability.  The whole reason goat setup the bond was so others could use it as a PPT.  It was setup to benefit someone else.
240  Other / Off-topic / Re: Matthew is renigging on his bet. He doesn't recognize Pirate's debt to Goat. on: August 31, 2012, 05:25:37 AM
Pirate's debt is to Goat and Goat only.

What Goat does outside the debt is irrelevant.

Good try, but no.
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