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3461  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Concerns about the fluctuation, even dramatic, of the price of Bitcoin... on: September 07, 2011, 12:16:35 AM
then if you're so "real" why don't you put your money where your mouth is.  i'll bet you 100 BTC to be held in escrow that the USD price per BTC will be higher one year from now than it is today.  you're a douche so i don't expect you to take the bet.
You should do it in USD, else it’s an asymmetric bet where he wouldn’t really gain anything if he was right (as he is extremely bearish).
3462  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I know you guys wanted this on: September 06, 2011, 08:15:59 PM
Is there a "PayPal economy" or "Credit card economy" too? Haven’t heard of that yet.

Bitcoin is not a currency, it’s a payment method/USD proxy. Noone receives wages in Bitcoin. Noone produces the most basic goods for Bitcoins. There’s no cycle.
3463  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I know you guys wanted this on: September 06, 2011, 08:11:01 PM
the bitcoin economy
what
3464  Economy / Speculation / Re: EVERYONE CALM DOWN on: September 06, 2011, 07:46:33 PM
Prices have stabilized, and have not changed since I wrote this
Cheesy
3465  Economy / Speculation / Re: The Log Chart Myth on: September 06, 2011, 06:56:12 PM
I don't see why everyone has their panties in a wad.
Because there is a lot at stake.

Will the log chartists please stand up? Show me evidence this is a normal correction and not an exceptionally deep and long one!
3466  Economy / Speculation / The Log Chart Myth on: September 06, 2011, 06:46:15 PM
Does this really like like a healthy, historically normal correction to you?

3467  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Who else sold out? on: September 06, 2011, 06:25:21 PM
lrn2 store of value vs. currency.

Regardless of what bullshit is being spread here, Bitcoin is not a currency, it’s a payment method or USD proxy at best. Noone is being paid Bitcoins as wage. Noone accepts it for basic goods.

Store of value on a long-term scale it possibly is, depends mainly on the integrity of the core system and if it will indeed remain the dominant chain.
3468  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Who else sold out? on: September 06, 2011, 06:21:26 PM
But I ask you this:  How is Bitcoin anymore important than the GDP of ENTIRE FUCKING NATIONS who's currency is denominated much lower than 1 USD?
lrn2 market cap, the units differ in scarcity.
3469  Economy / Speculation / Re: Actually btc is going down because... on: September 06, 2011, 06:12:57 PM
We are all still sitting here, and so are the big guys with large fortunes of BTC. How can all of that money just disappear?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAKsMnAM8vk
3470  Economy / Speculation / Re: When it bottoms out at 5 or 6, will it go back up or will it just hover? on: September 06, 2011, 05:20:11 PM
buy if it goes down to 5.   we saw this happen about a month ago where it went down to about 5 for a day or two then rallied back up to ~12 over the following few weeks.
Ok, then it will happen again I guess.  Cheesy
3471  Economy / Speculation / Re: Here we go again, bitcoin exchange rates have been doing just fine on: September 06, 2011, 01:27:46 AM
There is no reason to sell right now unless you absolutely need the money.  Its hurting the market value, lowering the prices, and mining does not even pay for itself at this point.
Damn. Sorry for hurting the market value and lowering the price. Sad I’ll ask your permission before I sell next time.

PS: It’s always profitable for someone to mine, or else everyone would stop. There’s also the difficulty adjustment to regulate this.
3472  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why BTC is losing value. on: September 06, 2011, 12:54:37 AM
One thing I wanted to add: All this stuff about generating media interest, getting more people to join and invest etc. makes Bitcoin sound like a pyramid scheme to me.

If Bitcoin is found convenient and useful, people will come on their own. Currently it’s not very convenient or useful for most.
3473  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why BTC is losing value. on: September 06, 2011, 12:41:11 AM
We need to get more coins out to more people
Why do we need to do that? To ensure the position of the bitcoin wealthy?

I’d say we need to polish the Bitcoin client, infrastructure, everything, before we try to attract new people.
3474  Economy / Speculation / Re: Major buying opportunity? on: September 05, 2011, 07:16:42 PM
So you only like risk in hindsight, when the outcome was good...
No, I like good risk/reward ratios, and I thought it was good at 1.00-0.5, so I bought at the time, but right now it sucks imo.
3475  Economy / Speculation / Re: Major buying opportunity? on: September 05, 2011, 07:15:53 PM
Looks like buyers are in their starting positions, it hasnt looked this good in a long time. We might se a rally.
Yes, the depth has always worked as a good indicator recently when it was 2:1 for the buying side, and yet Bitcoin declined from 10$.
3476  Economy / Speculation / Re: bitcoin bear commentary, what happens if bitcoin breaks $8? on: September 05, 2011, 07:01:50 PM
And what will you do if the wall disappears or is moved further down?

I wouldn’t use the depth to make any trading decisions except very short term ones, really.
3477  Economy / Speculation / Re: Major buying opportunity? on: September 05, 2011, 06:59:42 PM
Think this media hype is going to happen again? Haha. Grin

Also, the same price has been reached only recently in May 2011. This is not "low".

PS: The people I would refer to as "early adopters" actually mined their batches of coins with a CPU.
3478  Economy / Speculation / Re: bitcoin bear commentary, what happens if bitcoin breaks $8? on: September 05, 2011, 06:50:16 PM
Yup, the question is now: what happens if bitcoin breaks $6.58 and $5?  Next up, discussing $3, $1 and $.10.   The next 8 weeks might prove to be interesting.
What’s special about 6.58 though?
3479  Economy / Speculation / Re: RALLY! on: September 05, 2011, 05:41:06 PM
This trollface is hilarious.
3480  Economy / Speculation / Re: Here we go again, bitcoin exchange rates have been doing just fine on: September 05, 2011, 10:56:09 AM
If you want to make bad news look good: A) use a log graph, B) include completely irrelevant data in your graph, such as last year's bitcoin price which 99% of bitcoiners have never experienced and can never experience.  Sure, if I bought bitcoins at $0.05 I would still be saying that bitcoins today are fantastic and the price is brilliant.  But the vast majority of bitcoin users do not.
Haha, yeah. I completely agree, this is the sort of thing governments would do to manipulate the public.

Log chart for 0.05-1$, seriously? Get in touch with reality and have a look at the volume in USD. Then see how many people bought at 20-30 for their first time.

Also, the downtrend from 32 has been longer than any other in history (where it always exceeded the former high in just 2 months), and much sharper. From 32 to 5.74 it’s a 82% regression, and we are currently 76% down. So no, it’s apparently not a historically normal correction.

Your kind has brought up the same thing when Bitcoin declined from 30 to 20, leading many people to hold on to their losing investment. So I say GTFO with your "objective" data of when Bitcoin was something noone has ever heard of.
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