How do you guys usually do the short? Just cut it out of the ribbon and then connect them with a wire?
You see the picture in the OP ? This red thing is a wire, Use a solid core cat5 braid and insert in behind the pin of either the extender or the slot itself. How do I keep it from making contact with the other nearby pins? Look at it a little longer, Every pin are isolated in their own little compartment, stick the wire in there. (On the motherboard side, not gpu)  |
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How do you guys usually do the short? Just cut it out of the ribbon and then connect them with a wire?
You see the picture in the OP ? This red thing is a wire, Use a solid core cat5 braid and insert in behind the pin of either the extender or the slot itself. |
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Yes, bitcoind memory usage seems to grow fairly steadily at the moment. I haven't seen that— a node with 8 connections appears pretty stable at about 300MB res, nodes with many in-bounds use about a gig— which is the roughly the same as it was 6 months ago. Are you sure the people here aren't just running out of address space on 32 bit systems? Maybe someone can report on memory usage for a node with 100+ nodes, 32bit ? I don't know, the OS is 64bit. |
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I just requested a refund for my purchase through PayPal. Immediately after the dispute was filed I received an email with a refund confirmation from BFL. Interesting that they have it setup to automatically respond to a dispute that way.
However, they charged an "adjustment fee" of $13.28USD so I've got another message in to get that fixed. We'll see how that goes.
Note that the PayPal dispute I filed was for item not received. I did ask in the message for a refund, but I wonder if they're just refunding all the disputes or scanning the messages for the word refund. Would be odd to think they have a person actually reading them that fast and taking the proper action (as it's a Sunday afternoon here in Missouri).
I want to trust that they'll follow through, but I can't keep waiting.
Cool story bro. Unless your order was for 12 minirig the fact that they had the money to refund you is meaningless. Anyway it was most likely locked in their PayPal account. |
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I'm supprised by the ressource required.
Fixing this exessive ram usage could mean a lot more seeding node and much faster blockchain download.
One of the most expensive part of VPS is ram, (beside the 500gb+ in monthly upload I can live with)
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{
"version" : 80100,
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"blocks" : 227829,
"connections" : 49,
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"errors" : "EXCEPTION: St9bad_alloc \nstd::bad_alloc \nbitcoin in ProcessMessages() \n"
}I've been told this meant it was low on memory. This is a on dedicated bitcoind node on a ubuntu VPS with 1024mb and 2048 brustable ram. I usually reach 950mb ram when at about 36 connections. Since all I want it to do is seed the blockchain as much as it can, should I lower the connection number to 36 even if it sometime goes to 56 without any apparent issue other than that error message. |
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Being "supposedly" this close to a definitive benchmark, I would almost expect hourly updates.
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I like cavirtex but the whole Havelock Investments thing scares me into thinking they'll get shut down one day for unregulated securities trading and possible ponzi. Canada laws as shitty as the US now.
Cavirtex has done his legal homework, Havelock look well made and secure, But anyway, I wouldn't take a GLBSE-Nefario fuckup as reference for an exchange getting shut down. |
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Some of those options don't make any sense, specifically "BFL didn't needed any of the money from pre-orders BUT sold 100% of BTC at maket value."
BFL doesn't accepts BTC directly. You can pay in BTC, but it goes thru BitPay, which takes the BTC and gives BFL cash. BFL never even touches the BTC, so they have zero influence on the market, price, anything. They are a business, and you can't pay a foundry or employees salaries in BTC.
That said, there's a big difference between "We didn't use pre-order money for development/manufacturing" and "We havn't touched the pre-order money for any reason". The development/manufacturing may have already been pre-paid, but they're still a company with upwards of 22 employees that require salaries and a brand new office that requires rent to be paid. I'm guessing operating costs have come out of the pre-order money, but that's to be expected, and isn't wrong in any way.
It's well known BitPay allow to merchant to get either BTC or USB from payments. I think it's wrong in that given ASIC high initial production costs, the cost for a large vs small batch is relatively the same and if they didn't have had this much early pre-order money they would not have been able to sell cheap chips in the future and recoup their initial investment. The problem is that they may not even have to recoup their initial investment ,,, it's the early customers who paid most of it and them who will never see a ROI. Now that their initial costs are behind them, It's in BFL best financial interest to sell as many chips as they possibly can,,, even if it mean lowering margins. It's also in bitcoin network's best interest to have as much hashing power as possible. Even when Josh say, "we won't drop the price" ... When a competitor come out of the dark with a much cheaper hashing product in his hand, BFL will have no other choice that to cut prices. And fuck their customers once more. I knew from day one that this business model would not protect the customers investment even if the company become a big money maker. I wish I could find to my old post that said: BFL should offer a lifetime guarantee of performance for $. That would mean, for example, That a 1.5ths device paid 30 000$ would entitle the owner to a huge discount for a future v2.0 unit producing 2Ths for 15 000$, ... a very similar outcome to the trades of FPGAs for ASICs. |
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Not buying any of this until people have some idea what it's worth, looks like it went on the market and immediately started dropping.
It's up to you to figure out what it's worth, ~550 000 $ in revenue per year based on zero growth. And ~80% of this is profit. BTW the price dropped from 0.4 to 0.395 because the shares are priced at 30$ |
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Some very promising stuff comming from CaVirtex As shown in Page 8 : https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=VTXVirtEx plans to allow customers to short the Bitcoin and launch a new fund on Havelock
Investments (HAVELOCK), the VirtEx Shorting Fund (VTXSF). Just like the stock market, when
any short position is initiated a loan takes place and interest is charged on that loan. The
interest collected from short positions on VirtEx will be equally distributed to shareholders
of VTXSF and paid daily. VTXSF will pay up to 12% per year interest while guaranteeing the
initial Bitcoin investment. As of now, VirtEx would be the only exchange in the world paying
interest on Bitcoin deposits.
VTXSF will be created for the following reasons:
Bitcoin Speculation: VirtEx does not take a speculative position on Bitcoin and so
customers interested in holding their Bitcoin may want to invest in the fund and earn
interest while taking a speculative position.
Marketing: Once the word spreads that VirtEx is offering a Bitcoin interest paying fund
that is 100% secured by an exchange many more customers and investors will take
notice (IPO got released today) |
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Wow! this thing is selling like hot cake.
~3000 left
S,Dice IPO look like a joke beside this.
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My point being that if you think that what you are seeing today is momentum, then you have pretty low expectations. I would think that the real momentum will come when we have about 10.000.000 active users and about 5% of the online stores accepts BTC as payment. Those being numbers pulled from my lovely behind.
To be realist I hope real momentum come only after we've stopped expecting anything from BFL and we laugh thinking about the early days of ASICs mining. I find the current hash-rate to valuation ratio to be unsafe. |
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I think the survey answer could have gone up to 1m$
You'd have had less "never"
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I guess this pool question is based it's on the assumption that the price will tell us when something bad happened to bitcoin fundamentals.
Even a successful 51% attack won't make it drop to 20$
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I don't really agree. I would say that we are at the stage where the second follower is just thinking about joining but haven't yet done so.
I wish I could agree, but it's hard to see 100 000+ peoples as less than two people. |
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My review, this guide isn't worth 2BTCs. It could make you some money but it instructs you to do some shady stuff, including running a shady program. There is some code included for wordpress sites, that could make you some money. So I don't think it is a scam, but it isn't a great rich quick scheme. I personally wouldn't spend more than .5 BTC and that is me being nice.
Simple question : What make it so that it doesn't scale ? |
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