I read Risto said that the similar ROI btc had in 2011 would mean XMR to go to 5000 usd.

This guy who is shorting Monero make me rich. 
A lot of interest collected already to my endless pockets.

If you look at btc markets, you feel inclined to deposit btc when you see the daily rate is 1.0 %. Once your coins appear, behold the market rate is around 0.4-0.5 %..
For XMR I aim to get at least the daily inflation rate which is sligthly below 0.1 % per day.. Some loans I have managed to get almost 0.13 % although. The higher rate, the longer term I can go.

I can confirm, that there are short sellers now in the markets. All my Moneros available for lending are been taken, and I am not giving out loans at minimum rates.
Quite largish short position now so there is not that much downside IMO.

I am not completely aware of all the possibilities XMR enables but for me personally it is a store of value. If I invest for instance 25 % of each rental cheque (after taxes and other fees) into XMR, it means XMR is partially backed by appartments in Finland.
And perhaps later in US if I decide to start a real estate investing company in US. I have some contacts there already.

I am saying 5 million marketcap for XMR is nothing.
100 million marketcap neither is nothing. No currency has such a low market cap. I am not familiar with Krona of Iceland but I guess the marketcap of even that small currency based on fishing industry is more than 1 billion usd.

I think it is hard to figure out how many people are invested in XMR.
Try to buy XMR worth of 5000 usd and look at price chart what happens. Probably you are making a candle.
I am saying, 5 million marketcap is a marketcap that is supported when there is very little interest in XMR. That has been a solid rock bottom and personally I consider it a low probability event to go there anymore (unless btc will crash big time), that would need XMR should drop to 0.001-0.0012 levels and below when new coins are mined.
Of course I might be wrong here but I am playing with probabilities, and if you think the current marketcap is too high for XMR in the long run, then by all means, sell or even go to short position. I can lend you some Moneros if you need. 

You guys will be much better off buying XMR in my opinion.
Obviously I want to congratulate all of those people who have purchased ETH last year, now it is better to diversify into XMR. Just make a good plan (like sell 5 % of your eth on daily basis to buy xmr). The supply of Monero starts to be pretty dry these days so the price will be pretty high.

Some of Etherium community are already buying Moneros with their profits.

Okay, my bad. 

Yes, I think XMR is definetely larger in 2 years than it is now. However, I am aiming world dominance and that might take more than 2 years because sometimes people are slow in their decisions. It took me 1-2 years to buy my first silver round after I heard the silver related propaganda of Risto.

I can do some market making but I am not thinking of doing it now when XMR is still so tiny.
When 1 xmr is like 1000 usd I might do it with smaller scale (like 10 000-20 000 usd). When XMR grows to bigger size (like 1000 000 usd/XMR) I will find marketmaking more useful. These levels even smaller guys can do it, all you need is a tiny bit of money and a lot of time. Money I have enough but I do not find it profitable enough timewise when the volumes are low and XMR is moving like a beast. After all, we are still in accumulation zone and the accumulators tend to eat the stack of market maker.

For me Monero is a store of value over longer periods (like Chinese Panda coins). Despite they are officially money (however, nominal value much lower than the metal value).
I think there will be merchants who accept XMR as a method of payment (I believe there are also a few merchants that understand the value of PMs and accept gold and silver as a method of payment at some exchange rate).
I do not need everybody in the world accepting XMR, for me it is cool if there are 1-2 reputable dealers of PM, perhaps opportunities to purchase some other assets that increases my networth. Consuming is not a big thing and I usually do not buy my cup of coffee because it becomes a big amount of money in one year (5 euros a day, 365 days a year => 1825 euros a year or 2000 usd).

I love speculation, therefore, here is my speculation: in 2036 Shit has hit on people's fan badly enough that they have searched alternative methods to store money aside of fiat system. PM are nice but only in smaller quantities. I think Risto is aware of what kind of stack of silver it is to hold 1 million euros in silver. Even for the case of gold, it is pretty heavy brick to carry around (for instance, if you need to escape the war from country a to country b you probably want to carry as little stuff with you as possible).

