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1061  Economy / Goods / Re: [BTC] $1,183.20 Amazon Balance [BTC] [MINERS CAN BUY EQP!] on: May 31, 2012, 06:26:09 PM
How much of this is left?  I'll take the whole thing.  I've already got the wishlist made.  You just need to fullfill it.
1062  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Decline in listening hosts on: May 31, 2012, 06:20:56 PM

As a related side note...

At some point it will really not be very truthful to refer to Bitcoin as a 'p2p' solution.  It is on a trajectory which makes Bitcoin not much more 'peer to peer' than Visa, PayPal, etc (assuming they have some amount of clustering and redundancy.)

Of course even with the realization of Bitcoin as a 'necessary infrastructure backbone' architecture there will still be (hopefully) a lack of centralized control that we see in other solutions and that is a very good thing.  But it will be decidedly non-P2P so it might be worth thinking about how to shift various text and 'sales pitches' as the time approaches.  Or get beat up about false advertising, and legitimately so.



There's a distinction.  Anyone can run a bitcoin node of they want to, some are just opting to go the lightweight route.
1063  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A day in the life of a pirate. on: May 30, 2012, 11:30:27 PM

The myth of selling BTC to fools locally is laughable. Nobody is stupid to pay more for BTC than market rate I would believe.

I've done just that, might only have been a few thousand dollars worth, but a 10-20% premium was still worth having.

Did you find a fool, or someone using the coins for illicit means?

For many people actually buying BTC is a huge pain in the ass. If you were only buying a couple hundred dollars worth of BTC it might be worth your time to just pay someone $40 extra to get you the BTC, especially if it also saves you a few bucks in exchange fees.

Actually, I don't think they were a fool, and I tried to get them to use an exchange, pay real prices and basically stop bugging me.  It was just easier for them to send me funds and for me to send them coins.

Clearly you missed the part of this thread where we went off topic.  Catch up already!
1064  Economy / Services / Re: GPUMAX | The Bitcoin Mining Marketplace on: May 30, 2012, 11:29:33 PM
do they only pay out certain days of the week or something? been there three days now and no payout as of yet, and i have my address set up and all that.

They go out (most) everyday.  In #gpumax on freenode IRC, you can see when they went out.  you should email support@gpumax.com
1065  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A day in the life of a pirate. on: May 30, 2012, 11:24:52 PM
STOP talking with yourselves. Tongue

One sec let me switch to my other identity to respond.

ok, is this better?

Or how about this?

And you other bumb ditches think I make this shit up.

urmom.
1066  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A day in the life of a pirate. on: May 30, 2012, 11:20:41 PM
STOP talking with yourselves. Tongue

One sec let me switch to my other identity to respond.

ok, is this better?
1067  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A day in the life of a pirate. on: May 30, 2012, 11:11:14 PM
Reading posts like this makes me smile.  There're still smart people in this community and it's those people I've learned to surround myself with.

"Surround yourself with like-minded people who want to see you successful." - Robert Kiyosaki

Smiley

Or maybe you just like the feel of a nose placed firmly against your cheeks.

Pot, kettle, black.  Get gigavps in here and you guys can be a little choo-choo train with engine, coal car, and caboose.

Don't be jealous you got discarded like yesterday's deuce.
1068  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A day in the life of a pirate. on: May 30, 2012, 11:10:47 PM
Reading posts like this makes me smile.  There're still smart people in this community and it's those people I've learned to surround myself with.

"Surround yourself with like-minded people who want to see you successful." - Robert Kiyosaki

Smiley

Or maybe you just like the feel of a nose placed firmly against your cheeks.

LOL, if i wanted that.  I'd pay for it. Tongue

I thought pimps don't have to pay?
1069  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BitForce SC - full custom ASIC on: May 30, 2012, 11:08:49 PM
Communication breakdown...

From BFL? Never..
1070  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A day in the life of a pirate. on: May 30, 2012, 11:06:16 PM
Reading posts like this makes me smile.  There're still smart people in this community and it's those people I've learned to surround myself with.

"Surround yourself with like-minded people who want to see you successful." - Robert Kiyosaki

Smiley

Or maybe you just like the feel of a nose placed firmly against your cheeks.
1071  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: 7970 results with a kill-a-watt on: May 30, 2012, 11:05:08 PM
You have something wrong if your card is drawing 40 watts idle. They should be <15 watts idle with the screen on and they drop to <5 watts idle with the screen off.

