Electronics, decorative use, industrial application, etc.

Bitcoin? Umm.....

The bitcoin central market for Euro move rather slow, though.  

Maybe you could ask noagendamarket for 200 BTC on the condition that it will be paid back once you buy enough bitcoin?

http://www.bitcoinservice.co.uk/files/76 0.10

The texture of the wall and the ceiling are rather bland, I admit.

Are you close enough to get all the bitcoin you needed to launch the site?

Real name? We don't know.

Some think he's a Westerner of some kind, not a Japanese person.

Corporations ARE creature of the state. So they're made that "way". Doesn't mean it will operate the same for a bitcoin corporations or future corporations.

We want cheap method of exploration and colonization not corporation hogging on charities. If the charity needs to do so, one of their mission will be to create more cost-effective way of exploring space.

Otherwise corporations will be left to their own device in making it cost effective for us to explore and colonize space.

Not really. It was just a hypothetical question.

There are several programs that might be useful:

1. Figure out low-cost method of clearing space junks in LEO. If possible, this can be spinned off as a company ala Mozilla Corporation. The money it make from clearing LEO could be used to fund other space exploration & colonization projects.

2. Figure out how to build a self-replicating autonomous space station. This could paves the way for self-maintaining space colony.

3. Mass-produced space probes. Let face it, scientific missions should be made cheap.

No, that's absolutely a bunch of bull, as disproved by at least 100,000 members in the Planetary Society.

Some of us think space is important and we choose to say so with our money.

This is about a charity operated space agency, not let secretly funnel money to some corporations charity.

And for the record, the research are meant to benefit humanity, not Keep the Benefit Away From EVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVIL Corporation motive.

Yes, let coerce individuals at gunpoint to spend money on medical research projects for the GOOD of humanity. That sound nice doesn't it.

But of course, all those things ARE UNSEEN. We don't know what kind of technology might emerge if the US doesn't "invent" the internet, which by the way, required entrepreneurs to make the internet USEFUL.


With all due respect, they spend their OWN MONEY. You might hate me for spending my money on manga, good science fiction shows, and so on. But so what? All I am arguing is that the space program needs some modicum of funding. This is not about some nebulous "researching Uranus" that have little impact on our lives.

This is about knowledge, the fate of humanity as a whole, and the ability to control our own destiny.

Asteroid impact resulting in extinction level event is a very low probability but it doesn't mean it won't happen. There WILL BE smaller asteroid that will cause devastating damage to cities. It may happen once in a century. It may happen once in a thousand years. But there will be TONS of lives lost ESPECIALLY if it hit a city.



No, stop wasting money on government! Stop voting! And stop believing that you're not in control of your own government, because technically YOU ARE.

You can vote. You can throw out elected officials. You believe in this fairy tale called Democracy Make Good Government(TM).

FOR THE LOVE OF ERIS, we already have those charities. But they aren't doing a damn thing about political instabilities and corruption. If they did, than the whole of Africa would be rising out of poverty within a generation.

(Actually they kinda are, with the advent of cheap smartphone and new technologies)

The resource spent on establishing market societies is much different than the resources spent on space exploration.

Market societies don't need resources as so much as ideas. They certainty don't need engineers as much as badass commandos dedicated to enforcing the rule of law. Those engineers would be better spent on space exploration & colonization or some other technical concerns. You're not going to throw astronomers and physicists at problems outside of their expertise do you?

Beside, once a market society takes off, like in Signapore and South Korea, EVERYTHING will change within one generation. Poverty problem solved. Of course, it's not actually that easy.

In any case, this thread is about funding space exploration project VOLUNTARY. Not through taxes and theft, but through genuine donation from the heart. We're trying to find extraterrestial life, research options for long-term survival of humanity, and so on.

These projects are very long-term but they're also very important. At least some kind of funding goes into it, no?

That's not intrinsic value, that's monetary value. Very different thing.

Research, for what they are, have an unknown ROI value. We don't know if they will bring us the cure for cancer, or help us save the entire specie from asteroid annihilation. Space exploration involves an innumerable amount of technology that it would be hard to imagine that they would have no wide application for life on earth. So in conclusion, space exploration will probably benefit humanity in many indirect ways...

Still, asteroid annihilation is still a very real threat. It might happens now, or a thousand years from now. At the very least, we should prepare for that kind of possibility.

(Beside, if we can mine those asteroid, earth would be like filthy rich since the price of many commodity will drop to the floor)

Just do Khan Academy.

And stop thinking of p2p as a solution to every problem.

The primary problem with starving humans is that a lot of culture can't support a market society, or that there is some kind of wars going on, and so forth. We could potentially turn the great Sahara desert into a blooming breadbasket for the rest of humanity if those African society got their act together(or we stop actively harming them with our well intentioned aid)

The ocean is also vastly unused. We might be able to support a bigger population if we can utilize that.

Now, overpopulation isn't so much of a worry anymore. Humans seem to be voluntary having less humans as they get wealthier.

Money is not the problem, but rather how medicine is organized. Here are some of the problems:

1. Insurance should NOT be used for daily health care! It should only be used in EMERGENCY!  You should be able to pay out of your own pocket. Insurance is supposed to incentivize preventive medicine, but it's doesn't! Insurance is broken.

2. Medical guild. Enough said.

3. Regulations that impose high cost on medicine, innovation, etc.

4. Patents. Get rid of them.

5. Proven reform ignored. The fraking checklist? Where are the checklist in intensive care units? Where are my heart surgery factory?

All these factors contribute to poor incentive, inefficiency, and lives LOST. Remember folks, there's alway be scarce resources. These things need to be take care of by the market if you want to MAXIMIZE life saving.

Overpopulation is NOT A PROBLEM. The earth can potentially support trillion more human beings. Energy IS the problem. We need to be more efficient in our use of energy and as well find plentiful energy source. This is so that we can convert all those potential energy into something that can support the human race. Remember, the earth receive more energy from the sun in one hour than our entire civilization use in one year!

Medicine cannot be solved by mere throwing money at problem. It just need to be organized as an efficient enterprise. That mean, medicine should be mass-produced and as well become more effective over time. Imagine hundred of heart surgeon performing hundred of operation each day! You get more quality and quantity at the same time. Imagine all the hospitals in the world employing the little simple thing called CHECKLISTS.

Space travel IS a research program. And with all research program, we don't shit how we're going to benefit from it. The ROI however, could be astronomically huge. Beside, if you're interested in the survival of our species, it can only be a good thing.

Nuclear fusion reaction?

Bitcoin's law: If a discussion grow longer, the probability of an argument on what exactly bitcoin is increases. Is it money, currency, commodity, or something else entirely?