Currently even physical banknotes of USD are 1.38 trillion (source: http://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/currency_12773.htm )
And that is only a small fraction of the overall money supply, but let's say for arguments sake a conservative number: XMR has achieved 1.38 trillion (or 1 380 000 000 000 000 000 usd - trillion is 10^18).
20 000 000 XMR in circulation (most of them are stored in cold storages so this is also not realistic but a very conservative estimation), therefore the value of 1 XMR is 69 billion usd. If 90 % of XMR remains in cold storages and only 10 % of XMR are in circulation, the value of each XMR in this case is 690 billion (10^9).

Personally I think it is prudent to diversify into Monero. The prospects of Monero are now looking better than ever before.
I am not recommending to take a mortgage to buy XMR but some nice diversification of assets is probably a good thing to do.
To be honest, I do not like btc at all... It is not stable and probably the price will not significiantly rise (I can be wrong though).
Monero can be used as a store of value over decades, and that will bring value to the network. When people start putting their savings (or a part of their savings) into Monero it will climb up.

I wonder when the wars will break out for XMR? 

Etherium folks seem to be reasonable, as far as I am aware, they are buying Monero also... This is what I read from trollbox.

Dumpers tend to be early and when the price really starts rising is when the dumpers are done their selling. Therefore many coins have suffered from hardships to go beyond the ATH. There are more air when we establish XMR over ATH price as the weak hands have been shaken before it.
With current volumes of 1000-3000 btc a day with 0 weak hands the price of XMR theoretically could be 0.10-0.20 BTC/XMR.
That's with current emission. The emission is getting lower quite fast still... By the end of this year it is already quite tight.

BTW, 40-50 % of the shorts I was offering has been closed during past few hrs at loss (they were taken around 0.002).

How many new coins are created per day.

My spouse comes from a large family and from home she has used to not to get everything.
That's actually helping us to grow the wealth as well... I think she spends outside of necessities like 100 euros/mo which is reasonable. Personally I use almost nothing (sometimes go out but very rarely).
We both are investing in real estate and we are about to pre-close one deal from Helsinki area which will be rented for short-term leases with higher ROI. Of course it employs a little bit as the appartment needs cleaning max 1-2 times a week.

The bottom line: XMR project is about to start getting wind under her wings and it will basically fly us to the moon.
For me the use of XMR is a store of value and for that purpose the marketcap need to be driven so high that one person cannot move the price of the coin to any direction.
Now it is time to start to fund the marketcap and slowly add more Moneros to your portfolio.

If you are like me, considering XMR as a store of value, I would not put any limits how many XMR I want at max (minimum limits I've put). The reason: I am not willing to put the upside limit of how much money I want to own (XMR is money).
My exit strategy is buying stuff with XMR and probably replace those XMR whenever I have funds to do so.

That's the real use of XMR for me. Obviously everybody need to figure out themselves what they want from it. Some people might want anon transactions, some people might need to transfer funds overseas fast but anon way or some people want XMR to be their safe haven and the ultimate money which they can give as inheritance to children.

The problem is, I have no clue how high it ends but definetely a lot higher.
Arguments:

Summer 2014 the price stabilized to 0.004 (btc was around 400-600, correct me if I am wrong) into form of a triangle.
Summer 2014 the emission was a lot higher and there were pretty much nothing done to develope the product.
Now we are living in 2016, XMR approaching her second anniversary of the coin, had near death experience (case Bitcoinexpress), an epic dump last spring. I guess someone has posted the video link also, code has been fixed and a lot of yet undone development have been funded (so the money will not be the issue here to get XMR rock'n'nrolling - especially as the price increases, the bounties are getting more and more delicious).

I guess the real destination of XMR is to get the marketcap in trillions of USD. I think it will take decade to achieve it without the help of investors. It will be less if we get some VC-money flowing into XMR (like 100+ millions of usd type of funding).