That's with ULPS on. Multi-card miners can't run with ULPS on and still overclock the cards.

Yes you can... Just put a load on the cards when changing the clocks.

It doesn't matter what your idle usage is.. you're mining bitcoins.. the card shouldn't be idle.
1072  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: 7970 results with a kill-a-watt on: May 30, 2012, 12:32:53 PM
If you're measuring the card use, you're just concerned about the delta between load and idle, not the total usage.
The MH/watt numbers would be skewed if you're only measuring delta.

OP should test with no graphics card idle in order to establish a baseline.

If he's got two 7970s, he can measure the system idling with 1 card and 2 cards and that will tell him his idle use.  I didn't think the point of the thread was to measure the MW/watt for the system, only the card.
1073  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Decline in listening hosts on: May 30, 2012, 12:29:00 PM

I'm not trying to win any popularity contests here.  Obviously.

Trolling in my posts on this thread is actually fairly incidental.  I expect at most a handful of people to contemplate my conjectures.  Mostly I expect pom-pom wavers to do exactly as you'v done.

---

Rah! Rah! Rah!  Bitcoin is awesome and has no possibility of any defects whatsoever.  Keep stacking!

There.  Do you like me better now?



Actually no.  With fewer and fewer nodes using IRC for peer discovery, it becomes more and more difficult to track running nodes unless you're crawling them.  So basically, a bunch of improperly placed doom and gloom.
1074  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Decline in listening hosts on: May 30, 2012, 06:43:36 AM
blah blah blah

MasterTroll™
1075  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: 7970 results with a kill-a-watt on: May 30, 2012, 05:30:21 AM
Doesn't this ignore the power pulled from the slot? Do we just assume ATX spec is being pulled from the slot?

The best test is to measure the entire system at rest and at load.  That will tell you the true usage of the card.  The card will consume power when idle, but since the computer isn't going to idle, it isn't a concern.

will test entire system when I get my parts for a low power MB+CPU combo and see how it affects the numbers

You don't have to have a lower power MB/CPU.  If you're measuring the card use, you're just concerned about the delta between load and idle, not the total usage.
1076  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: 7970 results with a kill-a-watt on: May 30, 2012, 05:26:49 AM
Doesn't this ignore the power pulled from the slot? Do we just assume ATX spec is being pulled from the slot?

The best test is to measure the entire system at rest and at load.  That will tell you the true usage of the card.  The card will consume power when idle, but since the computer isn't going to idle, it isn't a concern.
1077  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: WTS 32GB SSD SATA Hard drives $29.99 Perfect for Mining rigs! on: May 30, 2012, 05:13:55 AM
warranty or anything?  I get that they are used, but a 30 or 90 day to make sure they're legit would be nice.
1078  Economy / Services / Re: GPUMAX | The Bitcoin Mining Marketplace on: May 30, 2012, 04:59:36 AM
I wonder how much I could get for selling my GPUmax account... Grin

GPUMax emails cannot be changed, which would pose a problem.
1079  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: List of Bitcoin Companies with Adequate Backup--Please Submit on: May 30, 2012, 04:58:50 AM
This is a waste of time.  You're asking owners for a statement saying their stuff is adequately backed up and that's how they get on the list?  No verification or auditing, just that they think their procedures are adequate.  Similar to how people thought it was adequate to go with cheap hosting on vps providers to hold thousands of btc only to have it stolen right out from under them?
1080  Economy / Services / Re: GPUMAX | The Bitcoin Mining Marketplace on: May 30, 2012, 04:53:55 AM
So does anybody know the approx wait time to get in? (And Sub'd)

There are hundreds of people on the wait list.  There's no way to approximate the wait time, but if you just signed up for the wait list, I can assure you it'll be a long time before you get invited.

How do you know?

Well, I'm pretty sure, unless zux0r was lying when he said:
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[6:14 PM] <zux0r> we have hundreds on the list that have been waiting
Also:
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[10:19 PM] <zux0r> nushor[A], sorry, there are hundreds of people ahead of you

Do I sense attitude?
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